Packers @ Lions GDT: Sunday, January 9th, 12:00 PM CST

From Lambeau to Lombardi, Holmgren, McCarthy and LaFleur and from Starr to Favre, Rodgers and now Jordan Love we’re talking Super Bowl Champion Green Bay Packers football. This Packers Forum is the place to talk NFL football and everything Packers. So, pull up a keyboard, make yourself at home and let’s talk some Packers football.

Moderators: NCF, salmar80, BF004, APB, Packfntk

User avatar
go pak go
Reactions:
Posts: 13136
Joined: 22 Mar 2020 21:30

Post by go pak go »

German_Panzer wrote:
09 Jan 2022 18:49
Could not see the game, how did Bak do? From what I read so far about Love he reminds me of B.Brohm back then. And we know how that ended.
The starting offensive line at times gave Rodgers like 8 seconds to throw the ball. They looked really good.

Josh Meyers had one play where he got beat on a 3 man rush which was really bad. Starting offense was fantastic to start the game but then really fizzled out their next 2 to three drives.

Alan Lazard was the player of the game.
Yoop wrote:
26 May 2021 11:22
could we get some moderation in here to get rid of conspiracy theory's, some in here are trying to have a adult conversation.
Image

User avatar
Labrev
Reactions:
Posts: 6487
Joined: 25 Mar 2020 00:01

Post by Labrev »



WTF, I love Jared GoLf now.
“Most other nations don't allow a terrorist to be their leader.”
“... Yet so many allow their leaders to be terrorists.”
—Magneto

User avatar
Scott4Pack
Reactions:
Posts: 2816
Joined: 26 Mar 2020 03:41
Location: New Mexico

Post by Scott4Pack »

1. Vanilla offense.
2. Lackluster defense.
3. Subs to go to all position groups.
4. Nothing to gain by winning this game.
5. Too many players who would've been motivated to not get hurt.

My opinion is that it would take a whole lot of convincing that the Packers brought their A-game to Detroit. It just didn't happen. Therefore, I'm not going to harp on the D or Love or anybody else for this game. It was hardly better than any training camp practice. My suggestion is that we should all relax for the next two weeks.
Come on down and try some of our delicious green chili! Best in the world!

User avatar
go pak go
Reactions:
Posts: 13136
Joined: 22 Mar 2020 21:30

Post by go pak go »

I find it frustrating when fans go into a game expecting to win easy....then lose and justify it by "we didn't try"

Absolutely they looked like they were trying. The sideline was pumped and rooting for everyone the whole game.

The Lions bested us. Goff looked great and we had no answer for Armon St Brown over the middle.

I was disappointed in no answer for St Brown, no real rythym on offense after the first drive and Love missing the throw to St. Brown at the end.

And I also see no further need of activating Amari Rodgers at this point.

I really wanted 14-3. Having said all that...all that matters is these next three games. This is kind of it probably for a while. Go make it count.
Yoop wrote:
26 May 2021 11:22
could we get some moderation in here to get rid of conspiracy theory's, some in here are trying to have a adult conversation.
Image

dsr
Reactions:
Posts: 244
Joined: 24 Apr 2020 17:58

Post by dsr »

go pak go wrote:
09 Jan 2022 18:46
dsr wrote:
09 Jan 2022 18:43
Drj820 wrote:
09 Jan 2022 18:31
The year is 2023. Love has started 18 games in his career. in 2022, love started every game and went 4-13. No evaluations have been made about Love yet. In start one, he was on the road. For 9 games of 2022 he was on the road, so it is not fair to evaluate him in those games, environment too hostile. In the first 4 home games of 2022 the weather was warm, and no GB QB plays good in the warmth...so it is not fair to evaluate him in those games. In the last 4 home games, 2 starters on the offense were out hurt..one starting linemen and one WR. It is not fair to evaluate Love when he does not have a full cast of teammates.

Hopefully in 2023 we can start to see what he have in the 4th year, former first round draft selection.
It took Rodgers 4 seasons before he went 4-12, so Love would be ahead there!
Rodgers never went 4-12.
My bad. 6-10. But then, Love hasn't achieved his 4-13 yet either.

Acrobat
Reactions:
Posts: 1799
Joined: 28 Apr 2020 10:16

Post by Acrobat »

Scott4Pack wrote:
10 Jan 2022 02:50
1. Vanilla offense.
2. Lackluster defense.
3. Subs to go to all position groups.
4. Nothing to gain by winning this game.
5. Too many players who would've been motivated to not get hurt.

My opinion is that it would take a whole lot of convincing that the Packers brought their A-game to Detroit. It just didn't happen. Therefore, I'm not going to harp on the D or Love or anybody else for this game. It was hardly better than any training camp practice. My suggestion is that we should all relax for the next two weeks.
Truth. I think MLF just wanted to get some work in to avoid 3 full weeks off without any major injuries and it looks like he accomplished that. Yeah wish the team had played better but it is what it is and we see this quite often when teams have nothing to play for.

All in all, this game will have zero impact on what will happen in January than position coaches having some film on individual performances that they can coach on.

User avatar
APB
Reactions:
Posts: 7828
Joined: 20 Mar 2020 06:53
Location: Virginia

Post by APB »

Acrobat wrote:
10 Jan 2022 07:52
Scott4Pack wrote:
10 Jan 2022 02:50
1. Vanilla offense.
2. Lackluster defense.
3. Subs to go to all position groups.
4. Nothing to gain by winning this game.
5. Too many players who would've been motivated to not get hurt.

