Rank the Roster 2022: #24

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Who are the two next best players on the Packers?

Poll ended at 27 Jun 2022 22:08

Krys Barnes
0
No votes
Royce Newman
7
22%
Randall Cobb
9
28%
Jordan Love
0
No votes
Marcedes Lewis
4
13%
Tyler Davis
0
No votes
Ty Summers
0
No votes
Kingsley Enagbare
0
No votes
Yosh Nijman
6
19%
Jarran Reed
3
9%
Amari Rodgers
0
No votes
Josiah Deguara
0
No votes
Kylin Hill
0
No votes
Dominique Dafney
0
No votes
Sean Rhyan
0
No votes
Romeo Doubs
0
No votes
TJ Slaton
3
9%
 
Total votes: 32

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salmar80 wrote:
27 Jun 2022 11:19
go pak go wrote:
27 Jun 2022 11:13
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27 Jun 2022 10:53


I have a really hard time determining that pecking order behind Kenny. I also am unsure about the degree of specialization they will use. Reed seems like a guy they signed for 3rd-downs. Will he get base snaps/run stop snaps with Dean/Slaton/Wyatt? I don't really see it right now.

Another thing that hasn't been discussed at all is, due to our lack of depth at EDGE, will we use more 3-man lines and/or sprinkle in Lowry/Reed/Wyatt in at EDGE in certain looks. That would definitely make him more valuable.
I really hope we use more heavy sets with 3 DL's and go away with the 2 DL's. It wouldn't make much such for us to have 2 DL's with our defense.
Reed's 1 year, $3,250,000 contract combined with us drafting a pass rushing DL in the 1st round don't exactly scream "TONS OF SNAPS". But this is his last opportunity to earn a longer term paycheck from somebody, and he has had some very productive years... I'm not voting for him yet, but would love for him to be another Guty bargain find...
exactly, Reed was a insurance signing, there is not even one including Kenny C that has the athletic ability or first step get off of Wyatt and we have to be more focused on pass rush then stopping the run, Wyatt was ranked to go in the teens by a bunch of scouts and draft people, sure it might take him a couple games to get going, but he comes from a very pro style college defense, which will or should make him more ready to play.

imo when you have two quality ILB's with coverage skills you can play more base sets, the ability to cover dictates so many other things and, being last against the run really sounds worse then it actually is unless your offense is actually anemic, we didn't draft Walker and Wyatt specially to stop the run, more so to increase pass rush and coverage, just my opinion.

I went with Cobb, still a very deceptive short yardage chain mover, and Newman will be a tough player to bench, he does both pass pro and run blocking pretty good and he's bound to improve over last year, Bosa gives every lineman fits

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Viable picks:

Cobb - He's pretty good & useful when he isn't injured. (But I predict he'll miss at least 5 games)

Nijman - He didn't get the shot he earned in the playoffs.

Lewis - On blocking alone, he's better than Newman!

TJ Slaton - The potential is there and it's obvious.

Reed - Good track record.


Can't vote for:

Newman - He had an entire season to figure out stunts and he couldn't do it.

Love - I'm down until he shows something in preseason.

Amari - Need to see lots of improvement.
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I also hope that the Packers play 3 down linemen most of the time.

Regarding slot receiver. It could be Lazard, he makes a lot of sense as a hybrid Slot WR/TE. It could be Wilkins, he has the quickness and savvy to be good at it. It could be Doubs. It could be Ameri Rodgers. It could be Winfree or Taylor. It could even be Samori Toure or Danny Davis.

Or, Tyler Davis or even Deguara might step up and the Packers play a lot of 2 TE's.

But it won't be Cobb. He is slow, he is 32, he is injury prone and I am very skeptical that the Packers cut a prime ST player to keep Cobb. The Packers are bringing 10 WR's and 7 TE's to the preseason. Somebody will be a pleasant surprise and Cobb will be cut.

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TheSkeptic wrote:
27 Jun 2022 13:00

But it won't be Cobb. He is slow, he is 32, he is injury prone and I am very skeptical that the Packers cut a prime ST player to keep Cobb. The Packers are bringing 10 WR's and 7 TE's to the preseason. Somebody will be a pleasant surprise and Cobb will be cut.
And you thought Rodgers was mad when Kumerow was cut....
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go pak go wrote:
27 Jun 2022 13:14
TheSkeptic wrote:
27 Jun 2022 13:00

But it won't be Cobb. He is slow, he is 32, he is injury prone and I am very skeptical that the Packers cut a prime ST player to keep Cobb. The Packers are bringing 10 WR's and 7 TE's to the preseason. Somebody will be a pleasant surprise and Cobb will be cut.
And you thought Rodgers was mad when Kumerow was cut....
He was mad when Jordy got cut also. But they still cut him - because he lost a step from that ACL. Cobb has also lost a step from accumulated injuries and he was never fast.

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TheSkeptic wrote:
27 Jun 2022 13:00
I also hope that the Packers play 3 down linemen most of the time.

Regarding slot receiver. It could be Lazard, he makes a lot of sense as a hybrid Slot WR/TE. It could be Wilkins, he has the quickness and savvy to be good at it. It could be Doubs. It could be Ameri Rodgers. It could be Winfree or Taylor. It could even be Samori Toure or Danny Davis.

Or, Tyler Davis or even Deguara might step up and the Packers play a lot of 2 TE's.

