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Either way I am glad we have the QB whisperer back in town. Either for Rodgers or for developing Love.
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100%.BF004 wrote: ↑17 Feb 2022 14:01So we'd essentially have to, as an example, cut Adrian Amos in order to hold onto Billy Turner long enough just to trade him for like a 4th-5th round pick.Pckfn23 wrote: ↑17 Feb 2022 13:56Correct. Trades do not go on the books until the New league year begins.BF004 wrote: ↑17 Feb 2022 13:29Bukowski just went through a bunch of trade scenarios, guys like Billy Turner and Za’Darius.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but we’d have to carry their cap hits to the new league year in order to trade them, right?
Essentially hurting ourselves having to cut other guys who maybe we could keep, and just making it infinitely harder to try to tag a guy like Davante. Whether to keep or trade him.
This cap sucks. I suppose if it wasn't this tight, we wouldn't be talking about cutting or trading good players.
It's why I laugh about statements that say the cap is imaginary or downplay the situation we are in. It's not good.
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Gee, for his second season I thought Runyon played pretty well at LG. We could do a whole lot worse...BF004 wrote: ↑17 Feb 2022 11:31I will say as good as our OL appears to be, and as much as they were dinged up, and as good as our RB were. I thought they were quite awful run blocking last year.
I feel like our only big runs came squarely on the shoulders of Jones and Dillon.
Not having Bak, Jenkins, and Myers surely didn't help for a lot it, no so sure on Myers yet. JRJ and Newman never really looked ready for that load just yet. Patrick is fine, but he just was never meant to be the shining star of the interior OL.
However to the contrary, lol, I kind of want to make the OL worse and leaning towards getting rid of Turner. I think he is out playing his contract, at least earning it. But you got a competent 5 with Bak, JRJ, Myers, Newman, Jenkins, whether you try Jenkins or Newman at RT, doesn't matter a ton. We do got Nijman coming back (maybe try him at RT too), and a draft and few other young guys we have been developing. I guess I just feel more comfortable with that than I would getting rid of a Lowry or Amos where we really don't have other options right now.
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He wasn’t a liability but I certainly wouldn’t classify his play as ‘well’.Pugger wrote: ↑17 Feb 2022 17:19Gee, for his second season I thought Runyon played pretty well at LG. We could do a whole lot worse...BF004 wrote: ↑17 Feb 2022 11:31I will say as good as our OL appears to be, and as much as they were dinged up, and as good as our RB were. I thought they were quite awful run blocking last year.
I feel like our only big runs came squarely on the shoulders of Jones and Dillon.
Not having Bak, Jenkins, and Myers surely didn't help for a lot it, no so sure on Myers yet. JRJ and Newman never really looked ready for that load just yet. Patrick is fine, but he just was never meant to be the shining star of the interior OL.
However to the contrary, lol, I kind of want to make the OL worse and leaning towards getting rid of Turner. I think he is out playing his contract, at least earning it. But you got a competent 5 with Bak, JRJ, Myers, Newman, Jenkins, whether you try Jenkins or Newman at RT, doesn't matter a ton. We do got Nijman coming back (maybe try him at RT too), and a draft and few other young guys we have been developing. I guess I just feel more comfortable with that than I would getting rid of a Lowry or Amos where we really don't have other options right now.
I mean expectations shouldn’t be high for a 2nd year 6th rounder, but he was okay. All the reason in the word to be excited, but he wasn’t even average this year, particularly in run blocking.
I disagree. As the season went on, he was arguably our best OL. The future is extremely bright with him.BF004 wrote: ↑17 Feb 2022 17:47He wasn’t a liability but I certainly wouldn’t classify his play as ‘well’.Pugger wrote: ↑17 Feb 2022 17:19Gee, for his second season I thought Runyon played pretty well at LG. We could do a whole lot worse...BF004 wrote: ↑17 Feb 2022 11:31I will say as good as our OL appears to be, and as much as they were dinged up, and as good as our RB were. I thought they were quite awful run blocking last year.
I feel like our only big runs came squarely on the shoulders of Jones and Dillon.
Not having Bak, Jenkins, and Myers surely didn't help for a lot it, no so sure on Myers yet. JRJ and Newman never really looked ready for that load just yet. Patrick is fine, but he just was never meant to be the shining star of the interior OL.
However to the contrary, lol, I kind of want to make the OL worse and leaning towards getting rid of Turner. I think he is out playing his contract, at least earning it. But you got a competent 5 with Bak, JRJ, Myers, Newman, Jenkins, whether you try Jenkins or Newman at RT, doesn't matter a ton. We do got Nijman coming back (maybe try him at RT too), and a draft and few other young guys we have been developing. I guess I just feel more comfortable with that than I would getting rid of a Lowry or Amos where we really don't have other options right now.
I mean expectations shouldn’t be high for a 2nd year 6th rounder, but he was okay. All the reason in the word to be excited, but he wasn’t even average this year, particularly in run blocking.
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I was a huge Runyan skeptic at the start of the year, but as the year went on, I believe he played well, call it above average.NCF wrote: ↑17 Feb 2022 18:58I disagree. As the season went on, he was arguably our best OL. The future is extremely bright with him.BF004 wrote: ↑17 Feb 2022 17:47He wasn’t a liability but I certainly wouldn’t classify his play as ‘well’.
I mean expectations shouldn’t be high for a 2nd year 6th rounder, but he was okay. All the reason in the word to be excited, but he wasn’t even average this year, particularly in run blocking.
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I didn't see any guy on the OL regularly win in the run game like we have the past two years.NCF wrote: ↑17 Feb 2022 18:58I disagree. As the season went on, he was arguably our best OL. The future is extremely bright with him.BF004 wrote: ↑17 Feb 2022 17:47He wasn’t a liability but I certainly wouldn’t classify his play as ‘well’.
I mean expectations shouldn’t be high for a 2nd year 6th rounder, but he was okay. All the reason in the word to be excited, but he wasn’t even average this year, particularly in run blocking.
just seems like a move that points to the team seriously wanting Rodgers back. What other sides are there?
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Yeah, not sure what to say about it that has not already been said: happy he's back -- I think he was a pretty good QBs coach --, and this seems like a move to coax Rodgers back...
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You people will debate anything. But Clements back and everyone is like, whatever. Just funny is all.
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Probably the best QB Coach hire we could make at this point.
Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."
A good hire for AR or Love or a 2023 pick.
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I was shocked to see Clements will be back in town.
1) It's a great hire. By all accounts, he's a heck of a QB whisperer.
2) In theory, this will help the Packers keep Rodgers if that's what they want to do.
3) This should be good for Love's (and Benkert's) development.
I still think Rodgers is gone though; I'm at about 20% stays vs. 80% gone.
1) It's a great hire. By all accounts, he's a heck of a QB whisperer.
2) In theory, this will help the Packers keep Rodgers if that's what they want to do.
3) This should be good for Love's (and Benkert's) development.
I still think Rodgers is gone though; I'm at about 20% stays vs. 80% gone.
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No doubt.
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