Rank the Roster 2022: #29

[Waldo]

Rank The Roster: 2022 Edition

1. Aaron Rodgers (62%)[--]
2. Kenny Clark (43%)[+3]
3. Jaire Alexander (44%)[--]
4. David Bakhtiari (40%)[--]
5. Elgton Jenkins (29%)[+3]
6. Rashan Gary (51%)[+4]
7. DeVondre Campbell (51%)[+26]
8. Aaron Jones (53%)[-1]
9. Adrian Amos (40%)[--]
10. Eric Stokes (41%)[+10]
11. AJ Dillon (42%)[+5]
12. Preston Smith (52%)[+2]
13. Rasul Douglas (42%)[+29]
14. Darnell Savage (42%)[-1]
15. Alan Lazard (33%)[+5]
16. Josh Myers (20%)[+3]
17. Sammy Watkins (23%)[FA]
18. John Runyan (30%)[+6]
19. Quay Walker (25%)[R]
20. Devonte Wyatt (30%)[R]
21. Robert Tonyan (35%)[-9]
22. Christian Watson (37%)[R]
23. Dean Lowry (46%)[+3]
24. Randall Cobb (28%)[FA]
25. Royce Newman (28%)[+10]
26. Jarran Reed (29%)[FA]
27. Yosh Nijman (41%)[+15]
28. Marcedes Lewis (24%)[+1]
29. Current (xx%)[--]

Percent of vote the winner got will be in parenthesis, position change vs. 2021 will be in brackets.

Here's how this works:

Each day there is a new thread/poll, starting at #1, on down to whereever we get. The whole point of this exercise is to have something to talk about in the lean news months to carry us to camp. Each poll will be open for voting for 24 hours. New threads will only be created on weekdays. Ties will cause a runoff poll. You may vote up to TWO players (a change that was made mid-poll last year, seemed to work well).

Simply voting is not enough!

Post why you voted for who you did and provide a player to add to the next poll (every poll will be a list of 15-20 guys, new players added in bunches every few days).

Here's the thing. There is no criteria. This is an exercise to foster discussion therefore there are no clear criteria for ranking. Who is better right now? Who will have the best season? Who was better last year? Sort of a combo of them all? Do you take positional value into account? It really doesn't matter.

Previous Years:
Rank the Roster: 2021
Rank the Roster: 2020
Rank the Roster: 2014-2019

[Waldo]

I'll go Barnes and Love here. Pretty soon though there should be a run on TE's, seems like we are going to use them a lot.

[TheSkeptic]

Love of course.

As others have pointed out, the D's base is 2 down Dlinemen, 2 OLB's, 2 ILB's and 5 DB's. And so people are voting for the 5th Dlineman.

As Jim Morrison sang: "People are strange" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sezc05A4s2g

Poor Love, he don't get no respect" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmHuDKNI23c

However I do think that TJ should have been #4 with Reed #5.

[Labrev]

Slaton only let's goooooo!

[YoHoChecko]

Slaton only let's goooooo!

I'm intrigued by the Slaton love.

I am excited about him. I think his rookie flashes and the chatter this offseason is a good sign.

But I also feel like we have a habit of really hoping up our mid-late round DL prospects and then getting sorely disappointed. I mean, how long was Keke the next great hope based on flashes we saw early and promised development. How long did we wait for Montravius Adams to take the next step.

Slaton might be a rare exception, but there's a reason why athletic big men tend to go pretty early. A lot of them can flash little signs of dominance here and there, but few can bring that level of play with any consistency.

It's probably getting close for him, anyway, but I'd put him behind a TE or two, certainly.

[Drj820]

Slaton only let's goooooo!

I'm intrigued by the Slaton love.

I am excited about him. I think his rookie flashes and the chatter this offseason is a good sign.

But I also feel like we have a habit of really hoping up our mid-late round DL prospects and then getting sorely disappointed. I mean, how long was Keke the next great hope based on flashes we saw early and promised development. How long did we wait for Montravius Adams to take the next step.

Slaton might be a rare exception, but there's a reason why athletic big men tend to go pretty early. A lot of them can flash little signs of dominance here and there, but few can bring that level of play with any consistency.

