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So just like Aaron Jones. Ugh, it's gonna SUCK without him isn't it?
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Yup, you can't overpay everybody.

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2022 cap situation probably having a huge impact on negotiations.
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Pckfn23 wrote:
24 Jul 2021 11:11
2022 cap situation probably having a huge impact on negotiations.
If Rodgers stays a Packer, Adams likely wants to be a Packer more, but the Packers can afford him significantly less.

If Rodgers doesn't stay a Packer, Adams likely doesn't want to be a Packer more, but the Packers can likely actually find a way to afford him.
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could we get some moderation in here to get rid of conspiracy theory's, some in here are trying to have a adult conversation.
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go pak go wrote:
24 Jul 2021 11:35
Pckfn23 wrote:
24 Jul 2021 11:11
2022 cap situation probably having a huge impact on negotiations.
If Rodgers stays a Packer, Adams likely wants to be a Packer more, but the Packers can afford him significantly less.

If Rodgers doesn't stay a Packer, Adams likely doesn't want to be a Packer more, but the Packers can likely actually find a way to afford him.
Exactly, pretty much why I have said it will be nearly impossible to keep both.
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Half Empty wrote:
24 Jul 2021 10:24
Yup, you can't overpay everybody.
over paid?????? Rodgers compared to other higher paid QB's is underpaid now, and Adams deserves a huge raise.

I can't fathom the money athletes get now days either, but just look at the money they create so owners can afford other talented players.

perfect compensation is a % of profits, and profit sharing should not exclude those that produce those profits, so it's pretty hard to say they are over paid when owners own small islands, small country's, 200 foot yachts, you get the point huh :idn:

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go pak go wrote:
24 Jul 2021 11:35
Pckfn23 wrote:
24 Jul 2021 11:11
2022 cap situation probably having a huge impact on negotiations.
If Rodgers stays a Packer, Adams likely wants to be a Packer more, but the Packers can afford him significantly less.

If Rodgers doesn't stay a Packer, Adams likely doesn't want to be a Packer more, but the Packers can likely actually find a way to afford him.
these doinkers should draft a WR and QB every draft :rotf:

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Yoop wrote:
24 Jul 2021 11:54
Half Empty wrote:
24 Jul 2021 10:24
Yup, you can't overpay everybody.
over paid?????? Rodgers compared to other higher paid QB's is underpaid now, and Adams deserves a huge raise.

I can't fathom the money athletes get now days either, but just look at the money they create so owners can afford other talented players.

perfect compensation is a % of profits, and profit sharing should not exclude those that produce those profits, so it's pretty hard to say they are over paid when owners own small islands, small country's, 200 foot yachts, you get the point huh :idn:
Sorry, I thought (as it now stands) that there is a finite amount of money available to pay all the team members, something about a salary cap. If the team can throw as much as it wants at anyone they choose, then, certainly, pay AR, Adams, whoever much larger chunks.

I even thought that the cap had something to do with profits, and that a % of that went to those producing entertainment.

So then, yes, give those two all they want.

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Yoop wrote:
24 Jul 2021 11:54
Half Empty wrote:
24 Jul 2021 10:24
Yup, you can't overpay everybody.
over paid?????? Rodgers compared to other higher paid QB's is underpaid now, and Adams deserves a huge raise.
Rodgers has the 2nd highest cap hit in 2021 of all players in the NF at $37.5 Million

Meanwhile, the two SB QB's have the following 2021 cap hit:

Tom Brady = $10.5 million
Pat Mahomes = $7.5 million

And the AFC Championship team QB

Josh Allen = $6.9 million

And "yes" I understand this is cap hit and not money paid out, but for 2021 and 2022, Rodgers cap hit is plenty large and does impact our near-term decisions.

But I would say at this point, the only QB who is really clearly overpaid compared to Rodgers is Matt Ryan.
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Yoop wrote:
24 Jul 2021 11:56
go pak go wrote:
24 Jul 2021 11:35
Pckfn23 wrote:
24 Jul 2021 11:11
2022 cap situation probably having a huge impact on negotiations.
If Rodgers stays a Packer, Adams likely wants to be a Packer more, but the Packers can afford him significantly less.

If Rodgers doesn't stay a Packer, Adams likely doesn't want to be a Packer more, but the Packers can likely actually find a way to afford him.
these doinkers should draft a WR and QB every draft :rotf:
The last two years they have. ;)
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go pak go wrote:
24 Jul 2021 12:15
Yoop wrote:
24 Jul 2021 11:56
go pak go wrote:
24 Jul 2021 11:35


If Rodgers stays a Packer, Adams likely wants to be a Packer more, but the Packers can afford him significantly less.

