Rank the Roster 2022: #18

[Waldo]

Rank The Roster: 2022 Edition

1. Aaron Rodgers (62%)[--]
2. Kenny Clark (43%)[+3]
3. Jaire Alexander (44%)[--]
4. David Bakhtiari (40%)[--]
5. Elgton Jenkins (29%)[+3]
6. Rashan Gary (51%)[+4]
7. DeVondre Campbell (51%)[+26]
8. Aaron Jones (53%)[-1]
9. Adrian Amos (40%)[--]
10. Eric Stokes (41%)[+10]
11. AJ Dillon (42%)[+5]
12. Preston Smith (52%)[+2]
13. Rasul Douglas (42%)[+29]
14. Darnell Savage (42%)[-1]
15. Alan Lazard (33%)[+5]
16. Josh Myers (20%)[+3]
17. Sammy Watkins (23%)[FA]
18. Current (xx%)[--]

Percent of vote the winner got will be in parenthesis, position change vs. 2019 will be in brackets.

Here's how this works:

Each day there is a new thread/poll, starting at #1, on down to whereever we get. The whole point of this exercise is to have something to talk about in the lean news months to carry us to camp. Each poll will be open for voting for 24 hours. New threads will only be created on weekdays. Ties will cause a runoff poll. You may vote up to TWO players (a change that was made mid-poll last year, seemed to work well).

Simply voting is not enough!

Post why you voted for who you did and provide a player to add to the next poll (every poll will be a list of 15-20 guys, new players added in bunches every few days).

Here's the thing. There is no criteria. This is an exercise to foster discussion therefore there are no clear criteria for ranking. Who is better right now? Who will have the best season? Who was better last year? Sort of a combo of them all? Do you take positional value into account? It really doesn't matter.

Previous Years:
Rank the Roster: 2021
Rank the Roster: 2020
Rank the Roster: 2014-2019

[Backthepack4ever]

I've been on the Wyatt train for a few picks now. It's about upside but he's going to get snaps and expected to produce. At this point I
the voting Getting plus play next to KC might be the biggest difference in a trip to the SB or getting bounced

[Pugger]

<---- Runyan

[Yoop]

Runyan and Tonyan, probably be Tonyans best season as a Packer TE

[Backthepack4ever]

Runyan and Tonyan, probably be Tonyans best season as a Packer TE

Idk Big Bob had a pretty epic 2020. Going to be hard to top. Coming off injury missing Adams and a full TE room (not saying any are great). I think he will be good but the TDs won't match

[Labrev]

Joe Barry runs a LB-friendly scheme and clearly has big plans for Quay Walker, so big that they made him the first linebacker selected in the whole ass draft, and ofc our first selection. I wager ILB2 will be a lot more of a factor than before; our new defense has changed our mindset about the LB position.

He will be a stud for us this year. We should have been voting for him back at 15 or so.

[go pak go]

Went Runyan and Tunyan.

Overall I think this board overstated the quality of our Olinemen last year. But at the same time, I also think there is a slight understatement of Jon Runyan's play. Honestly Jenkins and Runyan are the only two players on the Oline last year that I would say had a great year. And I think Jenkins had a better year in 2020 than he did in 2021.

But man...Jon Runyan was great last year. And if he takes that next jump...this guy is the next Packers long line of IOL Day 3 draft picks that is just a smash of a selection.

[TheSkeptic]

Chose Runyan #1

I will keep rotating between the rookies and Tonyan until they are all gone from now on. I think it is a coin flip on them.

I think all 3 rookies are going to be major contributors. Quay and Christain will be full time starters and Wyatt will be in the top rotation.

The top Dline rotation will be Clark, TJ, and Lowry. Reed is probably #4 but it would not surprise me if he rarely plays. Guys who came to the Packers on a 1 year prove it contract failed on their previous teams and the Rasul Douglas's are rare.

[YoHoChecko]

Went Runyan and Tunyan.

Overall I think this board overstated the quality of our Olinemen last year. But at the same time, I also think there is a slight understatement of Jon Runyan's play. Honestly Jenkins and Runyan are the only two players on the Oline last year that I would say had a great year. And I think Jenkins had a better year in 2020 than he did in 2021.

