Aaron Rodgers V2022

[British]

The Adams trade also suggests Rodgers is in for the next 3 years.

If he was thinking just one more year it's unlikely he'd have been happy to sign, knowing Adams was about to be traded for picks.

Those picks, if we use them on rookies, may not fully bear fruit in 2022, but could be hitting their stride in '23 and '24.

The Adams trade sets the table for the Rodgers window.

[RingoCStarrQB]

The Adams trade also suggests Rodgers is in for the next 3 years.

If he was thinking just one more year it's unlikely he'd have been happy to sign, knowing Adams was about to be traded for picks.

Those picks, if we use them on rookies, may not fully bear fruit in 2022, but could be hitting their stride in '23 and '24.

The Adams trade sets the table for the Rodgers window.

May we now discuss at extreme length and in extreme depth THE RODGERS WINDOW ............. pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeese.

[APB]

The Adams trade also suggests Rodgers is in for the next 3 years.

If he was thinking just one more year it's unlikely he'd have been happy to sign, knowing Adams was about to be traded for picks.

Those picks, if we use them on rookies, may not fully bear fruit in 2022, but could be hitting their stride in '23 and '24.

The Adams trade sets the table for the Rodgers window.

Conversely, if Rodgers made Adams aware of a hypothetical intent to retire after another year or two, that may have weighed heavily on DA's decision to play elsewhere.

[Scott4Pack]

The Adams trade also suggests Rodgers is in for the next 3 years.

If he was thinking just one more year it's unlikely he'd have been happy to sign, knowing Adams was about to be traded for picks.

Those picks, if we use them on rookies, may not fully bear fruit in 2022, but could be hitting their stride in '23 and '24.

The Adams trade sets the table for the Rodgers window.

May we now discuss at extreme length and in extreme depth THE RODGERS WINDOW ............. pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeese.

Yes!
:-)

If you mean, would he play 2 more years, 3 more years, etc?

I see him playing in GB until he retires. He'd only have reasons to leave if he found a deal like Brady had in TB or Manning in Denver. We'll see if that develops. Otherwise, I do think he's chasing Brady a little bit, in his own mind. You know, in the GOAT discussion. Maybe he will play as long as his body allows, if it allows him to another Super Bowl or two.

Now if you want to discuss how long this Packers team will keep the talent under the cap to play at that high of a level, that's another thing.

[Yoop]

The Adams trade also suggests Rodgers is in for the next 3 years.

If he was thinking just one more year it's unlikely he'd have been happy to sign, knowing Adams was about to be traded for picks.

Those picks, if we use them on rookies, may not fully bear fruit in 2022, but could be hitting their stride in '23 and '24.

The Adams trade sets the table for the Rodgers window.

Conversely, if Rodgers made Adams aware of a hypothetical intent to retire after another year or two, that may have weighed heavily on DA's decision to play elsewhere.

I didn't know anyone took those comments seriously, least wise Adams.

[British]

Silverstein on why we may not be done with Rodgers trade speculation next year.

Ingalls getting top billing from Packers beat reporters.

https://eu.packersnews.com/story/sports ... 068574001/

[paco]

Silverstein on why we may not be done with Rodgers trade speculation next year.

Ingalls getting top billing from Packers beat reporters.

https://eu.packersnews.com/story/sports ... 068574001/

Gotta pay for the story. But this is what Brandt has been saying too. We're going to have drama year after year with him until he's gone, and even then probably more.

[Scott4Pack]

Silverstein on why we may not be done with Rodgers trade speculation next year.

Ingalls getting top billing from Packers beat reporters.

https://eu.packersnews.com/story/sports ... 068574001/

Gotta pay for the story. But this is what Brandt has been saying too. We're going to have drama year after year with him until he's gone, and even then probably more.

Isn’t that inevitable at this point. Even if Rodgers goes into a cave next spring and doesn’t appear until TC, the media is gonna be all hyped about the speculation of whatever he’ll do.

[British]

Silverstein on why we may not be done with Rodgers trade speculation next year.

Ingalls getting top billing from Packers beat reporters.

https://eu.packersnews.com/story/sports ... 068574001/

Gotta pay for the story. But this is what Brandt has been saying too. We're going to have drama year after year with him until he's gone, and even then probably more.

Brandt seems to talk about Rodgers having an 'out'. That doesn't seem to be the case, he can retire of course, but not become a free agent.

I'll paste the relevant little section:

"If they trade Rodgers before his $58.3 million option bonus is due — bonuses like that usually are usually paid the third day of the league year, in mid-March — then his new team would pick up the tab. The Packers would then have moved on after paying less than half ($42 million) of the $101 million guarantee.