If Rodgers doesn't stay a Packer, Adams likely doesn't want to be a Packer more, but the Packers can likely actually find a way to afford him.
these doinkers should draft a WR and QB every draft :rotf:
The last two years they have. ;)
long over due, ya can never have enough of the pitchers and catchers :lol:

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It should have been expected that we won’t be able to keep adams for his third contract in GB. The problem is the team has operated as if it will resign him by drafting only a third round WR in the last several years.
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Oh no, the problem is that the team is $31 million over the cap already! No fake drama, real world (NFL) money issues.
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What these issues point out is that the Packers front office is showing themselves to be rather incompetent in certain areas. Though it seems a great deal of it gets back to poor communication with players. The FO seems unable to be upfront in communicating with the players. As time goes on, I find myself feeling less confident in the current FO. I am also beginning to feel more and more like changes need to be made in this area.

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Half Empty wrote:
24 Jul 2021 12:08
Yoop wrote:
24 Jul 2021 11:54
Half Empty wrote:
24 Jul 2021 10:24
Yup, you can't overpay everybody.
over paid?????? Rodgers compared to other higher paid QB's is underpaid now, and Adams deserves a huge raise.

I can't fathom the money athletes get now days either, but just look at the money they create so owners can afford other talented players.

perfect compensation is a % of profits, and profit sharing should not exclude those that produce those profits, so it's pretty hard to say they are over paid when owners own small islands, small country's, 200 foot yachts, you get the point huh :idn:
Sorry, I thought (as it now stands) that there is a finite amount of money available to pay all the team members, something about a salary cap. If the team can throw as much as it wants at anyone they choose, then, certainly, pay AR, Adams, whoever much larger chunks.

I even thought that the cap had something to do with profits, and that a % of that went to those producing entertainment.

So then, yes, give those two all they want.
I took issue with them being over paid, and actually they aren't, it's just that we have to many second contract players making top dollar, and the covid season robbing profits to pay everyone, we'll be able to keep the team intact this year, but next year we'll have to trim the roster.

as to who gives us the best chance to win going forward, obviously the list starts with Rodgers, the most expensive player.

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Yoop wrote:
25 Jul 2021 08:33
Half Empty wrote:
24 Jul 2021 12:08
Yoop wrote:
24 Jul 2021 11:54


over paid?????? Rodgers compared to other higher paid QB's is underpaid now, and Adams deserves a huge raise.

I can't fathom the money athletes get now days either, but just look at the money they create so owners can afford other talented players.

perfect compensation is a % of profits, and profit sharing should not exclude those that produce those profits, so it's pretty hard to say they are over paid when owners own small islands, small country's, 200 foot yachts, you get the point huh :idn:
Sorry, I thought (as it now stands) that there is a finite amount of money available to pay all the team members, something about a salary cap. If the team can throw as much as it wants at anyone they choose, then, certainly, pay AR, Adams, whoever much larger chunks.

I even thought that the cap had something to do with profits, and that a % of that went to those producing entertainment.

So then, yes, give those two all they want.
I took issue with them being over paid, and actually they aren't, it's just that we have to many second contract players making top dollar, and the covid season robbing profits to pay everyone, we'll be able to keep the team intact this year, but next year we'll have to trim the roster.

as to who gives us the best chance to win going forward, obviously the list starts with Rodgers, the most expensive player.
I think I'm beginning to see why we almost never agree - the bold explains WHY they're overpaid, not whether or not they ARE.

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Half Empty wrote:
25 Jul 2021 10:39
Yoop wrote:
25 Jul 2021 08:33
Half Empty wrote:
24 Jul 2021 12:08


Sorry, I thought (as it now stands) that there is a finite amount of money available to pay all the team members, something about a salary cap. If the team can throw as much as it wants at anyone they choose, then, certainly, pay AR, Adams, whoever much larger chunks.

I even thought that the cap had something to do with profits, and that a % of that went to those producing entertainment.

So then, yes, give those two all they want.
I took issue with them being over paid, and actually they aren't, it's just that we have to many second contract players making top dollar, and the covid season robbing profits to pay everyone, we'll be able to keep the team intact this year, but next year we'll have to trim the roster.

as to who gives us the best chance to win going forward, obviously the list starts with Rodgers, the most expensive player.
I think I'm beginning to see why we almost never agree - the bold explains WHY they're overpaid, not whether or not they ARE.
NO IT DOESANT, and the reason we fail to agree is exactly this, most all of our 2nd contract players are NOT over paid, they make about average for there talent level compared to other vets around the league :thwap:

you used the term over payed, and shouldn't have, you seem to hate the players cause they make more then a highly educated person such as yourself, but thats neither here or there, obviously according to you and most people athletes are over paid, but according to revenue THEY produce your wrong.

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Good grief, Davante sounds like Rodgers, too.

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YoHoChecko wrote:
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Good grief, Davante sounds like Rodgers, too.
Yep. I'm #1, pay me like it. Conversation over.
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Just said very clearly that he wants to be the highest paid receiver.

I bet he's looking at Hopkins' $27M/year 2-year deal, rather than the Julio $22M/year that is the next-highest.

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