Rank the Roster 2022: #30

[Waldo]

Rank The Roster: 2022 Edition

1. Aaron Rodgers (62%)[--]
2. Kenny Clark (43%)[+3]
3. Jaire Alexander (44%)[--]
4. David Bakhtiari (40%)[--]
5. Elgton Jenkins (29%)[+3]
6. Rashan Gary (51%)[+4]
7. DeVondre Campbell (51%)[+26]
8. Aaron Jones (53%)[-1]
9. Adrian Amos (40%)[--]
10. Eric Stokes (41%)[+10]
11. AJ Dillon (42%)[+5]
12. Preston Smith (52%)[+2]
13. Rasul Douglas (42%)[+29]
14. Darnell Savage (42%)[-1]
15. Alan Lazard (33%)[+5]
16. Josh Myers (20%)[+3]
17. Sammy Watkins (23%)[FA]
18. John Runyan (30%)[+6]
19. Quay Walker (25%)[R]
20. Devonte Wyatt (30%)[R]
21. Robert Tonyan (35%)[-9]
22. Christian Watson (37%)[R]
23. Dean Lowry (46%)[+3]
24. Randall Cobb (28%)[FA]
25. Royce Newman (28%)[+10]
26. Jarran Reed (29%)[FA]
27. Yosh Nijman (41%)[+15]
28. Marcedes Lewis (24%)[+1]
29. TJ Slaton (32%)[+10]
30. Current (xx%)[--]

Percent of vote the winner got will be in parenthesis, position change vs. 2021 will be in brackets.

Here's how this works:

Each day there is a new thread/poll, starting at #1, on down to whereever we get. The whole point of this exercise is to have something to talk about in the lean news months to carry us to camp. Each poll will be open for voting for 24 hours. New threads will only be created on weekdays. Ties will cause a runoff poll. You may vote up to TWO players (a change that was made mid-poll last year, seemed to work well).

Simply voting is not enough!

Post why you voted for who you did and provide a player to add to the next poll (every poll will be a list of 15-20 guys, new players added in bunches every few days).

Here's the thing. There is no criteria. This is an exercise to foster discussion therefore there are no clear criteria for ranking. Who is better right now? Who will have the best season? Who was better last year? Sort of a combo of them all? Do you take positional value into account? It really doesn't matter.

Previous Years:
Rank the Roster: 2021
Rank the Roster: 2020
Rank the Roster: 2014-2019

[Waldo]

Into the 30's now, football is getting close.

Taking a DL on OTA hype over the backup QB, who now is pretty much a veteran backup QB. I mean I didn't see a future HoFer in Love like we saw in the last 2 starters, but that would have went long long ago. He's a whole lot better than the crap like Kizer and Hundley.

But alas, I'm just not a believer in the Slaton hype yet.

One guy that is flying under the radar is Kingsley Enagbare. Best I can tell he's the #3 OLB so will get some rotational play.

Tyler Davis has been just hyped up this offseason, not much interest that way yet.

But I'm going to go with Barnes and Love again.

[Pckfn23]

He's a whole lot better than the crap like Kizer and Hundley.

Are you sure?

[Packfntk]

I refuse to vote for 2 players until Love is off this list. Quit being ridiculous, you just look silly.

[Labrev]

Love looks like a(n only marginally better) Kizer clone to me. Hundo was mid but I had more faith in his ability to win games.

I'm kinda throwing darts here but......

1. Rhyan, he's more than a longshot to usurp RG from Newman so he should be ranked close to him IMO.
2. Nixon, will be a key ST guy and has looked like a player at CB so far.

[TheSkeptic]

I refuse to vote for 2 players until Love is off this list. Quit being ridiculous, you just look silly.

I agree. There are a lot of people here that know next to zero about football. They are not Packer fans either, they are Rodgers fans and would not care if the Packers go 7-10 with a a UDFA as QB for the next 2 or 3 seasons if Rogers gets hurt. All that matters to them is that Rodgers didn't get his weapon instead of Love.