It's probably getting close for him, anyway, but I'd put him behind a TE or two, certainly.

Many of us actually thought keke was a one trick pony that was mid

[BF004]

Slaton only let's goooooo!

I'm intrigued by the Slaton love.

I am excited about him. I think his rookie flashes and the chatter this offseason is a good sign.

But I also feel like we have a habit of really hoping up our mid-late round DL prospects and then getting sorely disappointed. I mean, how long was Keke the next great hope based on flashes we saw early and promised development. How long did we wait for Montravius Adams to take the next step.

Slaton might be a rare exception, but there's a reason why athletic big men tend to go pretty early. A lot of them can flash little signs of dominance here and there, but few can bring that level of play with any consistency.

It's probably getting close for him, anyway, but I'd put him behind a TE or two, certainly.

We also get Mike Danielses and Dean Lowryses.

[salmar80]

Love,

because if AR goes down, a TJ Slaton or a Krys Barnes or anyone else left would become instant afterthoughts. It would be up to Love. And he damn well be ready.

[TheSkeptic]

Love,

because if AR goes down, a TJ Slaton or a Krys Barnes or anyone else left would become instant afterthoughts. It would be up to Love. And he damn well be ready.

I totally agree with you. No one else in this list is important if AR gets hurt. And the odds are he will get hurt, it is after all football.

With this said, here is a new post, today, about TJ. There is no way Reed is going to suit up if no one gets hurt. https://www.packers.com/video/rock-repo ... foundation

[Labrev]

Love,

because if AR goes down, a TJ Slaton or a Krys Barnes or anyone else left would become instant afterthoughts. It would be up to Love. And he damn well be ready.

Counterargument: the rest of the team that plays meaningful snaps become *more* valuable if Rodgers goes down because they can't rely on his play (in the regular season, anyway) covering their weaknesses, and now will have to carry a guy who to-date looks like who isn't cut out for starting in this league.

[TheSkeptic]

Love,

because if AR goes down, a TJ Slaton or a Krys Barnes or anyone else left would become instant afterthoughts. It would be up to Love. And he damn well be ready.

Counterargument: the rest of the team that plays meaningful snaps become *more* valuable if Rodgers goes down because they can't rely on his play (in the regular season, anyway) covering their weaknesses, and now will have to carry a guy who to-date looks like who isn't cut out for starting in this league.

It is true if you are talking about starters but no one in this list now is a probable starter. The Oline giving a QB an extra second before there is pressure makes a difference. Jones busting out for 40 yard gains or Dillon averaging 5 yards a carry and wearing out a D makes a difference. Christian Watson or Tonyan finding a way to be wide open and catching a bad pass makes a difference. Our 3 top cornerbacks getting pick 6's makes a difference. Gary separating the opposing QB from the ball makes a difference. The TJ Slaytons and Reeds and Barnes of the team can't cover for Love if he is not cut out to be QB or the Packers.

[BF004]

Love,

because if AR goes down, a TJ Slaton or a Krys Barnes or anyone else left would become instant afterthoughts. It would be up to Love. And he damn well be ready.

I totally agree with you. No one else in this list is important if AR gets hurt. And the odds are he will get hurt, it is after all football.

With this said, here is a new post, today, about TJ. There is no way Reed is going to suit up if no one gets hurt. https://www.packers.com/video/rock-repo ... foundation

Aaron’s only missed games in 4 out of 14 seasons. 1 year was one game with a concussion and another year was one game from Covid. So only twice in 14 years has he missed multiple games.

The odds are absolutely not that he will get hurt.

Maybe increased without davante and with him aging, but the odds still not going to be in that favor.

Your argument still stands, but that statement is grossly wrong.

[TheSkeptic]

Love,

because if AR goes down, a TJ Slaton or a Krys Barnes or anyone else left would become instant afterthoughts. It would be up to Love. And he damn well be ready.

I totally agree with you. No one else in this list is important if AR gets hurt. And the odds are he will get hurt, it is after all football.