"Such a move would leave the Packers with a $40.3 million dead-cap charge in 2023....The hit is not prohibitive for a Packers team that would be turning to a quarterback still on his cheap rookie contract (Jordan Love), and with the prospect of the salary cap going up as much as 15 percent for each of the next few years."

[Yoop]

Conspiracy corner seems like Andy Brandts new haven.

this whole thing started with Rodgers unsure of being able to retire as a Packer once Gute Drafted his potential replacement, and if not then he wanted to go where he could finish his career with more then just a 1 or 2 year window, so this last contract does that, so why would he want to leave after this season, imo these scenarios Brandt and others are saying make no sense at all, same with this retirement talk, he just said last year or so that he wants to play 4 or 5 more years.

I do believe though that the media will invent whatever they need to to keep the Rodgers drama going till he does retire however long that may be, Rodgers controversy alone could float several sports news outlets

heck right here we have 6 live threads, 270 pages, which comes to about 3000 post about Aaron Rodgers,, we'll have AR on the brain half way through eternity, isn't it wonderful to be a Packer fan

[British]

Conspiracy corner seems like Andy Brandts new haven.

this whole thing started with Rodgers unsure of being able to retire as a Packer once Gute Drafted his potential replacement, and if not then he wanted to go where he could finish his career with more then just a 1 or 2 year window, so this last contract does that, so why would he want to leave after this season, imo these scenarios Brandt and others are saying make no sense at all, same with this retirement talk, he just said last year or so that he wants to play 4 or 5 more years.

I do believe though that the media will invent whatever they need to to keep the Rodgers drama going till he does retire however long that may be, Rodgers controversy alone could float several sports news outlets

heck right here we have 6 live threads, 270 pages, which comes to about 3000 post about Aaron Rodgers,, we'll have AR on the brain half way through eternity, isn't it wonderful to be a Packer fan

Agree. I think Rodgers wants to be a Packer for 20 years. If he didn't want to leave this year for Denver, when he knew he might be losing Davante, I doubt he'll want to go ever.

The only trade scenario is if Love breaks out and the Packers decide he's the future.

[Foosball]

Brandt is merely pointing out a possible scenario. An option btw, I’d be fine with. Love would have had his 3rd season sitting behind a HOFer.

I’m not saying it will happen though.

[bud fox]

Yeah the talk from Brandt was dumb and came across as uninformed.

It was like he didn't really read the details on the contract and just wanted to get on screen to show face.

[Drj820]

Yeah the talk from Brandt was dumb and came across as uninformed.

It was like he didn't really read the details on the contract and just wanted to get on screen to show face.

Brandt needs to learn when to hold em, fold em, or walk away.

He looked really smart last year when he came out strong that the team wouldnt trade 12. Then, he got some buzz based on being correct on that and has since been wrong about everything. If he would have just laid low instead of doubling down he could have maintained some mystique.

[Scott4Pack]

You guys are kidding about Brandt, right? Gosh, the guy has made a pretty good living doing the things that he wrote about. And pretty much all of what Ive seen him write, he’s been correct. The exception is that the Pack didn’t trade Rodgers THIS year. Yet, according to many that I’m seeing, the contract is set so that GB can trade Rodgers NEXT year. Then, Brandt would only have the timing wrong, but not the anticipation of Rodgers being traded.

Honestly, take your pick of who you want to listen to.

The first guy (Brandt) is a guy who worked the contracts for the Packers and other teams. He had intimate, daily, working knowledge of the motives of the GMs and staffs.

The second guy is me or you who play GM from our couch and have never been a janitor for an NFL team, let alone a GM.

When that first guy writes about what he thinks is going to happen, HE is the guy I’m gonna listen to. It doesn’t mean he’s right every time. But he should easily know a lot more of the reality than I or you guys ever will.

[Drj820]

You guys are kidding about Brandt, right? Gosh, the guy has made a pretty good living doing the things that he wrote about. And pretty much all of what Ive seen him write, he’s been correct. The exception is that the Pack didn’t trade Rodgers THIS year. Yet, according to many that I’m seeing, the contract is set so that GB can trade Rodgers NEXT year. Then, Brandt would only have the timing wrong, but not the anticipation of Rodgers being traded.

Honestly, take your pick of who you want to listen to.

The first guy (Brandt) is a guy who worked the contracts for the Packers and other teams. He had intimate, daily, working knowledge of the motives of the GMs and staffs.

The second guy is me or you who play GM from our couch and have never been a janitor for an NFL team, let alone a GM.

When that first guy writes about what he thinks is going to happen, HE is the guy I’m gonna listen to. It doesn’t mean he’s right every time. But he should easily know a lot more of the reality than I or you guys ever will.