I didn't vote.

[Yoop]

I refuse to vote for 2 players until Love is off this list. Quit being ridiculous, you just look silly.

I agree. There are a lot of people here that know next to zero about football. They are not Packer fans either, they are Rodgers fans and would not care if the Packers go 7-10 with a a UDFA as QB for the next 2 or 3 seasons if Rogers gets hurt. All that matters to them is that Rodgers didn't get his weapon instead of Love.

I didn't vote.

OHHHHHH please spare us.

Love is still available because we have a lot better bench then we've previously had and 2nd string QB's hopefully never play.

and it seems the goal now on defense is to play more 30 hybrid fronts with 3 down lineman, and in that formation a Slaton type has more value, we now have two ILB's that can play 3 downs, which translates to less nickel and dime packages.

this has nothing to do with liking or disliking a player to me, I've supported Love as much as anyone here, reality is that Rodgers has been pretty healthy over the years and Lafluers schemes are designed to keep him safe in the pocket, and other then last year the oline was able to do that.

You've been on this love admiration trip for eons, and thats because you dislike Rodgers, so don't flip this back on us because of your narrow mindedness, we know which side of the bread the butter is on.

[TheSkeptic]

I refuse to vote for 2 players until Love is off this list. Quit being ridiculous, you just look silly.

I agree. There are a lot of people here that know next to zero about football. They are not Packer fans either, they are Rodgers fans and would not care if the Packers go 7-10 with a a UDFA as QB for the next 2 or 3 seasons if Rogers gets hurt. All that matters to them is that Rodgers didn't get his weapon instead of Love.

I didn't vote.

OHHHHHH please spare us.

Love is still available because we have a lot better bench then we've previously had and 2nd string QB's hopefully never play.

and it seems the goal now on defense is to play more 30 hybrid fronts with 3 down lineman, and in that formation a Slaton type has more value, we now have two ILB's that can play 3 downs, which translates to less nickel and dime packages.

this has nothing to do with liking or disliking a player to me, I've supported Love as much as anyone here, reality is that Rodgers has been pretty healthy over the years and Lafluers schemes are designed to keep him safe in the pocket, and other then last year the oline was able to do that.

You've been on this love admiration trip for eons, and thats because you dislike Rodgers, so don't flip this back on us because of your narrow mindedness, we know which side of the bread the butter is on.

Yes, spare us Yoop. You rarely look anything up and just spout off.

So here is a test for you:
Who got more snaps last season, average per game when on the 53 and healthy:
Lancaster or TJ?
Abdullah Anderson or TJ?
Is it really true that Keke had more than twice the number of snaps when healthy and on the 53 as TJ?

And you seriously expect us to believe that the guy who got outplayed by Keke and Anderson who are not even on the team any more is going to be the guy who takes snaps away from Clark, Lowry and Wyatt if all 3 are healthy?

If the Packers play more formations with 3 Dlineman, your 4th should be - Gary. Move him inside, move Quay to OLB and let Campbell be the only ILB on obvious passing downs. The only time Reed or TJ should see the field is on 4th down with a half yard to go. And if Ford is a pleasant surprise I would cut Reed and tell TJ to lose 15 pounds.

I don't hate Rodgers at all, but you have hated on Love at every opportunity until this post. In fact, I was very much in favor of letting Favre go and starting Rodgers in his 2nd year! Look it up. It is my opinion that the best way to win SB's is to start a QB like Love in his 2nd year and to trade his predecessor for whatever you can get for him, Draft a small school QB late in the 1st round or anywhere in the 2nd or 3rd, rinse and repeat.

And I am sick of the snide personal insults. You do it to everyone who questions your genius. No one else on this forum is allowed or wants to insult everyone who disagrees with him.

[Pckfn23]

So here is a test for you:
Who got more snaps last season, average per game when on the 53 and healthy:
Lancaster or TJ?
Abdullah Anderson or TJ?
Is it really true that Keke had more than twice the number of snaps when healthy and on the 53 as TJ?

