Amari Rodgers

[Labrev]

My take would be that Kupp and Adams play faster than their times.

I'm not a "bro, measurables don't matter bro, just look at the Taep brooooo"-guy, but if a guy looks 4.4 on tape and tests 4.6, he's probably 4.5, which is good enough speed if you have good size and agility like Kupp and Adams.

And, again, program plays a significant role. Bigger college football programs train their athletes to test well so they get drafted highly. Maryland players always test great for that reason. Eastern Washington (Kupp), Fresno State (Adams), Iowa State (Lazard) players probably do not enjoy a similar benefit.

[Drj820]

Also I mean 40 times are measuring straight line speed. Which is useful if coming into the league you are seen as a guy like MVS or Djax. But Adams and Kupp dont make their livings running go routes. They are elite at their craft. Footwork, routes, knowing the soft spot in the defense, the mental game, first move quickness, getting in and out of breaks....all things not really measurable in any way by the 40 or even a cone drill. These are the things that Amari looks slow or mentally handicapped at...while Adams and Kupp are just amazing at.

[Pckfn23]

While that may have been the case 10+ years ago, unless you are looking at D2 & D3 players, they train to specifically excel at the drills. It is not necessarily true that a Fresno State or Iowa State player is going to have less opportunity to train for the combine drills compared to an Ohio State or Maryland or Oregon.

What sticks out to me is the Adams and Kupp took into their 3rd year to break out. Partly the reason why I am not writing off Rodgers just yet.

[Pckfn23]

while Adams and Kupp are just amazing at.

And it took them some time to become amazing at them.

[Drj820]

while Adams and Kupp are just amazing at.

And it took them some time to become amazing at them.

true. Which is why I havent advocated for Amari to be cut. Just want him shut down for the year.

[NCF]

I actually think he is a dark horse to have a big game in the Divisional Round. Pretty much went the whole season avoiding the heavy use of jet motion we saw the past two years. I think it makes a come back and I think the Packers may have a few things up their sleeve involving Amari.

[Yoop]

I actually think he is a dark horse to have a big game in the Divisional Round. Pretty much went the whole season avoiding the heavy use of jet motion we saw the past two years. I think it makes a come back and I think the Packers may have a few things up their sleeve involving Amari.

I would love more then anything to be wrong about Amari, the promo was pretty good, great open field runner, sure handed receiver, who runs great routes, my whole point is we should have seen more then just glimpses of that, and I'am not so sure we've seen any of it, but I understand now that I need to have patience, look how well Gary is playing now 3 years in, urrrrr, I simply shouldn't expect these puppys to become full grown dogs sooner

[bud fox]

The best receiver in the NFL ran a 4.56 at the combine with a 1.64 10 yard split.

Pro days are faster than combines. Also body types come into play... expect a slot to have a top 10 yard and up there in 40 yard.

[texas]

wont even allow the name B o s t i c k printed here, 6 years and we still have a filter on that name

Brandon $%&#

That was JustJeff's doing (carried over from the old forum) and it still cracks me up to this day...

On that note, in my fantasy leagues, to this day I still ban Golden Tate. Anyone who has him on the roster will get his points nullified on a given week via commissioner edit.

[texas]

People forget how bad Davante was in his sophomore season. Davante was historically bad, literally. And now look at him.

Difference of course is that Davante's athletic talent was always off the charts, and I don't think Amari Rodgers has the same pedigree.

But I'm not going to put too much stock into rookie campaigns for WRs. It's fairly rare that rookie WRs impress much, although it has been happening more often, recently.

Amari has a pedigree more similar to James Jones. And Jones had a very rough start, with LOTS of dropped passes. He had so many drops that pundits, including many in this forum, would joke about how his thumbs were out or in. Somebody even repeated a note about that just the other day.

From the start, I've been worried about Amari's hands. They are just BAD at this point. I hope that there's NO WAY that MLF keeps this kid in PR duties in January. But I'm happy to see what he can do next year, after loads of training with Cobb and another TC.

Yeah I remember that. I always liked James Jones even then, I think I figured he was just going through a rough patch.

I feel the same way about Amari Rodgers. The guy was not expected to contribute this season and everybody said he was very raw. Whereas with Jordan Love, we can start to make judgments, with Amari Rodgers, we shouldn't be. If Amari is the same in a year then maybe we can start to wonder.

[texas]

My take would be that Kupp and Adams play faster than their times.

I'm not a "bro, measurables don't matter bro, just look at the Taep brooooo"-guy, but if a guy looks 4.4 on tape and tests 4.6, he's probably 4.5, which is good enough speed if you have good size and agility like Kupp and Adams.

And, again, program plays a significant role. Bigger college football programs train their athletes to test well so they get drafted highly. Maryland players always test great for that reason. Eastern Washington (Kupp), Fresno State (Adams), Iowa State (Lazard) players probably do not enjoy a similar benefit.

This is so true. Also combined with the fact that the media's eyes are constantly on the big programs so they have a better chance to build up a hype train.

I think this is the root of my anti- Ohio State QB bias frankly. Either that or the fact that they all sucked in the NFL. And really, most of the big schools with top QB prospects end up turning out busts.

[TheSkeptic]

I am not writing Amari off yet either. He needs to spend the offseason working on his body, getting quicker and a little faster. He needs to study film and see what Adams and the other great receivers do.

But he has another problem that cannot be fixed with quickness drills, he is small. He is only 5'9 1/2. We talk about him losing weight to be quicker and clearly he should not weight the same as Adams who is 3 inches taller, but weighing 180 could be a problem for him too.

So if I were the Packers, I would take a 2nd day draft pick to hedge my bets with Amari. It would not be a bad idea to use a mid round pick on a dedicated kick and punt returner either, someone like Desmond Howard, because I don't think Amari can ever be special at it.

[APB]

I am not writing Amari off yet either. He needs to spend the offseason working on his body, getting quicker and a little faster. He needs to study film and see what Adams and the other great receivers do.

But he has another problem that cannot be fixed with quickness drills, he is small. He is only 5'9 1/2. We talk about him losing weight to be quicker and clearly he should not weight the same as Adams who is 3 inches taller, but weighing 180 could be a problem for him too.

So if I were the Packers, I would take a 2nd day draft pick to hedge my bets with Amari. It would not be a bad idea to use a mid round pick on a dedicated kick and punt returner either, someone like Desmond Howard, because I don't think Amari can ever be special at it.

He's a half inch shorter than Tyreek Hill. I don't think height is what's keeping Amari from being successful in the NFL.

[Scott4Pack]

Given the needs of the team, I think drafting at least one WR in the spring is to be expected. That is a wideout AND a slot guy if the right guy is available.

What about those guys that excelled with Brady and the Patriots. I don't know that any of them were especially fast or quick. But they were tough. And having an excellent QB helped them to excel. Once they improved their routes and hands, success happened, even for a less than elite athlete.