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APB wrote:
03 Nov 2021 11:27
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I get that these are just kids, but man, the poor decision making... Unbelievable.
He's 22. I don't consider that as being a kid. He's an adult with extremely poor decision making and judgment who cost another human being his/her life out of stupidity and recklessness.

Sad all around.

*not trying to put words in your mouth or be presumptive saying you're using a "kid" defense. Not at all.
No offense taken. I wasn't making excuses... just pointing out that he is, essentially, a kid with his whole life in front of him. Yes, at 22 I was an adult, but to what degree is debatable.
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APB wrote:
03 Nov 2021 11:27
NCF wrote:
03 Nov 2021 11:16
I get that these are just kids, but man, the poor decision making... Unbelievable.
He's 22. I don't consider that as being a kid. He's an adult with extremely poor decision making and judgment who cost another human being his/her life out of stupidity and recklessness.

Sad all around.

*not trying to put words in your mouth or be presumptive saying you're using a "kid" defense. Not at all.
This part of Bohemian Rhapsody comes to mind:

"Mama, life had just begun,
But now I've gone and thrown it all away"
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YoHoChecko wrote:
02 Nov 2021 19:32
Realist wrote:
02 Nov 2021 18:40
Backthepack4ever wrote:
02 Nov 2021 18:28
Maybe there is. Any names?? Either way a game changer isnt out there
There is always a game changer out there. Not dopy fan's job to identify them. Depends on the gm's balls to make the call.
Somewhat ironically, I find this sentiment to be extremely... unrealistic
Absolute ingenious play on words. Not many people could have crafted that comeback. No impact players ever at the deadline? My bad.

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Odell been told by the team to stay home. These people today are not saving the drama for their mamas.
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paco wrote:
03 Nov 2021 12:53
Odell been told by the team to stay home. These people today are not saving the drama for their mamas.
He wanted to be traded. No one wanted that contract. He will be released shortly I would think. Makes sense for both sides. They need to get him off the books and no one traded now they aren’t going to in the off-season.

Gives us a chance at him on the open market if he will take a one year rental for a ring and gives him a shot at a big payday next year. I would think he wants something long term though for security more.
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22 now and 22 hundred years ago is like kid vs. adult. Today we grow much slower because we lack the challenges that make you grow: wars, marriages with (more than one) children, parents die older -> later responsibility to live life without a back-up, seeing bad stuff earlier, while today government/society try to hide it from you like helicopter parents, oh yeah helicopter parents, ....

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Trevon Diggs with 7 INTs in 7 games (7 in 6 games before last week). On pace for 17 which would be an NFL record. Night Train Lane had 14. 10 is the most in the last 40 years!
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Pckfn23 wrote:
05 Nov 2021 16:33
Trevon Diggs with 7 INTs in 7 games (7 in 6 games before last week). On pace for 17 which would be an NFL record. Night Train Lane had 14. 10 is the most in the last 40 years!
From what I’ve seen, a few of those pics not really ‘great’ plays. Bit more luck than anything.

And actually I think he’s having a pretty bad year outside of that without digging into it now. Think fans in the know think he isn’t covering very well and has a bad PFF grade despite 7 picks, so already with a healthy handicap.

Although he’s already a 1st team all-pro lock based off that alone despite the fact Stokes is playing as well.
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BF004 wrote:
05 Nov 2021 16:47
Pckfn23 wrote:
05 Nov 2021 16:33
Trevon Diggs with 7 INTs in 7 games (7 in 6 games before last week). On pace for 17 which would be an NFL record. Night Train Lane had 14. 10 is the most in the last 40 years!
From what I’ve seen, a few of those pics not really ‘great’ plays. Bit more luck than anything.

And actually I think he’s having a pretty bad year outside of that without digging into it now. Think fans in the know think he isn’t covering very well and has a bad PFF grade despite 7 picks, so already with a healthy handicap.

Although he’s already a 1st team all-pro lock based off that alone despite the fact Stokes is playing as well.
Interesting.
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Yikes, 57.4 PFF grade
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BF004 wrote:
05 Nov 2021 17:04
Yikes, 57.4 PFF grade
Am I reading it right that Stokes and Diggs have the exact same grade?
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BF004 wrote:
05 Nov 2021 17:04
Yikes, 57.4 PFF grade
Pff gives Devin white an overall average grade of 35.7 this season.

Therefore, I’m not going to use pff grades to negatively judge a player
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In the case of 2021 Devin White, that grade might not be as far off as one might think. 35.7 is excessively low.
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Drj820 wrote:
05 Nov 2021 17:06
BF004 wrote:
05 Nov 2021 17:04
Yikes, 57.4 PFF grade
Pff gives Devin white an overall average grade of 35.7 this season.

Therefore, I’m not going to use pff grades to negatively judge a player
Whether or not they grade well, every game, at least one person and then verified by another, watches every single snap he’s played. Definitely more than I have and likey a better judge of his play than my knowledge of him which mostly involves his draft slot.

I am sure there is a strong correlation to reality. A grade that bad tells me he’s probably made a ton of bad mistakes. Have any stats to support or disprove said grade?
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Wow, Florio is a petty !@#$.

Blocks Benkert and posts it and takes a dig at him for not taking NFL snaps. This after screwing up his last hit piece article on the Packers QB situation and Benkert calls him out.

Stupid to even care, but Kurt’s response had about 4x likes as Florio’s.

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I've been busy working this week.

Apparently Rodgers has COVID. Did you guys already talk about this?


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I really, really dig Benkert. :rotf:
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Ghost_Lombardi wrote:
06 Nov 2021 10:51
I've been busy work this week.

Apparently Rodgers has COVID. Did you guys already talk about this?


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