But man...Jon Runyan was great last year. And if he takes that next jump...this guy is the next Packers long line of IOL Day 3 draft picks that is just a smash of a selection.

I voted the same. I have been for like 3 days, though, haha.

What's wild about this Day 3 success is how easy they are to identify. Like, if you know what the Packers have typically looked for, and look to replicate that, you will find these guys. I touted JRJ as the "safest Day 3 pick in the draft" and perfect for GB. Everyone and their mother knew Zach Tom was a perfect fit for the Packers this year. Not Day Three, but I probably would have noticed Sean Rhyan, too, if I had even looked at him at all (not sure where my oversight was there, but I'm going to guess it's that I hate UCLA). Royce Newman was on the very edges, if not a teensy bit outside the parameters, so he didn't stand out as much, and for a couple years during COVID, there were a lot of guys we didn't have numbers on (mind you, a group that has not fared as well).

But the point is, these guys are easy to spot and there's a good track record of success and it's wild that we can keep getting away with selecting them when there are legitimately only a handful of really good fits each year.

[BF004]

Just for comparison here on Quay, Wyatt and Watson.

2021
Josh Myers - 19
Erik Stokes - 20

2020
AJ Dillon - 21

2019
Darnell Savage - 16
Rashan Gary - 20
Elgton Jenkins - 24

2018
Jaire Alexander - 16

2017
Kevin King - 21

2016
Kenny Clark - 22

2015
Damarious Randall - 24

2014
HaHa Clinton-Dix - 20
Davante Adams - 30

[go pak go]

Went Runyan and Tunyan.

Overall I think this board overstated the quality of our Olinemen last year. But at the same time, I also think there is a slight understatement of Jon Runyan's play. Honestly Jenkins and Runyan are the only two players on the Oline last year that I would say had a great year. And I think Jenkins had a better year in 2020 than he did in 2021.

But man...Jon Runyan was great last year. And if he takes that next jump...this guy is the next Packers long line of IOL Day 3 draft picks that is just a smash of a selection.

I voted the same. I have been for like 3 days, though, haha.

What's wild about this Day 3 success is how easy they are to identify. Like, if you know what the Packers have typically looked for, and look to replicate that, you will find these guys. I touted JRJ as the "safest Day 3 pick in the draft" and perfect for GB. Everyone and their mother knew Zach Tom was a perfect fit for the Packers this year. Not Day Three, but I probably would have noticed Sean Rhyan, too, if I had even looked at him at all (not sure where my oversight was there, but I'm going to guess it's that I hate UCLA). Royce Newman was on the very edges, if not a teensy bit outside the parameters, so he didn't stand out as much, and for a couple years during COVID, there were a lot of guys we didn't have numbers on (mind you, a group that has not fared as well).

But the point is, these guys are easy to spot and there's a good track record of success and it's wild that we can keep getting away with selecting them when there are legitimately only a handful of really good fits each year.

Yeah. I loved Rhyan a lot this year. I was hopeful he would last till Round 3 and was happy when he did. Was sort of hoping we could have made a RT out of him but will be happy either way.

We do seem to get away with these a lot but to be fair, we also have our misses. The last late round success I can really remember is Linsely and that was already back in 2014. 8 years ago.

We thought Cole Madison may have been that guy but then he never suited up. Gute didn't take on in 2019 and then took the lot in 2020 and went 1 for 3. (Hanson still has a chance)

So though it looks like we have found a magic formula, we aren't maybe successful enough to get the rest of the league to notice. We seem to play a volume game and get lucky when we really need someone to step up. Could be attribute to awesome coaching as well.

Our guys just do better here than they do other places.

[YoHoChecko]

We thought Cole Madison may have been that guy but then he never suited up. Gute didn't take on in 2019 and then took the lot in 2020 and went 1 for 3. (Hanson still has a chance)

So though it looks like we have found a magic formula, we aren't maybe successful enough to get the rest of the league to notice. We seem to play a volume game and get lucky when we really need someone to step up. Could be attribute to awesome coaching as well.

Our guys just do better here than they do other places.

