Packer Staff Changes

[NCF]

[Pugger]

This is promising news. Let's hope this guy can help fix our ST mess.

[TheSkeptic]

washed up Rodgers is about to win his second MVP in a row guys

And watch someone else play in the SB. Just as he watched someone else play in the NFC championship game.

Regular season MVP is a meaningless popularity context. The only MVP that matters is Super Bowl MVP.

[RingoCStarrQB]

washed up Rodgers is about to win his second MVP in a row guys

And watch someone else play in the SB. Just as he watched someone else play in the NFC championship game.

Regular season MVP is a meaningless popularity context. The only MVP that matters is Super Bowl MVP.

And Bart has 2 and Desmond has 1 and Aaron has 1.

Brett won Player of the Year in 1995. Reggie won Player of the Year in 1998. Charles Woodson won Player of the Year in 2009.

[Half Empty]

washed up Rodgers is about to win his second MVP in a row guys

And watch someone else play in the SB. Just as he watched someone else play in the NFC championship game.

Regular season MVP is a meaningless popularity context. The only MVP that matters is Super Bowl MVP.

And Bart has 2 and Desmond has 1 and Aaron has 1.

Brett won Player of the Year in 1995. Reggie won Player of the Year in 1998. Charles Woodson won Player of the Year in 2009.

Still working on my morning coffee, so excuse me if I'm just really dense. Certainly can't argue with what you said, I just can't quite understand what point you're making. Do the awards listed support or refute the contention that Rodgers' MVP this year is more than a popularity contest?

[Pugger]

And watch someone else play in the SB. Just as he watched someone else play in the NFC championship game.

Regular season MVP is a meaningless popularity context. The only MVP that matters is Super Bowl MVP.

And Bart has 2 and Desmond has 1 and Aaron has 1.

Brett won Player of the Year in 1995. Reggie won Player of the Year in 1998. Charles Woodson won Player of the Year in 2009.

Still working on my morning coffee, so excuse me if I'm just really dense. Certainly can't argue with what you said, I just can't quite understand what point you're making. Do the awards listed support or refute the contention that Rodgers' MVP this year is more than a popularity contest?

This is the only place I've ever heard anyone declaring the league MVP award this year is nothing more than a popularity contest. We all think Rodgers will win it but there is also a strong argument for Brady. Brady's numbers this season were a tad better so I won't be surprised to see him win it. Will it still be a popularity contest then?

[paco]

[Drj820]

Hilarious to think Rodgers is Mr Popular with Media MVP voters after being a lighting rod over vaccination issues all season long.

[Labrev]

In retrospect, I wish they held off on MVP voting until after the playoffs conclude. I definitely wonder to what extent Rodgers is content with his individual feats, especially with so many people eager to absolve him of post-season success by just blaming the team for not being "good enough" (never mind that at least three of those teams were definitely good enough to go the distance), and if maybe he would have fought a little harder in the post-season if his accolades were threatened.

[salmar80]

washed up Rodgers is about to win his second MVP in a row guys

And watch someone else play in the SB. Just as he watched someone else play in the NFC championship game.

Regular season MVP is a meaningless popularity context. The only MVP that matters is Super Bowl MVP.

Idea:

The ONLY award given should be the SB MVP award. Maybe CoY to the champion's HC (but only if he doesn't have a great QB or great team that carried him).

Let's just get rid of all the other awards. They go to losers, anyways. And get rid of loser All-Pro and loser Pro Bowl teams completely. SB winners are the real and only All-Pros.

I mean, why honor incredible performances by losers on the 31 loser teams? Or individual achievements of losers in a very tough league? Who cares if you break records if you are a loser and it doesn't lead to a Super Bowl? In fact, why not just throw away all the stats of losers and only record those of the SB winners. Why should we even remember the losers?

When it comes to fans, having fun in a season that ends without a SB win should be strictly prohibited. Cheering for your team should only be allowed when SB win is secured. If you win a SB, you have a one-week window to celebrate, and then you must go back to wallowing in the misery of knowing a repeat is unlikely. After all, the point of being a football fan is to celebrate SB winners, not to have fun following a sport and a team.

[Pugger]

washed up Rodgers is about to win his second MVP in a row guys

And watch someone else play in the SB. Just as he watched someone else play in the NFC championship game.

Regular season MVP is a meaningless popularity context. The only MVP that matters is Super Bowl MVP.

Idea:

The ONLY award given should be the SB MVP award. Maybe CoY to the champion's HC (but only if he doesn't have a great QB or great team that carried him).

Let's just get rid of all the other awards. They go to losers, anyways. And get rid of loser All-Pro and loser Pro Bowl teams completely. SB winners are the real and only All-Pros.

I mean, why honor incredible performances by losers on the 31 loser teams? Or individual achievements of losers in a very tough league? Who cares if you break records if you are a loser and it doesn't lead to a Super Bowl? In fact, why not just throw away all the stats of losers and only record those of the SB winners. Why should we even remember the losers?

When it comes to fans, having fun in a season that ends without a SB win should be strictly prohibited. Cheering for your team should only be allowed when SB win is secured. If you win a SB, you have a one-week window to celebrate, and then you must go back to wallowing in the misery of knowing a repeat is unlikely. After all, the point of being a football fan is to celebrate SB winners, not to have fun following a sport and a team.

I really hope this was a sarcastic post...

[paco]

I'm going to admit it. I'm starting to be swayed.

[wallyuwl]

I'm going to admit it. I'm starting to be swayed.

Hmmm... that last line.

