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salmar80 wrote:
14 Nov 2021 07:39
Picks so far:

salmar80 ---------------- OLB Whitney Mercilus
paco ---------------------- RB AJ Dillon
Pckfn23 ------------------ WR Allen Lazard
Labrev -------------------- OLB Rashan Gary
Lugger ------------------- RB Aaron Jones
TheSeptic --------------- QB Jordan Love
RingoCStarrQB -------- K Mason Crosby
go pak go ---------------- WR MVS
Yoop ---------------------- WR Davante Adams
NCF ---------------------- QB Aaron Rodgers
APB ----------------------- Offensive line
BF004 ------------------- S Adrian Amos
Drj820 ------------------- OLB Krys Barnes
Packfntk ----------------- TE Josiah Deguara
Cdragon ----------------- ILB De'Vondre Campbell
lulu ------------------------ CB Kevin King
packman114 ------------- DL Dean Lowry
Crazylegs Sharks ------ OLB Preston Smith
Bogey -------------------- OLB Jonathan Garvin
YoHoChecko ------------ WR Randall Cobb
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I hope I didn't jinx Jones. :( I too vote for Dillon and an honorable mention to Amos.

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Amos. He was an absolute ball hawk back there.
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Wow, vote on King atm, but leaning closer to Stokes given some more info here.

Has to be D, King, Stokes or Amos
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Point, counter point:
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BF004 wrote:
15 Nov 2021 10:08


So how was Eric Stokes so far behind King and Amos??
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Guessing could be one of many things. Missed tackles, poor run support, bad passes or drops, bad coverage but not targetted or bailed out by safety.
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Pckfn23 wrote:
15 Nov 2021 10:10
BF004 wrote:
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So how was Eric Stokes so far behind King and Amos??
Probably bcuz pff is completely overrated and irrelevant.

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BF004 wrote:
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Guessing could be one of many things. Missed tackles, poor run support, bad passes or drops, bad coverage but not targetted or bailed out by safety.
Without the All-22, I don't know how anyone could grade the latter (targeted toward PFF).
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My issue with voting King is it looked to me like Metcalf got open for potentially huge plays that likely would have gone for TDs while King was covering him, and King lucked out of getting burnt on them because Russ was under pressure and couldn't keep his eyes downfield. Stokes is more worthy.

But I am going to give my vote to Preston Smith, who had been quiet lately but really came on and harassed Russ during this game -- a big part of the secondary's success was our front-seven against the run and pass. Smith even had the sack with Gary off the field.
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Labrev wrote:
15 Nov 2021 11:09
My issue with voting King is it looked to me like Metcalf got open for potentially huge plays that likely would have gone for TDs while King was covering him, and King lucked out of getting burnt on them because Russ was under pressure and couldn't keep his eyes downfield. Stokes is more worthy.

But I am going to give my vote to Preston Smith, who had been quiet lately but really came on and harassed Russ during this game -- a big part of the secondary's success was our front-seven against the run and pass. Smith even had the sack with Gary off the field.
This is a very good vote.

I'm changing my vote to Preston Smith.
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Pckfn23 wrote:
15 Nov 2021 10:10
So how was Eric Stokes so far behind King and Amos??
We all know it's because of the state line:

INT.

When a grading system grades players on the same scale as I do based on watching LIVE and fan emotion, that is not a good grading system. After more review, Stokes was the best CB yesterday by far.
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I demand a recount of Newman's PFF grade! I refuse to believe he was the best O-lineman yesterday! :messedup:
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Labrev wrote:
15 Nov 2021 11:09
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But I am going to give my vote to Preston Smith, who had been quiet lately but really came on and harassed Russ during this game -- a big part of the secondary's success was our front-seven against the run and pass. Smith even had the sack with Gary off the field.
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15 Nov 2021 11:10
This is a very good vote.

I'm changing my vote to Preston Smith.
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Great arguments for King and Stokes and Amos and Preston, but I’m going with Dillon.
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King and Stokes allowed 10 yards of passing combined :messedup: :kaboom:

Voting King, since he also had an INT.
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go pak go wrote:
15 Nov 2021 11:12
Pckfn23 wrote:
15 Nov 2021 10:10
So how was Eric Stokes so far behind King and Amos??
We all know it's because of the state line:

INT.

When a grading system grades players on the same scale as I do based on watching LIVE and fan emotion, that is not a good grading system. After more review, Stokes was the best CB yesterday by far.
you watch the action around the BALL, PFF has people that watch individual players play whether the BALL is around that player or not, big difference.

obviously PFF can and is wrong at times, no one is perfect, but they take in degree of difficulty and other factors we don't.

probably why King had a higher grade then Stokes

I also vote for King.
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We all watch the action around the ball because it is all the broadcast will allow us to see.
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Pckfn23 wrote:
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We all watch the action around the ball because it is all the broadcast will allow us to see.
thats BS and you know it.

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Yoop wrote:
16 Nov 2021 06:47
Pckfn23 wrote:
16 Nov 2021 06:45
We all watch the action around the ball because it is all the broadcast will allow us to see.
thats BS and you know it.
No, actually it's legitimate fact. The broadcast only shows the whole field on rare occasions, so it is impossible to watch anything but the action around the ball.
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