Packers @ Bengals GDT - 12:00 NOON GAME!!

[Half Empty]

Can’t remember who but someone said when Bradley snaps the ball he pushes it forward first and he believes it’s tipping off the snap.

Yeah, they talked about the hitch in the snap AND something Bojo was doing that were both tips. Hitches apparently are something that develop fairly commonly for long snappers and need to be removed when they pop up... according to the interview. I dunno if that's actually true, or if only true with low quality snappers.

Or, maybe use that to their advantage - i.e., let him hitch, tell our team to hold, and let them 'time' it with an offsides. Akin to AR's hard count?

[go pak go]

Honestly I feel like with teams being as aggressive as they are on our FG's....take an attempt at some point this season and do a fake. As long as we can somehow get Bojo in enough space, in theory he can get that ball to Tonyan who would be WIDE OPEN for a TD.

That would stop teams from doing this insane run on the edge sh*t they are doing.

The risk is the edge guys would get too close to the punter too fast though to get a pass off. Honestly maybe even doing a direct snap to Mason to create some distance.

[YoHoChecko]

So MLF clarified that bomb before the first half with no pass rush. It's about what I thought he was saying.

The defenders heard a check from the Bengals that is used in the PACKERS' offense. But the defenders thought they had been clued off to an audible and knew the play that had been called and were wrong. MLF said it, verbatim, "they guessed wrong." I'm not sure what play they thought it was that would cause them not to rush the passer, but I'm guessing some sort of screen pass, where they slowed the rush and backed off.

Anyway, that's why we had to cover for what MLF said "seemed like ten seconds" and that's why we gave up a TD. Honestly a pretty dumb mistake. Not sure why anyone would assume that a check would have the same verbiage for the Bengals as it does for the Packers, aside from Taylor and MLF both at one point being OCs for the Rams under McVey.

UPDATE:

Ok so I just watched the play. First, it was 8-9 seconds from snap to release. So yeah, truly unacceptable.

Second, yep, Gary was lined up to the defense's right and follows the RB as he released out to the defense's left. Preston Smith also dropped into that range, as well as watching an underneath middle route.

To be fair to the D, honestly, both of those plays might have been the primary read; taking them away cause Burrow to look around and find Chase crossing deeeep (started on the top of the screen, caught the ball at the bottom.

[YoHoChecko]

To be fair to the D, honestly, both of those plays might have been the primary read; taking them away cause Burrow to look around and find Chase crossing deeeep (started on the top of the screen, caught the ball at the bottom.

Ok, nevermind. Gary never should have dropped across the field, but Preston slowing the rush to check the back running right by him initially made some sense, but he also abandoned that because there was a CB in the flat to cover. Gary was basically putting himself in no man's land while Campbell had the middle of the field covered.

Just a dumb play by Gary; he needed to keep rushing.

[go pak go]

To be fair to the D, honestly, both of those plays might have been the primary read; taking them away cause Burrow to look around and find Chase crossing deeeep (started on the top of the screen, caught the ball at the bottom.

Ok, nevermind. Gary never should have dropped across the field, but Preston slowing the rush to check the back running right by him initially made some sense, but he also abandoned that because there was a CB in the flat to cover. Gary was basically putting himself in no man's land while Campbell had the middle of the field covered.

Just a dumb play by Gary; he needed to keep rushing.

Fortunately these learning moments are a lot easier to swallow during a victory.

[German_Panzer]

Fortunately these learning moments are a lot easier to swallow during a victory.

But for the team and in the long run a defeat might have been better since you do not learn as strong from victory as you learn from defeat. But water under the bridge now. We are 4-1, hunting for a Bye-weekend. Let‘s be like the dude that jumps out of a skyscraper and thinks at every floor he passes: „so far, so good“.

[APB]

Fortunately these learning moments are a lot easier to swallow during a victory.

But for the team and in the long run a defeat might have been better since you do not learn as strong from victory as you learn from defeat. But water under the bridge now. We are 4-1, hunting for a Bye-weekend. Let‘s be like the dude that jumps out of a skyscraper and thinks at every floor he passes: „so far, so good“.

[lupedafiasco]

Fortunately these learning moments are a lot easier to swallow during a victory.

But for the team and in the long run a defeat might have been better since you do not learn as strong from victory as you learn from defeat. But water under the bridge now. We are 4-1, hunting for a Bye-weekend. Let‘s be like the dude that jumps out of a skyscraper and thinks at every floor he passes: „so far, so good“.

There’s nothing you can learn from defeat that you can’t learn from success… or something like that.

[lupedafiasco]

PFF grades for some players over the course of the season if anyone is interested.

[German_Panzer]

There’s nothing you can learn from defeat that you can’t learn from success… or something like that.