[RingoCStarrQB]

And watch someone else play in the SB. Just as he watched someone else play in the NFC championship game.

Regular season MVP is a meaningless popularity context. The only MVP that matters is Super Bowl MVP.

And Bart has 2 and Desmond has 1 and Aaron has 1.

Brett won Player of the Year in 1995. Reggie won Player of the Year in 1998. Charles Woodson won Player of the Year in 2009.

Still working on my morning coffee, so excuse me if I'm just really dense. Certainly can't argue with what you said, I just can't quite understand what point you're making. Do the awards listed support or refute the contention that Rodgers' MVP this year is more than a popularity contest?

MVP is way more than just a popularity contest........it means what it says........the players performance was the most valuable to some entity (I guess the entity is the team that the player plays on). I was just trying to remind EVERYONE that Player of Year is the award that best measures performance from an individual performance perspective, whereas MVP is from a value (to the team that the player plays on I suppose) perspective.

Aaron Rodgers enabled back to back 13-3 regular seasons.......which is supposedly valuable from a regular season accomplishment perspective (MVP material). Brett, Reggie, and Charles were Players of the Year (individual awards).

GO PACKERS!

[NCF]

And Bart has 2 and Desmond has 1 and Aaron has 1.

Brett won Player of the Year in 1995. Reggie won Player of the Year in 1998. Charles Woodson won Player of the Year in 2009.

Still working on my morning coffee, so excuse me if I'm just really dense. Certainly can't argue with what you said, I just can't quite understand what point you're making. Do the awards listed support or refute the contention that Rodgers' MVP this year is more than a popularity contest?

MVP is way more than just a popularity contest........it means what it says........the players performance was the most valuable to some entity (I guess the entity is the team that the player plays on). I was just trying to remind EVERYONE that Player of Year is the award that best measures performance from an individual performance perspective, whereas MVP is from a value (to the team that the player plays on I suppose) perspective.

Aaron Rodgers enabled back to back 13-3 regular seasons.......which is supposedly valuable from a regular season accomplishment perspective (MVP material). Brett, Reggie, and Charles were Players of the Year (individual awards).

GO PACKERS!

Thanks for clearing that up. I think.

[RingoCStarrQB]

Still working on my morning coffee, so excuse me if I'm just really dense. Certainly can't argue with what you said, I just can't quite understand what point you're making. Do the awards listed support or refute the contention that Rodgers' MVP this year is more than a popularity contest?

MVP is way more than just a popularity contest........it means what it says........the players performance was the most valuable to some entity (I guess the entity is the team that the player plays on). I was just trying to remind EVERYONE that Player of Year is the award that best measures performance from an individual performance perspective, whereas MVP is from a value (to the team that the player plays on I suppose) perspective.

Aaron Rodgers enabled back to back 13-3 regular seasons.......which is supposedly valuable from a regular season accomplishment perspective (MVP material). Brett, Reggie, and Charles were Players of the Year (individual awards).

GO PACKERS!

Thanks for clearing that up. I think.

I just hope Player of the Year isn't a popularity contest ........... if it is then we'd be even more confused.

[salmar80]

MVP is way more than just a popularity contest........it means what it says........the players performance was the most valuable to some entity (I guess the entity is the team that the player plays on). I was just trying to remind EVERYONE that Player of Year is the award that best measures performance from an individual performance perspective, whereas MVP is from a value (to the team that the player plays on I suppose) perspective.

Aaron Rodgers enabled back to back 13-3 regular seasons.......which is supposedly valuable from a regular season accomplishment perspective (MVP material). Brett, Reggie, and Charles were Players of the Year (individual awards).

GO PACKERS!

Thanks for clearing that up. I think.

I just hope Player of the Year isn't a popularity contest ........... if it is then we'd be even more confused.

There is no Player of the Year award.

Only MVP, offensive player of the year and defensive player of the year.

[Pugger]

And Bart has 2 and Desmond has 1 and Aaron has 1.

Brett won Player of the Year in 1995. Reggie won Player of the Year in 1998. Charles Woodson won Player of the Year in 2009.

Still working on my morning coffee, so excuse me if I'm just really dense. Certainly can't argue with what you said, I just can't quite understand what point you're making. Do the awards listed support or refute the contention that Rodgers' MVP this year is more than a popularity contest?

MVP is way more than just a popularity contest........it means what it says........the players performance was the most valuable to some entity (I guess the entity is the team that the player plays on). I was just trying to remind EVERYONE that Player of Year is the award that best measures performance from an individual performance perspective, whereas MVP is from a value (to the team that the player plays on I suppose) perspective.

Aaron Rodgers enabled back to back 13-3 regular seasons.......which is supposedly valuable from a regular season accomplishment perspective (MVP material). Brett, Reggie, and Charles were Players of the Year (individual awards).

GO PACKERS!

Yup. We have to remember the voting for this happened before the playoffs started because these awards are for regular season achievements. AR is the only player in league history to win 4 of these (Manning has 5). How sad that some folks are diminishing this accomplishment just because Rodgers hasn't delivered in the post season for a while now.

[Labrev]

How sad that some folks are diminishing this accomplishment just because Rodgers hasn't delivered in the post season for a while now.

Sad? No, not really.

[Pugger]

How sad that some folks are diminishing this accomplishment just because Rodgers hasn't delivered in the post season for a while now.

Sad? No, not really.

Then we shall agree to disagree. Folks who now are dismissing this accomplishment as insignificant will not be singing that tune once he is playing for someone else or retires. Even tho he has had his struggles in the postseason lately QBs like him don't grow on trees.