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I like how we just keep penciling in Patrick Surtain.
A trade, with whoever, that would make most sense for both parties, would be for us to defer maybe a year on picks, can get more and higher ones, and the team trading for Aaron doesn't make themselves worse in his first year or two.
I mean sure I'd love Surtain, him and Stokes and Jaire could develop into something sick for sure, but also guaranteed to be a lot 1st rounds snaps on the bench there as well. And frankly the Broncos would likely really want to keep him if they think they have a shot of competing this year or next.
I'd just take firsts in 2023-2025. That team likely to crash and burn as Aaron gets closer to retiring, take our time and give yourselves a chance to build something special around Love, and even keep a steady flow of a high quality picks in even after he is off his rookie contract.
But all that said, I'll take Aaron back 10 time out of 10 this year, and if he legit wants to play for us, I'd give him a no trade clause, more guaranteed if he wants, perhaps at a bit of a sacrifice of some money. And whatever will be with Love will be, keep a high potential backup, or best case scenario, trade him for an arm and a leg if he impresses big.
Yeah Surtain has never made sense. If you get Surtain your probably letting go of Alexander. You aren’t gonna pay Alexander, Surtain, and Stokes in the future. If they’re all good players at CB they’re gonna make 10 million and beyond. Alexander is staring down a possible 20 million dollar deal.
It gives us a great starting 3 CBs but I would think you want something long term in mind.
Rodgers just came off an MVP year, plays in a QB friendly system, and should have a great running game for years to come behind him...i have no doubts he can play out the remainder of his deal while playing at a VERY high level. It’s not a concern to me.
It's why I want Rodgers to stop this stupid war and come back. The 2021 Packers is a SB team if Rodgers plays.
Yeah Surtain has never made sense. If you get Surtain your probably letting go of Alexander. You aren’t gonna pay Alexander, Surtain, and Stokes in the future. If they’re all good players at CB they’re gonna make 10 million and beyond. Alexander is staring down a possible 20 million dollar deal.
It gives us a great starting 3 CBs but I would think you want something long term in mind.
Nah, you keep Alexander on a big contract, have 4 years of Stokes and Surtain, maybe pay one of them later, maybe not. Maybe go in on a 5th year option and then trade him after 4 years. But years 2-4 of those rookie deals with Alexander on the other side gets pretty dope.
But also, it just makes sense to ask for recent 1st round picks instead of future 1st round picks IF you're going to do a trade this offseason, which you shouldn't. But if you do, you gotta get players on cheap rookie contracts, not picks that will help the team in 2-3 years. Surtain was meh as a trade fit for me, but he was a high pick. He fits a need, but one we've already tried to fill. Juedy on the other hand....
Personally, I think I'd rather have Ruggs and Moerhig just because Moehrig could play some star right away and grow into a versatile safety when Amos' contract is up. But that D. Carr contract won't move easily and they won't want to move it easily.
Also, don't trade this offseason. Ship sailed in my book.
I like how we just keep penciling in Patrick Surtain.
A trade, with whoever, that would make most sense for both parties, would be for us to defer maybe a year on picks, can get more and higher ones, and the team trading for Aaron doesn't make themselves worse in his first year or two.
I mean sure I'd love Surtain, him and Stokes and Jaire could develop into something sick for sure, but also guaranteed to be a lot 1st rounds snaps on the bench there as well. And frankly the Broncos would likely really want to keep him if they think they have a shot of competing this year or next.
I'd just take firsts in 2023-2025. That team likely to crash and burn as Aaron gets closer to retiring, take our time and give yourselves a chance to build something special around Love, and even keep a steady flow of a high quality picks in even after he is off his rookie contract.
But all that said, I'll take Aaron back 10 time out of 10 this year, and if he legit wants to play for us, I'd give him a no trade clause, more guaranteed if he wants, perhaps at a bit of a sacrifice of some money. And whatever will be with Love will be, keep a high potential backup, or best case scenario, trade him for an arm and a leg if he impresses big.
Yeah, you'd think one could get amazing compensation for the MVP at any time, including any player, but it's not quite so. The period after the draft would be the worst possible time to be selling an MVP.
Any team trading for AR would be doing it for a short term push. They'd be idiots to ship anyone who is instrumental for that push, even a 2021 rookie. A boatload of picks and maybe a replaceable vet or two would be the most likely compensation. Less if it seems the team would have to cut him. And if you were to trade AR now, he'd likely lift that team out of top pick territory.
An ideal trade partner (in 2022 off-season trade) would be a team that has quality on the roster except at QB, and that maybe had a bad injury luck season leading to a high pick. Oh, let's make it two such teams, so that there's a bidding war. And both teams with GMs and/or coaches on the hot seat. And who need to sell tickets pronto.
Will there be such a scenario?
Do I hope we don't even have to talk about it when 2022 arrives? Absolutely.
That's the thing, though... it depends on what you think of rookies, right?
If you trade Rodgers for picks in 2023 and 2024, those picks won't make the team tangibly better likely until 2025. You're now looking halfway into Jordan Love's second contract. It makes no sense.
On the Packers' end, they need a better young core around Love to sustain offensive success with a lesser QB. They need it faster than deferred draft picks.
And a team trying to make a short term push for/with Rodgers should be willing to give up a 2021 draft picked player because that 2021 draft pick is unlikely to make THEIR team tangibly better THIS year with Rodgers.
That's the glory of holding his rights for 3 years, though. We don't NEED to make a trade. We can demand the deal. It's not the highest bidder. It's the required price to do business.