But it won't be Cobb. He is slow, he is 32, he is injury prone and I am very skeptical that the Packers cut a prime ST player to keep Cobb. The Packers are bringing 10 WR's and 7 TE's to the preseason. Somebody will be a pleasant surprise and Cobb will be cut.
ahhhh, slow? half of Cobbs almost 400 yrds last year where yac yards, he only had about 25 or so catchs but 21 went for 1st downs, and no one on your list does the stop and go route better, I think your short changing ol Cobb here, just a bit, to bad he's down to about half a season of game health, 13.9 yrds a reception is prof to me he isn't that slow :aok:

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TheSkeptic wrote:
27 Jun 2022 13:19
go pak go wrote:
27 Jun 2022 13:14
TheSkeptic wrote:
27 Jun 2022 13:00

But it won't be Cobb. He is slow, he is 32, he is injury prone and I am very skeptical that the Packers cut a prime ST player to keep Cobb. The Packers are bringing 10 WR's and 7 TE's to the preseason. Somebody will be a pleasant surprise and Cobb will be cut.
And you thought Rodgers was mad when Kumerow was cut....
He was mad when Jordy got cut also. But they still cut him - because he lost a step from that ACL. Cobb has also lost a step from accumulated injuries and he was never fast.
And all that led up to Rodgers holding out the last year.

The Packers aren't poking the bear again.
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go pak go wrote:
27 Jun 2022 13:42
TheSkeptic wrote:
27 Jun 2022 13:19
go pak go wrote:
27 Jun 2022 13:14


And you thought Rodgers was mad when Kumerow was cut....
He was mad when Jordy got cut also. But they still cut him - because he lost a step from that ACL. Cobb has also lost a step from accumulated injuries and he was never fast.
And all that led up to Rodgers holding out the last year.

The Packers aren't poking the bear again.
I think the problem was not that the Packers cut Jordy, it was how they did it, without respect. I think that the Packers should have kept Kumerow because he was better than the guy they kept, and Rodgers would have told them that. But the main problem was that they did not ask Rodgers for input and they did not give him a heads up.

So supposing they do, they ask him for input and they explain to him their thinking:
Lazard, Wilkins and Watson are the top 3.
Winfree and Taylor are core ST players and have some experience, size and athletic ability. They both had decent preseasons as receivers and both played some in the slot. Danny Davis is getting cut
Toure really looked great in the preseason and there is no way he makes it to the PS. He is the surprise.
That leaves Doubs, Rodgers and Cobb for the last WR. Because of other positions the Packers can't keep more than 7.

MLF: So Aaron, who do you recommend we keep?
Aaron: Can we give Cobb an apprenticeship as a coach?
Gute: Yes
Aaron: Keep Doubs or Rodgers, your choice.
Gute and MLF: Thanks

Of course it could be Rodgers rather than Toure that is the camp surprise. Or the TE group looks great and the Packers keep an extra TE and only 6 receivers. The point is that Rodgers is well aware that he only has 2 more years to get a SB. He isn't going to cut a good young player who is on ST and have ST be a &%$@ again this season and cause a loss in the playoffs just to keep his old friend who is well past his peak.

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TheSkeptic wrote:
28 Jun 2022 13:05
go pak go wrote:
27 Jun 2022 13:42
TheSkeptic wrote:
27 Jun 2022 13:19


He was mad when Jordy got cut also. But they still cut him - because he lost a step from that ACL. Cobb has also lost a step from accumulated injuries and he was never fast.
And all that led up to Rodgers holding out the last year.

The Packers aren't poking the bear again.
I think the problem was not that the Packers cut Jordy, it was how they did it, without respect. I think that the Packers should have kept Kumerow because he was better than the guy they kept, and Rodgers would have told them that. But the main problem was that they did not ask Rodgers for input and they did not give him a heads up.

So supposing they do, they ask him for input and they explain to him their thinking:
Lazard, Wilkins and Watson are the top 3.
Winfree and Taylor are core ST players and have some experience, size and athletic ability. They both had decent preseasons as receivers and both played some in the slot. Danny Davis is getting cut
Toure really looked great in the preseason and there is no way he makes it to the PS. He is the surprise.
That leaves Doubs, Rodgers and Cobb for the last WR. Because of other positions the Packers can't keep more than 7.

MLF: So Aaron, who do you recommend we keep?
Aaron: Can we give Cobb an apprenticeship as a coach?
Gute: Yes
Aaron: Keep Doubs or Rodgers, your choice.
Gute and MLF: Thanks

Of course it could be Rodgers rather than Toure that is the camp surprise. Or the TE group looks great and the Packers keep an extra TE and only 6 receivers. The point is that Rodgers is well aware that he only has 2 more years to get a SB. He isn't going to cut a good young player who is on ST and have ST be a &%$@ again this season and cause a loss in the playoffs just to keep his old friend who is well past his peak.
:rotf: I was joking when I asked if Cobb was now a coach, mostly based on acting as translater for Rodgers to his new receivers, as though they have some mental telepathy link up going on, but you think it might be a thing :idea:

who knows, wouldn't surprise me either way, but I think it's pretty early to pick this receiver roster, as to Cobb, I think he mentioned that Amari Rodgers looks quicker, and Amari was drafted to do what Cobbs done, play the slot, Gute will want to give Amari every oppertunity to win that job.

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