Poll: 2nd best QB in the NFCN

[TheGreenMan]

Must be in the minority here, but I chose Goff.

[BF004]

Must be in the minority here, but I chose Goff.

Quite possible he is my 5th option.

[APB]

Must be in the minority here, but I chose Goff.

Quite possible he is my 5th option.

He may be my fourth as I strongly suspect he'll either lose the camp battle or be benched mid-season in favor of TBLS. I still place both above Dalton.

[Pugger]

Didn't realize how bad Dalton's career stats really were.

Worse than 2/1 TD/INT -ratio. 87.5 career QB rating with just one >100 QB rating season and one other >90 QB rating. LOL Trub's career rating is 87.2, just .3 worse than Dalton's. Foles' is .4 worse, with much better peak seasons... Now I can see how Bears' fans were talking about paying two identical mediocre QBs.

Cousins over 10 QB rating points better than Dalton over his career. Goff 4 points higher. AR on another planet.

Off course Dalton played for the bungles all those years.

[Raptorman]

If Cousins hadn't just been paid 35 million, I think everyone would say him. He's a victim of his insane contract creating a negative public perception. He's an above average QB who's biggest challenge is his inconsistency. Some games he looks like a great QB and then he'll look like he didn't show up for film study the next 2 weeks.

So yeah, he's 2nd best but I don't think he's capable of bringing his team to the Super Bowl unless the Vikes have a historic good defense.

Do you mean like Rodgers?

[salmar80]

Kirk Cousins' 2022 salary became fully guaranteed today. Just 45M.

#totallyworthit

Essentially means Vikings need to extend him before next season begins. Or trade him and have the new team do the extension.

[Raptorman]

Kirk Cousins' 2022 salary became fully guaranteed today. Just 45M.

#totallyworthit

Essentially means Vikings need to extend him before next season begins. Or trade him and have the new team do the extension.

Actually, it's $35 million with $10 already paid for a $45 cap hit.

[RingoCStarrQB]

I picked Jordan Love based on the fact that he's the only NFCN QB that can't lose to the Packers in 2021.

Oh by the way ............ this Andy Dalton move by Duh Bears is incredibly hilarious. I know Free Agency isn't over yet ........ but bear down while the gettin's good ........... really really good. What are they nuts?

GO PACK GO!!

[Acrobat]

If Cousins hadn't just been paid 35 million, I think everyone would say him. He's a victim of his insane contract creating a negative public perception. He's an above average QB who's biggest challenge is his inconsistency. Some games he looks like a great QB and then he'll look like he didn't show up for film study the next 2 weeks.

So yeah, he's 2nd best but I don't think he's capable of bringing his team to the Super Bowl unless the Vikes have a historic good defense.

Do you mean like Rodgers?

No.

[NCF]

If Cousins hadn't just been paid 35 million, I think everyone would say him. He's a victim of his insane contract creating a negative public perception. He's an above average QB who's biggest challenge is his inconsistency. Some games he looks like a great QB and then he'll look like he didn't show up for film study the next 2 weeks.

So yeah, he's 2nd best but I don't think he's capable of bringing his team to the Super Bowl unless the Vikes have a historic good defense.

Do you mean like Rodgers?

Fair point, but I don't think even you believe it. I think everyone understands full well that Rodgers is more than capable of getting another Super Bowl. Just doesn't have history on his side to back that up. He will, though.

[Raptorman]

If Cousins hadn't just been paid 35 million, I think everyone would say him. He's a victim of his insane contract creating a negative public perception. He's an above average QB who's biggest challenge is his inconsistency. Some games he looks like a great QB and then he'll look like he didn't show up for film study the next 2 weeks.

So yeah, he's 2nd best but I don't think he's capable of bringing his team to the Super Bowl unless the Vikes have a historic good defense.

Do you mean like Rodgers?

Fair point, but I don't think even you believe it. I think everyone understands full well that Rodgers is more than capable of getting another Super Bowl. Just doesn't have history on his side to back that up. He will, though.

Every Championship the Packers have, their defense was ranked in the top 4 for PPG. Every single one.

[go pak go]

Do you mean like Rodgers?

Fair point, but I don't think even you believe it. I think everyone understands full well that Rodgers is more than capable of getting another Super Bowl. Just doesn't have history on his side to back that up. He will, though.

Every Championship the Packers have, their defense was ranked in the top 4 for PPG. Every single one.

Most teams outside of the Chiefs in 2019 have a top 5 to top 7 defense as a requirement to win it all.

I think APB's point is historic defense which is something completely different than being a top 5 defense in a league during a year.

[Raptorman]

Fair point, but I don't think even you believe it. I think everyone understands full well that Rodgers is more than capable of getting another Super Bowl. Just doesn't have history on his side to back that up. He will, though.

Every Championship the Packers have, their defense was ranked in the top 4 for PPG. Every single one.

Most teams outside of the Chiefs in 2019 have a top 5 to top 7 defense as a requirement to win it all.

I think APB's point is historic defense which is something completely different than being a top 5 defense in a league during a year.

Every one of Brady's SB victories except one, he had a top 10 defense. The one he didn't have a top 10 defense, they were 11th. 87 out of 110 Super Bowl teams have had a top 10 defense. Of the 23 that didn't, 9 won and 14 lost. So, it's a pretty big part of the game.

[go pak go]

Every Championship the Packers have, their defense was ranked in the top 4 for PPG. Every single one.

Most teams outside of the Chiefs in 2019 have a top 5 to top 7 defense as a requirement to win it all.

I think APB's point is historic defense which is something completely different than being a top 5 defense in a league during a year.

Every one of Brady's SB victories except one, he had a top 10 defense. The one he didn't have a top 10 defense, they were 11th. 87 out of 110 Super Bowl teams have had a top 10 defense. Of the 23 that didn't, 9 won and 14 lost. So, it's a pretty big part of the game.

Nobody will dispute that.

Again. APB said Historic Defense. A top 5 or top 10 defense in the league during a given year is not historic.

Historic is 2002 Bucs. 1985 Bears. 2012 and 2000 Ravens. 2015 Broncos. 2013 Seahawks. Defenses where it doesn't matter who is QB or on the offense...the team will be really hard to beat.

The Packers defense last year was "top 10" but I don't think anyone is clamoring it was an amazing defense because Top 10 is just slightly better than average.

[RingoCStarrQB]

Do you mean like Rodgers?

Fair point, but I don't think even you believe it. I think everyone understands full well that Rodgers is more than capable of getting another Super Bowl. Just doesn't have history on his side to back that up. He will, though.

Every Championship the Packers have, their defense was ranked in the top 4 for PPG. Every single one.

The 1996 Packers defense only gave up 19 TDs in the regular season.