Rodgers future

[RingoCStarrQB]

Yoop. If there is one thing you bring...it is entertainment.

Still missed the point of NCF's post.

Yoop brings way more than entertainment. Yoop has a deep understanding of Packers history. The day he busted me for blowing over some fact related to Vainisi was awesome. Still proud to continue to advocate putting Vainisi's name up on the inner sanctum along with TT. The afterglow of the Vainisi-Lombardi era continues to eternally flame the Packers Titletown mystique (or whatever other word you want to use).

[Labrev]

Now I'm more inclined to get rid of LaFleur and keep Rodgers. Rodgers did not lose Saturday night's game.

Rodgers did not lose the game, but he did not win it, either. Same story as 2020 and 2014.

Gotta disagree here. Rodger's terrible play had as much to do with the loss as anything, other than maybe special teams.

I don't disagree with that.

I guess what I was trying to say there was that while Rodgers played safe and thus did not commit any costly errors (e.g. fumbles, INTs, pick-6s, dumb penalties, burning TOs) that hurt us directly, neither did he take the bull by the horns and *make* any plays to pull us ahead, as one would expect of the league's MVP.

You could say he killed us with some of the sacks, but I feel like MLF's decision to go Turner-Wagner against Nick Bosa rather than Nijman-Turner was more blameworthy on that issue specifically. Mike Wahle did a great job explaining on Pack-A-Day Podcast why pulling Nijman and having a guy like Kelly go up against Bosa at RT was a double-bad call by our coach.

[Drj820]

Yoop. If there is one thing you bring...it is entertainment.

Still missed the point of NCF's post.

Yoop brings way more than entertainment. Yoop has a deep understanding of Packers history. The day he busted me for blowing over some fact related to Vainisi was awesome. Still proud to continue to advocate putting Vainisi's name up on the inner sanctum along with TT. The afterglow of the Vainisi-Lombardi era continues to eternally flame the Packers Titletown mystique (or whatever other word you want to use).

Yoop deserves more respect

#RespectYoop

[NCF]

[Yoop]

Yoop. If there is one thing you bring...it is entertainment.

Still missed the point of NCF's post.

Yoop brings way more than entertainment. Yoop has a deep understanding of Packers history. The day he busted me for blowing over some fact related to Vainisi was awesome. Still proud to continue to advocate putting Vainisi's name up on the inner sanctum along with TT. The afterglow of the Vainisi-Lombardi era continues to eternally flame the Packers Titletown mystique (or whatever other word you want to use).

Yoop deserves more respect

#RespectYoop

[Pugger]

Most here believe it is time to start over and deal Rodgers away. I suspect Gute will not want Rodgers in the NFC but he may not have a choice. What potential suitors do you think we can make a deal with? Has his trade value taken a hit last night?

I want Rodgers back. It is not like Favre in 2008 where u could see the end. #12 has easily 4 top years in him and that is an eternity in the NFL. I do not share this defeatistic attitude of Packernation. I also believe MLF is not a good coach, just mediocre and riding on Rodgers back.

A lot of fans believe if we don't trade Rodgers this offseason we won't be able to keep the talented team around him and we'll be even deeper cap hell in 2023. Is is the hope we can garner some high picks to restock the roster and surround Love with a good D and running game and that is the best chance for success going forward.

[Acrobat]

Gotta wonder if Tampa is a potential suitor now.

[go pak go]

Gotta wonder if Tampa is a potential suitor now.

I tend to doubt it. Brady restructured too so Tampa will have I believe around $24 million in dead cap too if Brady does in fact retire.

[bud fox]

Gotta wonder if Tampa is a potential suitor now.

Not sure on the cap for Tampa but definitely.

[Drj820]

rodgers is awful in Florida

[Crazylegs Starks]

rodgers is awful in Florida

[Drj820]

[dsr]

If I'am picking 12 in the draft I want someone that can contribute soon in there first year, obviously I expect them to improve for several years after that to reach there ceiling, to wait for 3 years on every draft pick to develop as a quality starter translates to always being in rebuild mode, sorta spells out our defense from 2011 till 2020

When you post this sort of thing I sometimes wonder why it is you are so keen on Rodgers staying. He was drafted in the first round and was not able to contribute in his first year or second years and he contributed little in his third. We had to wait 4 years for him to develop. If he was such a bad draft pick, what made you change your mind? Could it have been the standard of play in his career as a whole?

[go pak go]

If I'am picking 12 in the draft I want someone that can contribute soon in there first year, obviously I expect them to improve for several years after that to reach there ceiling, to wait for 3 years on every draft pick to develop as a quality starter translates to always being in rebuild mode, sorta spells out our defense from 2011 till 2020

When you post this sort of thing I sometimes wonder why it is you are so keen on Rodgers staying. He was drafted in the first round and was not able to contribute in his first year or second years and he contributed little in his third. We had to wait 4 years for him to develop. If he was such a bad draft pick, what made you change your mind? Could it have been the standard of play in his career as a whole?

We have heard all his answers already.. Whenever this gets brought up he says QBs take time to develop (I give him credit. He has maintained this stance). Whenever Kenny Clark gets brought up he says QBs and DL take a long time to develop.

But Edge Rusher and CBs are known as the "easiest" to transition to the pro game. WR is a little odd. Whenever it's talking about Adams he says WRs takes forever to develop and everyone should have seen he'd be the best but Justin Jefferson's immediate success is a clear indication of why we should have traded up 12 spots or whatever it was to take Jefferson.

It's transactional arguing and we already have all the arguing documented on this and the prior forum.

However, I also am not saying yoop is entirely wrong. I actually he think he has a lot of merit in what he says.

[go pak go]

Let's be real here.

Nathaniel Hackett: Gone
Luke Getsy: Gone

Add that with the salary cap woes the Packers are in, the era is over. Rodgers isn't coming back.

[paco]

Everyone is either doubling down that he's gone or he stays. Time to pick your side and stick with it.

I've been in the "he's gone" camp for a while.

[go pak go]

Everyone is either doubling down that he's gone or he stays. Time to pick your side and stick with it.

I've been in the "he's gone" camp for a while.

I've been in the "he's gone camp after the 2021 season" since last year's draft.

Every piece of my plan came together until the loss at Lambeau. To me, nothing has changed since now and last April outside of we got Randall Cobb. Everything else has been steady as Packers and Gute goes.

[Drj820]

I just posted a report from rapsheet. My post did not include my own opinions.

[paco]

I just posted a report from rapsheet. My post did not include my own opinions.

My post wasn't referring to you doubling down, if that's what you thought. I'm with go pak go and think he's gone and its been the plan for a long time.

What are your thoughts?

[paco]

Someone, explain to me like I'm 12, what exactly can the Packers do to get under the cap to Tag Adams? We are $50M under right now.

Please, play with the numbers and make the moves. Tell me what it will take that you think Rodgers would be ok with.
https://overthecap.com/calculator/green-bay-packers/