With this said, here is a new post, today, about TJ. There is no way Reed is going to suit up if no one gets hurt. https://www.packers.com/video/rock-repo ... foundation

Aaron’s only missed games 4 out of 14 seasons. 1 year was one game with a concussion and another year was one game from Covid. So only twice in 14 years has he missed multiple games.

The odds are absolutely not that he will get hurt.

Maybe increased without davante and with him aging, but the odds still not going to be in that favor.

Your argument still stands, but that statement is grossly wrong.

You forgot the broken collarbone in 2017. 8 weeks in IR and ineffective the rest of the season.

[BF004]

I totally agree with you. No one else in this list is important if AR gets hurt. And the odds are he will get hurt, it is after all football.

With this said, here is a new post, today, about TJ. There is no way Reed is going to suit up if no one gets hurt. https://www.packers.com/video/rock-repo ... foundation

Aaron’s only missed games 4 out of 14 seasons. 1 year was one game with a concussion and another year was one game from Covid. So only twice in 14 years has he missed multiple games.

The odds are absolutely not that he will get hurt.

Maybe increased without davante and with him aging, but the odds still not going to be in that favor.

Your argument still stands, but that statement is grossly wrong.

You forgot the broken collarbone in 2017. 8 weeks in IR and ineffective the rest of the season.

How did I forget that?

[TheSkeptic]

Aaron’s only missed games 4 out of 14 seasons. 1 year was one game with a concussion and another year was one game from Covid. So only twice in 14 years has he missed multiple games.

The odds are absolutely not that he will get hurt.

Maybe increased without davante and with him aging, but the odds still not going to be in that favor.

Your argument still stands, but that statement is grossly wrong.

You forgot the broken collarbone in 2017. 8 weeks in IR and ineffective the rest of the season.

How did I forget that?

Not pleasant to remember that season for me either.

[BF004]

I mean, that was one of the two seasons he’s missed significant time in?

I’m not sure how I am forgotting that.

[Labrev]

Love,

because if AR goes down, a TJ Slaton or a Krys Barnes or anyone else left would become instant afterthoughts. It would be up to Love. And he damn well be ready.

Counterargument: the rest of the team that plays meaningful snaps become *more* valuable if Rodgers goes down because they can't rely on his play (in the regular season, anyway) covering their weaknesses, and now will have to carry a guy who to-date looks like who isn't cut out for starting in this league.

It is true if you are talking about starters

I'm not! I said "meaningful snaps" so that includes players who do not start, but play more than a handful of snaps on a weekly basis.

Football is a game where 1 play can change the outcome. I am not saying EVERY player who is likely to play at all every week should be voted before Love, just the ones who will regularly play a not-insignificant role.

The TJ Slaytons and Reeds and Barnes of the team can't cover for Love if he is not cut out to be QB or the Packers.

I consider DT to be one of the premium positions so the rotational players are pretty valuable in my eyes. Slaton already looks poised to be our nose and he is a guy who flashed high-end ability. He has the upside to outplay #29.

In the event Love has to start a stretch, I would definitely hope the DL as a whole unit would up their game. That would mean not just the starters playing good ball, but the rotational guys also making plays. I think we are going to distribute snaps very evenly among Clark, Lowry, Reed, Slaton, and Wyatt in roughly that order of preference; there is a lot of appeal in significantly cutting Clark's snaps so he's got more juice in January.

I would put Slaton and Reed above him. I would ultimately also put Barned above him, but I could sympathize with putting Love ahead of Barnes because subpackage ILBs who are mainly run-stoppers are not terribly valuable and you can find guys like that on the open market at any time. That said, he's a guy I really like having as our ILB3.

[TheSkeptic]

I am not saying EVERY player who is likely to play at all every week should be voted before Love, just the ones who will regularly play a not-insignificant role.

We agree in principle. We disagree about who will regularly play a not insignificant role. My opinion is that all the players that fit this description are already off the board and that neither Reed nor are likely to Slayton fit that description this season. The Packers most common formation is the nickle with 2 down linemen. Their rotation is Clark, Lowry and Wyatt. 3 players for 2 positions. Fyi, I know what your sig means. I agree with you.