OBJ prioritizes Packers as Number 1 destination

[go pak go]

[Pckfn23]

So, it is set at $1.5 million. Anything signed at or below that and we agree to lose our minds!

[Drj820]

2 million for half of a season is my limit. Not sure i would gurantee all 2 million though. Odell is always hurt. I think it is 50/50 at best whether he is available for the playoffs for whatever team he signs with.

[Labrev]

Oh &%$@, this might actually happen...

[go pak go]

So, it is set at $1.5 million. Anything signed at or below that and we agree to lose our minds!

Clearly based on posts here I am considering far more factors in our remaining cap space than others.

So my number is likely lower than others. I just think $2 million or more really puts the Packers cap under stress and could very well end up going over the cap prior to the new league year. We have seen it before. And the result is loss of draft picks.

We already have seen so many injuries this year. Having less than $2.5 million with no ability to restructure anyone to free cap space if necessary is really dangerous.

[wallyuwl]

Oh &%$@, this might actually happen...

NFLN went through possible teams and it seems like nearly everyone is at or near the minimum for salary.

[Pckfn23]

So, it is set at $1.5 million. Anything signed at or below that and we agree to lose our minds!

Clearly based on posts here I am considering far more factors in our remaining cap space than others.

So my number is likely lower than others. I just think $2 million or more really puts the Packers cap under stress and could very well end up going over the cap prior to the new league year. We have seen it before. And the result is loss of draft picks.

We already have seen so many injuries this year. Having less than $2.5 million with no ability to restructure anyone to free cap space if necessary is really dangerous.

Ok, we will set it at $2 million then!

[BF004]

So is this true or no?

[BF004]

[BF004]

[NCF]

So is this true or no?

I'm confused by offset language. I get it, but I haven't seen this point made like it was for Jaylon Smith. There was also something about not seeking termination pay from the Browns, whatever that would have been.

[go pak go]

Yeah all of these contract things we just don't know about unless we were to read them.

That is a part of the reason it's hard to get too much into the weeds of how much we are offering, etc.

I think the primary thing is it's up to Odell as far as what situation he wants best.

[Yoop]

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actually I think it's a snow ball affect, if a receiver like Jennings knows he's as good or better then another then he wants more then the other makes, thats the respect I think Jennings was looking for, always wished we would have payed him, just because it didn't work with Minny doesn't mean it would have happened here.

We did offer to pay him after 2011. He gambled. Turned down the offer and lost and was then stuck with MN because his value dropped after his 2012 injury.

Jennings was dumb because the Packers offered a very fair deal and he was not including the extranalities of being a Packer. He had commercials, endorsements, etc. All of that went away when he went to MN because of a less popular team and his QB was terrible so production fell.

Jennings gambled and lost. And he really lost because he also lost his relevancy. The only thing he can contribute now is when the media wants a hit piece on Aaron Rodgers.

your right we did offer about 8 mil. my point, which I failed to explain further (figuring you'd read my mind anyway ) was that for only 1 more mill GJ felt respected and signed with the purple, and we had a few other high priority signings to pay out that year if I'am remembering right, Mathews, Raji. where also due.

[Pckfn23]

So is this true or no?

Why would the offset language mean no incentive to get more from his new team?

[BF004]

So is this true or no?

Why would the offset language mean no incentive to get more from his new team?

Because he gets 7.5 million the remaining of year no matter what.

Browns pay him 7.5 - whatever the new team offers. No reason for the new team to pay more.


At least that is the thought process here.

[Pckfn23]

So is this true or no?

Why would the offset language mean no incentive to get more from his new team?

Because he gets 7.5 million the remaining of year no matter what.

Browns pay him 7.5 - whatever the new team offers. No reason for the new team to pay more.


At least that is the thought process here.

Ya, for the team I get it, but for OBJ, why wouldn't he want to add more onto that $7.5 million.

Also from what I read the Browns saved $3 million of that $7.5 million by cutting him, but that could be wrong too.

[BF004]

Why would the offset language mean no incentive to get more from his new team?

Because he gets 7.5 million the remaining of year no matter what.

Browns pay him 7.5 - whatever the new team offers. No reason for the new team to pay more.


At least that is the thought process here.

Ya, for the team I get it, but for OBJ, why wouldn't he want to add more onto that $7.5 million.

Also from what I read the Browns saved $3 million of that $7.5 million by cutting him, but that could be wrong too.

Browns pay him 7.5 million less new team money + new team money = 7.5 million

(7.5 - x) + x = 7.5

Don't know the finer points, so don't care about 3 million savings or whatever. Is that how the offset works, is what we are asking.

[Pckfn23]

Ya, I have no idea what how this actually works. If that is the case (what OBJ makes from new team means Browns pay that much less to him), then there is absolutely no reason for any team to pay him more than league minimum. It seems weird though. I wonder if $3 million is the offset and OBJ would need more than $3 million to see a pay raise for the year...?

[NCF]

Ya, I have no idea what how this actually works. If that is the case (what OBJ makes from new team means Browns pay that much less to him), then there is absolutely no reason for any team to pay him more than league minimum. It seems weird though. I wonder if $3 million is the offset and OBJ would need more than $3 million to see a pay raise for the year...?

That tweet seems like 4.25 is the offset and 3 million was actually given up by OBJ (maybe he agreed to give that up so he would be released). So teams would have to pay above 4.25 for him to make any additional money. Not sure many will be willing and thus minimum is just as good as any other number all the way up to 4.25. That is how I am reading that.

[go pak go]

actually I think it's a snow ball affect, if a receiver like Jennings knows he's as good or better then another then he wants more then the other makes, thats the respect I think Jennings was looking for, always wished we would have payed him, just because it didn't work with Minny doesn't mean it would have happened here.

We did offer to pay him after 2011. He gambled. Turned down the offer and lost and was then stuck with MN because his value dropped after his 2012 injury.

Jennings was dumb because the Packers offered a very fair deal and he was not including the extranalities of being a Packer. He had commercials, endorsements, etc. All of that went away when he went to MN because of a less popular team and his QB was terrible so production fell.

Jennings gambled and lost. And he really lost because he also lost his relevancy. The only thing he can contribute now is when the media wants a hit piece on Aaron Rodgers.

your right we did offer about 8 mil. my point, which I failed to explain further (figuring you'd read my mind anyway ) was that for only 1 more mill GJ felt respected and signed with the purple, and we had a few other high priority signings to pay out that year if I'am remembering right, Mathews, Raji. where also due.

No we offered more in 2011 and then less after 2012 (which the Vikings beat) after his injury.