Andy knows how to treat a stud QBBF004 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2020 13:56Rumors of the Chiefs trading up for Ruggs.
First reaction, yikes.
After thinking about it, let them double down on the speed at one position and waste several valuable picks not restocking other areas of their team with currently no cap space and a QB on a rookie contract about to get 40 million per.
Just a matter of time where you will start losing talent on the OL and D due to lack of money and picks when the piper comes a piping.
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We did that too, we had a historically good offense, 2nd rounder in Nelson, Jennings, Murphy, Cobb, 3rd rounders in Finley and Jones. We had a crap D. Can't win without a D, won't blame Ted for trying, just couldn't pick the right guys.Yoop wrote: ↑21 Apr 2020 15:55Andy knows how to treat a stud QBBF004 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2020 13:56Rumors of the Chiefs trading up for Ruggs.
First reaction, yikes.
After thinking about it, let them double down on the speed at one position and waste several valuable picks not restocking other areas of their team with currently no cap space and a QB on a rookie contract about to get 40 million per.
Just a matter of time where you will start losing talent on the OL and D due to lack of money and picks when the piper comes a piping.
We won the Super Bowl with a top 5 D. Tom Brady has NEVER won a Super Bowl without a top 5 defense.
I find it really curious that 2 of the cornerstones of the Patriots' offensive juggernaut are now gone practically signalling the end of an era. You have to wonder what is going on in Foxborough. It was different when Favre left because we had somebody in the wings to replace him with. NE is going to have to scramble and try to move up to get one of the top QBs in the draft this weekend.salmar80 wrote: ↑21 Apr 2020 15:46PFT telling Gronk said he'd only return to play with the Bucs and Brady:TheGreenMan wrote: ↑21 Apr 2020 15:34Have we seen anything that indicates that Gronk is coming back? Or is Tampa just trading for the rights? I haven't seen anything, but I have to imagine Tampa wouldn't do this unless they knew for certain.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... with-bucs/
BTW, imagine being the Bucs and having the gall to demand a 7th rounder to go with Gronk... That's a GM who'll never say "keep the change" (or one fond of subtle middle fingers).
Man, on paper the Buc's roster looks pretty impressive.
Brady, Gronk, Howard, Brate, Godwin, and Evans on offense. Barrett, Pierre-Paul, Suh, and Vea up front on defense. A capable Bruce Arians as HC.
Lot of big albeit aging names mixed with some young talent. It'll be interesting to see if there is enough in the tank for them to collectively make a run.
Brady, Gronk, Howard, Brate, Godwin, and Evans on offense. Barrett, Pierre-Paul, Suh, and Vea up front on defense. A capable Bruce Arians as HC.
Lot of big albeit aging names mixed with some young talent. It'll be interesting to see if there is enough in the tank for them to collectively make a run.
4-12. Watch them crash and burn.APB wrote: ↑22 Apr 2020 07:40Man, on paper the Buc's roster looks pretty impressive.
Brady, Gronk, Howard, Brate, Godwin, and Evans on offense. Barrett, Pierre-Paul, Suh, and Vea up front on defense. A capable Bruce Arians as HC.
Lot of big albeit aging names mixed with some young talent. It'll be interesting to see if there is enough in the tank for them to collectively make a run.
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Just happened to check out Howard's numbers, again, and was reminded that at 6'6", he somehow managed a vertical jump of only 30".
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uhh I dont get the ONLY part, 78" + 30" = 108 " add another 30 plus and the tip of his fingers are over 12 foot, that still a very big catch radius
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That and the Buccaneers' season will have some GREAT storylines.Pugger wrote: ↑21 Apr 2020 22:23I find it really curious that 2 of the cornerstones of the Patriots' offensive juggernaut are now gone practically signalling the end of an era. You have to wonder what is going on in Foxborough. It was different when Favre left because we had somebody in the wings to replace him with. NE is going to have to scramble and try to move up to get one of the top QBs in the draft this weekend.
Belichick has plenty enough job security to do whatever he wants from totally tanking it to actually trying to make it work with Stidham, a draft pick, or a after draft QB signing. This season will be so different from before, that the fan base should be excited with anything new after years and years of "boring" expected success with TB12.
His other "burst" numbers seem more in line with the athlete many thought he was/is. I wonder if his vertical measure is more a result of bad technique or random poor test outlier?
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Height 6' 6" 87
Weight 251 lbs 39
Arm Length 33¾" 77
Hand Size 10" 59
40 Yard Dash 4.51s 96
Vertical Jump 30" 18
Broad Jump 121" 84
3-Cone Drill 6.85s 92
20 Yard Shuttle 4.16s 89
60 Yard Shuttle 11.46s 94
Bench Press 22 reps 66
thanks, when ya compare 30" is about 3 under average, I still don't think it really says much, Kelce, Witten, a few others are only 32" and there pretty good, sometimes I think the numbers can be mis leading.NCF wrote: ↑22 Apr 2020 09:36https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/oj-howard
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Trey Burton signed with the Colts and I am sad. Would have been a really nice fit for us.
Yeah, I was really high on him when he was with the Eagles. I'm not quite as high on him anymore but would have still liked to have him on our roster.YoHoChecko wrote: ↑23 Apr 2020 11:34Trey Burton signed with the Colts and I am sad. Would have been a really nice fit for us.
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Trent Williams is being traded to the 49ers. 5th this year, 3rd next year.
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Bit late, but it looks like a technique issue to be.APB wrote: ↑22 Apr 2020 11:40His other "burst" numbers seem more in line with the athlete many thought he was/is. I wonder if his vertical measure is more a result of bad technique or random poor test outlier?
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Measurable Measurement %tile Height 6' 6" 87 Weight 251 lbs 39 Arm Length 33¾" 77 Hand Size 10" 59 40 Yard Dash 4.51s 96 Vertical Jump 30" 18 Broad Jump 121" 84 3-Cone Drill 6.85s 92 20 Yard Shuttle 4.16s 89 60 Yard Shuttle 11.46s 94 Bench Press 22 reps 66
The broad jump and vertical jump largely measure the same thing, leg explosion. The broad jump is a 45 degree vertical jump and uses a bit more posterior strength (deadlift) than quad strength (squat). But there is logically and actually a very strong relationship between them; a 10' broad jump typically coresponds to a 35" vertical. Outliers at either tend to point to technique issues moreso than anything.
Tho its said that white dudes can't jump and its not atypical for white guys to have a worse vertical than their broad jump would suggest.
There is also a S&C program element, some programs produce crappy jumpers for some reason (poor explosion training possibly? dunno). LSU was a classic example back when I paid a lot of attention to the draft in the mid-00's.
The 10 yd split is also typically closely correlated with vertical and broad. Its another measure of the same thing albeit with different technique.