My opinion is that it would take a whole lot of convincing that the Packers brought their A-game to Detroit. It just didn't happen. Therefore, I'm not going to harp on the D or Love or anybody else for this game. It was hardly better than any training camp practice. My suggestion is that we should all relax for the next two weeks.
Truth. I think MLF just wanted to get some work in to avoid 3 full weeks off without any major injuries and it looks like he accomplished that. Yeah wish the team had played better but it is what it is and we see this quite often when teams have nothing to play for.

All in all, this game will have zero impact on what will happen in January than position coaches having some film on individual performances that they can coach on.
Yep, this. Mission accomplished this week.

I won't do any hand wringing over a loss that saw conservative calls in the gameday inactive list, apparent less-than-thorough focus on scouting and defensive scheming for an opponent, and widespread substitutions throughout the game. Yeah, I still think we can be critical of individual performances but I'm not getting my underoos in a wad over a meaningless L in the books that, in some eyes, somehow lessens what MLF has accomplished statistically in his three years.

User avatar
Scott4Pack
Reactions:
Posts: 2816
Joined: 26 Mar 2020 03:41
Location: New Mexico

Post by Scott4Pack »

Also noted that some other teams that are playoff bound didn't escape the injury bug. Didn't KC have a couple of key guys get dinged?
Come on down and try some of our delicious green chili! Best in the world!

Drj820
Reactions:
Posts: 9943
Joined: 26 Mar 2020 12:34

Post by Drj820 »

Honeslty not totally sure we escaped it depending on the news from MVS. It sure would be nice to have him in 2 weeks. That go route softens the Defense.
I Do Not Hate Matt Lafleur

User avatar
BF004
Reactions:
Posts: 13635
Joined: 17 Mar 2020 16:05
Location: Suamico
Contact:

Post by BF004 »

Image

Image

User avatar
APB
Reactions:
Posts: 7828
Joined: 20 Mar 2020 06:53
Location: Virginia

Post by APB »

German_Panzer wrote:
09 Jan 2022 18:49
Could not see the game, how did Bak do? From what I read so far about Love he reminds me of B.Brohm back then. And we know how that ended.

Drj820
Reactions:
Posts: 9943
Joined: 26 Mar 2020 12:34

Post by Drj820 »

They did say Bahk was pulled earlier than planned due to exhaustion. And the next couple days will be telling to see how his knee responds to game action.

I surely hope everything responds well!
I Do Not Hate Matt Lafleur

User avatar
Pckfn23
Reactions:
Posts: 13973
Joined: 22 Mar 2020 22:13
Location: Western Wisconsin

Post by Pckfn23 »



Just consistently 5+ pressures a game for Gary. Crazy.
Image
Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."

User avatar
Pckfn23
Reactions:
Posts: 13973
Joined: 22 Mar 2020 22:13
Location: Western Wisconsin

Post by Pckfn23 »


Image
Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."

User avatar
Pckfn23
Reactions:
Posts: 13973
Joined: 22 Mar 2020 22:13
Location: Western Wisconsin

Post by Pckfn23 »



And Savage/Amos need to play better.
Image
Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."

User avatar
paco
Reactions:
Posts: 6718
Joined: 18 Mar 2020 15:29
Location: Janesville, WI

Post by paco »

Pckfn23 wrote:
10 Jan 2022 09:45


And Savage/Amos need to play better.
Especially Savage. Woof. Not sure what's wrong with him this year. Looks disinterested at times.
Image
RIP JustJeff

User avatar
Pckfn23
Reactions:
Posts: 13973
Joined: 22 Mar 2020 22:13
Location: Western Wisconsin

Post by Pckfn23 »

He is peaking in the backfield far too much. I really hope LaFleur's public comment about players doing their job was directed at him.
Image
Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."

Drj820
Reactions:
Posts: 9943
Joined: 26 Mar 2020 12:34

Post by Drj820 »

I hope this is another data point that shows the FO the importance of high level ILB play, and it should be seen as essential to acquire even if at a higher cost. I remember a discussion where some went in the direction that says Campbell would reinforce the FOs idea that they can keep plugging and playing and find ILB anywhere at a cheap cost...I really hope they took a different lesson...and that is that no matter the cost...this defense needs quality ILB play.

Campbell saved this defense.
I Do Not Hate Matt Lafleur

User avatar
go pak go
Reactions:
Posts: 13136
Joined: 22 Mar 2020 21:30

Post by go pak go »

Drj820 wrote:
10 Jan 2022 09:54
I hope this is another data point that shows the FO the importance of high level ILB play, and it should be seen as essential to acquire even if at a higher cost. I remember a discussion where some went in the direction that says Campbell would reinforce the FOs idea that they can keep plugging and playing and find ILB anywhere at a cheap cost...I really hope they took a different lesson...and that is that no matter the cost...this defense needs quality ILB play.

Campbell saved this defense.
Yeah. Priority signs for me this off-season is Campbell and Douglas. Everything else may fall as it may.

But I think we need to retain these two.

The value is just too strong.
Yoop wrote:
26 May 2021 11:22
could we get some moderation in here to get rid of conspiracy theory's, some in here are trying to have a adult conversation.
Image

User avatar
Crazylegs Starks
Reactions:
Posts: 3570
Joined: 24 Mar 2020 21:50
Location: Northern WI

Post by Crazylegs Starks »

German_Panzer wrote:
09 Jan 2022 18:49
Could not see the game, how did Bak do? From what I read so far about Love he reminds me of B.Brohm back then. And we know how that ended.
Brohm couldn't even reliably throw a spiral! (He blamed it on sweaty hands :lol: )

If I remember correctly, it was also reported that the coaches were frustrated with him because he was listening only to his Dad (and brother?).

Love is waaaaay better than Brohm ever was
“We didn’t lose the game; we just ran out of time.”
- Vince Lombardi

Post Reply