I think you learn better from defeat since it hurts more and therefore motivates you more to learn. If you win ugly there's still this jackass inside you that says: we are 4-1 and isn't that what really counts, so no biggie. I believe in the long run adversity and defeat are better teachers, also from personal experience. That would actually a good idea for a double-blind social experiment.

[RingoCStarrQB]

There’s nothing you can learn from defeat that you can’t learn from success… or something like that.

I think you learn better from defeat since it hurts more and therefore motivates you more to learn. If you win ugly there's still this jackass inside you that says: we are 4-1 and isn't that what really counts, so no biggie. I believe in the long run adversity and defeat are better teachers, also from personal experience. That would actually a good idea for a double-blind social experiment.

Fully concur. If and only if the person/people/team care to succeed/win. Some people don't care about much. Some people are better at learning lessons than others. Some make amazing turnarounds whereas others never seem to learn anything. Go Packers.

[APB]

There’s nothing you can learn from defeat that you can’t learn from success… or something like that.

I think you learn better from defeat since it hurts more and therefore motivates you more to learn. If you win ugly there's still this jackass inside you that says: we are 4-1 and isn't that what really counts, so no biggie. I believe in the long run adversity and defeat are better teachers, also from personal experience. That would actually a good idea for a double-blind social experiment.

Fully concur. If and only if the person/people/team care to succeed/win. Some people don't care about much. Some people are better at learning lessons than others. Some make amazing turnarounds whereas others never seem to learn anything. Go Packers.

I’d argue you get every bit as much “learning” by winning through adversity - much like this past weekend - as you do by losing. Hell, I’d say the learning curve is even greater.

If losing is such a useful tool, why isn’t Jacksonville dominating? I mean, they’ve had 19 straight weeks of “learning”, right?

Losing breeds more losing. I’ll take winning through adversity anytime.

[Yoop]

I think you learn better from defeat since it hurts more and therefore motivates you more to learn. If you win ugly there's still this jackass inside you that says: we are 4-1 and isn't that what really counts, so no biggie. I believe in the long run adversity and defeat are better teachers, also from personal experience. That would actually a good idea for a double-blind social experiment.

Fully concur. If and only if the person/people/team care to succeed/win. Some people don't care about much. Some people are better at learning lessons than others. Some make amazing turnarounds whereas others never seem to learn anything. Go Packers.

I’d argue you get every bit as much “learning” by winning through adversity - much like this past weekend - as you do by losing. Hell, I’d say the learning curve is even greater.

If losing is such a useful tool, why isn’t Jacksonville dominating? I mean, they’ve had 19 straight weeks of “learning”, right?

Losing breeds more losing. I’ll take winning through adversity anytime.

both are extremes, complacency takes hold with both, and is the ultimate destroyer, one should fight the grip of satisfaction just as he should never give in to the feelings that all is lost.

imo people do tend to learn more from a loss (mistake) , mostly because they fear failure more then they do the joys of success, a good example is how players respond to being cut or traded, typically they reinvent there compassion to succeed, I think it's human nature, just look at how hard it is to repeat as SB champs, I think someone said success is fleeting, I expect it's because complacency sets in, it's the fat head syndrome

[go pak go]

Fully concur. If and only if the person/people/team care to succeed/win. Some people don't care about much. Some people are better at learning lessons than others. Some make amazing turnarounds whereas others never seem to learn anything. Go Packers.

I’d argue you get every bit as much “learning” by winning through adversity - much like this past weekend - as you do by losing. Hell, I’d say the learning curve is even greater.

If losing is such a useful tool, why isn’t Jacksonville dominating? I mean, they’ve had 19 straight weeks of “learning”, right?

Losing breeds more losing. I’ll take winning through adversity anytime.

both are extremes, complacency takes hold with both, and is the ultimate destroyer, one should fight the grip of satisfaction just as he should never give in to the feelings that all is lost.

imo people do tend to learn more from a loss (mistake) , mostly because they fear failure more then they do the joys of success, a good example is how players respond to being cut or traded, typically they reinvent there compassion to succeed, I think it's human nature, just look at how hard it is to repeat as SB champs, I think someone said success is fleeting, I expect it's because complacency sets in, it's the fat head syndrome

I very strongly feel the data would show that by and large, people who get traded or cut, continue the cycle of being traded or cut until they are out of the league.

I am glad we are winning. It is nice when you win games and you realize and complain that all your wins should have been far easier and by larger point spreads than they were.

[Yoop]

I’d argue you get every bit as much “learning” by winning through adversity - much like this past weekend - as you do by losing. Hell, I’d say the learning curve is even greater.

If losing is such a useful tool, why isn’t Jacksonville dominating? I mean, they’ve had 19 straight weeks of “learning”, right?