Cole Madison is a stark outlier to everything we draft, measurably. He never fit the formula and we should have always been skeptical of the pick, even without the mental health stuff. Then Simon Stepaniak and Hansen came in without any testing.

We don't always get the guy, but "LT experience in college and a certain baseline of athletic measurables across multiple categories" has an outstanding track record. The reason I glommed onto JRJ that year was because he was basically the ONLY Day Three guy that fit.

Obviously there are still some misses, but if you stick to the formula, the track record is really outstanding. Madison wasn't that, and neither were Stepaniak or Hansen.

[Waldo]

Went Runyan and Tunyan.

Overall I think this board overstated the quality of our Olinemen last year. But at the same time, I also think there is a slight understatement of Jon Runyan's play. Honestly Jenkins and Runyan are the only two players on the Oline last year that I would say had a great year. And I think Jenkins had a better year in 2020 than he did in 2021.

But man...Jon Runyan was great last year. And if he takes that next jump...this guy is the next Packers long line of IOL Day 3 draft picks that is just a smash of a selection.

I voted the same. I have been for like 3 days, though, haha.

What's wild about this Day 3 success is how easy they are to identify. Like, if you know what the Packers have typically looked for, and look to replicate that, you will find these guys. I touted JRJ as the "safest Day 3 pick in the draft" and perfect for GB. Everyone and their mother knew Zach Tom was a perfect fit for the Packers this year. Not Day Three, but I probably would have noticed Sean Rhyan, too, if I had even looked at him at all (not sure where my oversight was there, but I'm going to guess it's that I hate UCLA). Royce Newman was on the very edges, if not a teensy bit outside the parameters, so he didn't stand out as much, and for a couple years during COVID, there were a lot of guys we didn't have numbers on (mind you, a group that has not fared as well).

But the point is, these guys are easy to spot and there's a good track record of success and it's wild that we can keep getting away with selecting them when there are legitimately only a handful of really good fits each year.

Weirdly it seems no other team has caught on either. Like we've long since cracked the Packers OL code, how they just keep pumping out the mid round gems, and can ID them readily.

[Waldo]

Just for comparison here on Quay, Wyatt and Watson.

2021
Josh Myers - 19
Erik Stokes - 20

2020
AJ Dillon - 21

2019
Darnell Savage - 16
Rashan Gary - 20
Elgton Jenkins - 24

2018
Jaire Alexander - 16

2017
Kevin King - 21

2016
Kenny Clark - 22

2015
Damarious Randall - 24

2014
HaHa Clinton-Dix - 20
Davante Adams - 30

Of those I think Myers, Savage, and Clinton-Dix were the only day 1 starters (this time of year), though obv Stokes, Alexander, King, and Randall would be heavily involved due to being CB's. Most figured Jenkins would be a starter quickly. Gary, Clark, and Randall were expected to take a little extra time.

I guess its saying something good about the team's talent that Quay is an expected starter at a position that typically does well as rookies and he's still on the board at #19. Not as much lately, but it used to be the bulk of rookie DPOY's were off the ball linebackers (7 of 10 in the 2000-2009 timeframe). He has to be one of the current favorites for rookie DPOY by virtue of starting at a good position for it, and being first taken in the draft at his position. People should be pretty stoked about Quay.

[BF004]

Something I noticed too, when we were really good, 2014, 2015, the rookies were ranked pretty low.

Then 2016, 17, 18, they kept creeping up an turns out we were a bad team.

Then have they are creeping down again. We have 3 top guys, 2 penciled in as starters, and we'll be lucky if any of them end up in the top 20.

[Pckfn23]

After Runyan, Lowry, then the top 3 rookies. As for Wyatt, I would be very surprised if his role is greater than Kenny Clark's was when he was a rookie.

[Waldo]

After Runyan, Lowry, then the top 3 rookies. As for Wyatt, I would be very surprised if his role is greater than Kenny Clark's was when he was a rookie.

Maybe. Remember Clark was super young, most figured he'd need a season.

But, rookie DT's almost never make a big splash. Raji was just a rotational guy that came in on 3rd downs; made a couple nice plays but certainly not worth top 20 on this as a rookie.