Nothing against Brandt but like anyone he can swing and miss. His experience in the FO was over a decade ago. Times have rapidly change. He’s a well intentioned boomer.

[Yoop]

first two years have guaranteed money, 101.5 mil guaranteed, wishful thinking on Brandts end, he wanted us to trade Rodgers from the start, now he's creating a scenario for it to happen, I love how people rush in to defend Brandt, he's no different then any other social news person, I'll believe what he says after it happens.

Rodger's new contract will reportedly pay him $150.8 million USD over the next three years, which averages to more than $50 million USD per year. The terms of his contract are fully guaranteed in the first two years of his contract extension, paying him over $42 million in 2022 and just above $59.5 million USD in 2023.5 days ago

[Pugger]

You guys are kidding about Brandt, right? Gosh, the guy has made a pretty good living doing the things that he wrote about. And pretty much all of what Ive seen him write, he’s been correct. The exception is that the Pack didn’t trade Rodgers THIS year. Yet, according to many that I’m seeing, the contract is set so that GB can trade Rodgers NEXT year. Then, Brandt would only have the timing wrong, but not the anticipation of Rodgers being traded.

Honestly, take your pick of who you want to listen to.

The first guy (Brandt) is a guy who worked the contracts for the Packers and other teams. He had intimate, daily, working knowledge of the motives of the GMs and staffs.

The second guy is me or you who play GM from our couch and have never been a janitor for an NFL team, let alone a GM.

When that first guy writes about what he thinks is going to happen, HE is the guy I’m gonna listen to. It doesn’t mean he’s right every time. But he should easily know a lot more of the reality than I or you guys ever will.

Nothing against Brandt but like anyone he can swing and miss. His experience in the FO was over a decade ago. Times have rapidly change. He’s a well intentioned boomer.

Unless he has someone inside 1265 giving him info he is just speculating like every other media type out there. If Rodgers knew there was a good chance Adams was going elsewhere and still signed an extension with us I don't see him going anywhere else until he retires. Of course AR is gonna get the "when is he gonna retire" saga every offseason from here on out like Favre did back in the day.

[paco]

Last I'm saying on this or on Brandt. But here's from his latest newsletter on Sunday.

3. What I’m thinking about Aaron Rodgers contract numbers…

I actually really do want to stop talking about Aaron, but now that the contract structure is out, it screams out for me to be the contrarian once again. While reports blare about guarantees of $150 million over three years, I view this contract as a one-year deal for $42 million. Next year, in 2023, there are two guaranteed option bonuses, but these bonuses (1) only trigger if exercised, and (2) travel to a new team upon a trade.

With this option bonus structure, the dead money actually goes up, not down, the longer the contract goes on. Were Rodgers to retire or be traded before the option next year, there would be roughly $40 million of dead money but credit of $59 million in non-exercised bonuses. If he were to play again for the Packers next year, the dead money would rise to never-seen proportions. The Packers knew this in negotiating this contract, as did Rodgers agent. In my humble opinion, this contract suggests a one and done for Rodgers and Jordan Love will ascend to the Packers starting quarterback job after three years of apprenticeship, the same term that Aaron waited years ago.

Wouldn't mind a list of experts or analysts that you guys actually believe. Every damn person I'm posted info from this year is laughed off as irrelevant, dumb, a boomer, or you haven't heard of them. Is there anyone worth listening to? Because it sure isn't any of you.

[Scott4Pack]

You guys are kidding about Brandt, right? Gosh, the guy has made a pretty good living doing the things that he wrote about. And pretty much all of what Ive seen him write, he’s been correct. The exception is that the Pack didn’t trade Rodgers THIS year. Yet, according to many that I’m seeing, the contract is set so that GB can trade Rodgers NEXT year. Then, Brandt would only have the timing wrong, but not the anticipation of Rodgers being traded.

Honestly, take your pick of who you want to listen to.

The first guy (Brandt) is a guy who worked the contracts for the Packers and other teams. He had intimate, daily, working knowledge of the motives of the GMs and staffs.

The second guy is me or you who play GM from our couch and have never been a janitor for an NFL team, let alone a GM.

When that first guy writes about what he thinks is going to happen, HE is the guy I’m gonna listen to. It doesn’t mean he’s right every time. But he should easily know a lot more of the reality than I or you guys ever will.

Nothing against Brandt but like anyone he can swing and miss. His experience in the FO was over a decade ago. Times have rapidly change. He’s a well intentioned boomer.

I hear ya. But the philosophy from Wolfe to Thompson to Guty has hardly changed. The three of them would concur that you “draft a round 1 guy to play him.” That has been the basis of Brandts opining about this all along. And nothing has proven him wrong on that particular point.