Losing breeds more losing. I’ll take winning through adversity anytime.

both are extremes, complacency takes hold with both, and is the ultimate destroyer, one should fight the grip of satisfaction just as he should never give in to the feelings that all is lost.

imo people do tend to learn more from a loss (mistake) , mostly because they fear failure more then they do the joys of success, a good example is how players respond to being cut or traded, typically they reinvent there compassion to succeed, I think it's human nature, just look at how hard it is to repeat as SB champs, I think someone said success is fleeting, I expect it's because complacency sets in, it's the fat head syndrome

I very strongly feel the data would show that by and large, people who get traded or cut, continue the cycle of being traded or cut until they are out of the league.

I am glad we are winning. It is nice when you win games and you realize and complain that all your wins should have been far easier and by larger point spreads than they were.

your right, I should have said players that had been good, declined some and where traded, or maybe the analogy of the common worker who is fired or let go from one employer that try's not to let that happen again.

I don't know what your 2nd sentence refers to.

[go pak go]

Kinda bummed that twitter guy with the Packer victory video tweets isn't doing his thing this year.

Feel like this would have been a funny episode.

[NCF]

Kinda bummed that twitter guy with the Packer victory video tweets isn't doing his thing this year.

Feel like this would have been a funny episode.

I feel like he has some personal stuff going on right now. I just found the one for the Steelers game. I will post it.

[APB]

[mention]Packfntk[/mention] -

Nick - Wasn't this your "away" game of the year? Are you gonna do another write-up on your travel game-day experience? Please do! Always look forward to your trip summaries!

I'd be curious how those Cincy fans were leading up to the game and how their comments may have changed throughout the course of the game...? How the city treated you? Food/beer? You know, the good stuff...

[Packfntk]

@Packfntk -

Nick - Wasn't this your "away" game of the year? Are you gonna do another write-up on your travel game-day experience? Please do! Always look forward to your trip summaries!

I'd be curious how those Cincy fans were leading up to the game and how their comments may have changed throughout the course of the game...? How the city treated you? Food/beer? You know, the good stuff...

Yep, just posted in the Huddle Directory, but didn't do a full breakdown.

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City- I had gone to Cincy a few years ago for work. Cincy is a great city, and very underrated. Very clean downtown and awesome setup. We arrived Thursday and drank the whole town for a few days. HAHA. Cool area between the Reds stadium and the Bengals. Lots of bars and eating places.

Tailgating- Yikes. We have gone to 17 stadiums and this was in the bottom 2-3 for sure. No real lot, a few smaller lots for tailgating but that was it. We just walked around for 2 hours and there wasn't anything going on for one of those hours.

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Stadium- It is one of the more basic stadiums in the league, not a lot of character. If you don't look around outside, you wouldn't even know the Bengals play there. Inside was alright. Bottom half of what we have seen.

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Concessions- We drank about 1,000 beers the day before watching the Brewers and Badgers, and we never drink much gameday on our away trips. Got a beer, it was $9.50 and then some waters because it was hot and we were traveling home next day. Concession lines were long, and everyone was getting food. Way backed up.

Fans- To be honest, it was probably 50/50 Packer fans with tons of Go Pack Go chants started. The Bengals fans were nice to us the entire time, never ran into a crazed one that wanted to talk football though, I always enjoy that. Kind of strange.

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All in all, a good trip. Crazy game, but we got the W! (Me in the Cobb jersey)

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[go pak go]

Yeah Cincy's downtown and everything from the stadiums to the immediate side of the Kentucky side is really cool. (I think Cincy has one of the prettiest and most unique skyscapes there is and it's GORGEOUS on the Kentucky side at night)

Most everything else is trash. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE living here. It has really cool pockets and very "naturey". Basically my wife and I just do a lot of walks.

But I would say Cincy overall is about 30% - 40% "good" and 60% - 70% "not good". Some pretty good places to eat. Anything downtown is really hard to get a table.

As for fans, the Bengals fans are honestly pretty apathetic. They don't have anything to cheer for so I was curious too Nick how they would treat you after seeing 2 weeks of success. Lot more Packers fans than I was expecting based on the low ticket volume available after the Jaguars game. I figure those would all be Bengals fans but maybe the Packers fans already had most tickets locked up.

And yes. Paul Brown Stadium has zero character. There is like 3 Bengals street signs and flags.

I really wanted to go, but I just figured the price of the tickets did not equate to the experience that would be provided as it is a bottom stadium. I would say it's in that 30 to 32 range (in the conversation with FedEx Field of being the worst). Also going through family medical issues so justifying ticket costs seemed like a bad idea at the moment.

I am excited to come back to Cincy in 8 years as a "reunion" type thing to see the city again. Because otherwise I will likely never come back after we move away from here in July 2022.