Packers @ Saints GDT - 9/12/2021 3:25 CST
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When have you ever known the Packers medical and training staff to not be overly cautious with player status?
If they say he's checked all the blocks, you better believe he's checked all the blocks.
I don't know about that. Payton has been known to conceal known injury status but for something to pop up late in the week? That typically isn't part of the injury status shenanigans teams play.
I mean there are a lot of examples of people getting rushed back too early.
Casey Heyward. Clay Matthews and his hamstrings. Davante Adams and his ankle. Just to name a few. But the Packers absolutely have a history of putting players back too soon and we see the dreaded "re-injury" the following Tuesday.
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This is gonna be like the Cowboys game a couple years ago when Z goes down injured after every few plays and he's some mix of not 100% due to a lingering injury and some mix of screwing with the opposing team's timing and momentum and we, as fans, just have to deal with the nerves and anxiety of seeing him laying on the ground after the play 4 times a half.
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really, how was hayward rushed back to soon, and how can anyone know if a hammy is healed or not, I doubt Z will be allowed to play if there is any doubt about his back being ready for full on contact, the staff does there best to be right on this stuff, but your talking about injury's that are very hard to diagnose perfectly.go pak go wrote: ↑12 Sep 2021 09:59I mean there are a lot of examples of people getting rushed back too early.
Casey Heyward. Clay Matthews and his hamstrings. Davante Adams and his ankle. Just to name a few. But the Packers absolutely have a history of putting players back too soon and we see the dreaded "re-injury" the following Tuesday.
Well he injures his hamstring in training camp. He returns week 7. Re-injures it and misses the rest of the season. Obviously he was "cleared" but there are many who have stated in interviews that the Packers likely rushed Casey back too soon on the hamstring.Yoop wrote: ↑12 Sep 2021 10:12really, how was hayward rushed back to soon, and how can anyone know if a hammy is healed or not,go pak go wrote: ↑12 Sep 2021 09:59I mean there are a lot of examples of people getting rushed back too early.
Casey Heyward. Clay Matthews and his hamstrings. Davante Adams and his ankle. Just to name a few. But the Packers absolutely have a history of putting players back too soon and we see the dreaded "re-injury" the following Tuesday.
That was during the dreaded hamstring era of the Packers.
And absolutely agree that these things are very hard diagnose. The human body is. Which is my point. Just because the Packers have a "conservative" medical staff doesn't mean there isn't a possibility of re-injury. We have a history of players re-injuring themselves and effectively ending their season.Just before the 2013 season, however, Hayward injured his hamstring during a workout. He probably was returned to the lineup too soon, promptly re-injured himself and ended up playing in only three games on the year.
I rest my case, it's near impossible to tell the degree or intensity of a hamstring strain unless it's a tear that requires surgery, it's so easy to pull a hamstring and most recuperate in a matter of days as Mathews usually did.go pak go wrote: ↑12 Sep 2021 10:26Well he injures his hamstring in training camp. He returns week 7. Re-injures it and misses the rest of the season. Obviously he was "cleared" but there are many who have stated in interviews that the Packers likely rushed Casey back too soon on the hamstring.Yoop wrote: ↑12 Sep 2021 10:12really, how was hayward rushed back to soon, and how can anyone know if a hammy is healed or not,go pak go wrote: ↑12 Sep 2021 09:59
I mean there are a lot of examples of people getting rushed back too early.
Casey Heyward. Clay Matthews and his hamstrings. Davante Adams and his ankle. Just to name a few. But the Packers absolutely have a history of putting players back too soon and we see the dreaded "re-injury" the following Tuesday.
That was during the dreaded hamstring era of the Packers.
And absolutely agree that these things are very hard diagnose. The human body is. Which is my point. Just because the Packers have a "conservative" medical staff doesn't mean there isn't a possibility of re-injury. We have a history of players re-injuring themselves and effectively ending their season.Just before the 2013 season, however, Hayward injured his hamstring during a workout. He probably was returned to the lineup too soon, promptly re-injured himself and ended up playing in only three games on the year.
and we have no more history then any other team of players reinjuring themselves after a injury, do you just make this crap up as you go along?
and just because some blow heart journalist says we brought casy back to soon, rushed him back in your words, why would I or anyone believe him over what we have come to know as a very conservative staff when it comes to injury's, that doesn't even make sense, Journalist say anything, and mostly extreme comments you accused me of, they do that so you'll read there stupid opinions.
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Maybe he can do it strategically to give some reprieve from the heat and kill any Saints momentum.YoHoChecko wrote: ↑12 Sep 2021 10:05This is gonna be like the Cowboys game a couple years ago when Z goes down injured after every few plays and he's some mix of not 100% due to a lingering injury and some mix of screwing with the opposing team's timing and momentum and we, as fans, just have to deal with the nerves and anxiety of seeing him laying on the ground after the play 4 times a half.
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Same. Could have all been avoided.
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Stay on point.Yoop wrote: ↑12 Sep 2021 11:00I rest my case, it's near impossible to tell the degree or intensity of a hamstring strain unless it's a tear that requires surgery, it's so easy to pull a hamstring and most recuperate in a matter of days as Mathews usually did.go pak go wrote: ↑12 Sep 2021 10:26Well he injures his hamstring in training camp. He returns week 7. Re-injures it and misses the rest of the season. Obviously he was "cleared" but there are many who have stated in interviews that the Packers likely rushed Casey back too soon on the hamstring.
That was during the dreaded hamstring era of the Packers.
And absolutely agree that these things are very hard diagnose. The human body is. Which is my point. Just because the Packers have a "conservative" medical staff doesn't mean there isn't a possibility of re-injury. We have a history of players re-injuring themselves and effectively ending their season.Just before the 2013 season, however, Hayward injured his hamstring during a workout. He probably was returned to the lineup too soon, promptly re-injured himself and ended up playing in only three games on the year.
and we have no more history then any other team of players reinjuring themselves after a injury, do you just make this crap up as you go along?
and just because some blow heart journalist says we brought casy back to soon, rushed him back in your words, why would I or anyone believe him over what we have come to know as a very conservative staff when it comes to injury's, that doesn't even make sense, Journalist say anything, and mostly extreme comments you accused me of, they do that so you'll read there stupid opinions.
This is not the point of the conversation I was having with APB. I have nothing further to add to this tangent conversation.