And you seriously expect us to believe that the guy who got outplayed by Keke and Anderson who are not even on the team any more is going to be the guy who takes snaps away from Clark, Lowry and Wyatt if all 3 are healthy?

More snaps on a per game average when the players was on the 53 and healthy... That's kind of an interesting way to look at it. Keke had issues outside the playing field and was released. Anderson never outsnapped Slaton in any game they played together. As far as Lancaster, in the 2nd half of the year especially, Slaton had just as much chance to outsnap Lancaster as Lancaster did him.

Here are the snap counts for the iDL last year:
Kenny Clark - 782
Dean Lowry - 674
Kingsley Keke - 393
Tyler Lancaster - 319
TJ Slaton - 255
Abdullah Anderson - 49
Jack Heflin - 17

That is 761 snaps that need to be accounted for from 2021. Between Reed, Slaton, and Wyatt, I would expected that is where they go. I would say that Slaton and Reed will see the lions share of those snaps, especially early on. Young iDL don't usually hit the ground running. Kenny Clark as a rookie only saw 333 snaps.

So basically it comes down to an iDL playing 33%-45% of all defensive snaps, compared to a QB who may never take a meaningful snap or if he does, he just isn't any good... It's why I personally when with Slaton over Love. I think I will go with a handful more players before Love even.

[Realist]

I refuse to vote for 2 players until Love is off this list. Quit being ridiculous, you just look silly.

I agree. There are a lot of people here that know next to zero about football. They are not Packer fans either, they are Rodgers fans and would not care if the Packers go 7-10 with a a UDFA as QB for the next 2 or 3 seasons if Rogers gets hurt. All that matters to them is that Rodgers didn't get his weapon instead of Love.

I didn't vote.

You better name names with those accusations.

[go pak go]

I voted for Sean Rhyan and Krys Barnes.

I don't get the love for Love. I get the position. I do. But I haven't seen anything from Love last year that makes me excited beyond one drive vs Buffalo. That pass that Love missed at the end of the Lions game to EQSB burns in my mind. That was the game clincher. It was a pretty open, layup pass and he absolutely blew it. I'd be okay if he blew it by throwing too much to the sidelines, but lordy he blew it by throwing too much in the middle of the field. It was a bad, bad play.

I believe Rhyan wins the starting RG job. But I am in a "I will wait until proven otherwise with Love"

Don't get me wrong. I'm a huge Love fanboy. I want him to succeed like crazy. But I haven't seen anything so far.

[Drj820]

He's a whole lot better than the crap like Kizer and Hundley.

Are you sure?

This is your best post in your posting history.

[Yoop]

I agree. There are a lot of people here that know next to zero about football. They are not Packer fans either, they are Rodgers fans and would not care if the Packers go 7-10 with a a UDFA as QB for the next 2 or 3 seasons if Rogers gets hurt. All that matters to them is that Rodgers didn't get his weapon instead of Love.

I didn't vote.

OHHHHHH please spare us.

Love is still available because we have a lot better bench then we've previously had and 2nd string QB's hopefully never play.

and it seems the goal now on defense is to play more 30 hybrid fronts with 3 down lineman, and in that formation a Slaton type has more value, we now have two ILB's that can play 3 downs, which translates to less nickel and dime packages.

this has nothing to do with liking or disliking a player to me, I've supported Love as much as anyone here, reality is that Rodgers has been pretty healthy over the years and Lafluers schemes are designed to keep him safe in the pocket, and other then last year the oline was able to do that.

You've been on this love admiration trip for eons, and thats because you dislike Rodgers, so don't flip this back on us because of your narrow mindedness, we know which side of the bread the butter is on.

Yes, spare us Yoop. You rarely look anything up and just spout off.

So here is a test for you:
Who got more snaps last season, average per game when on the 53 and healthy:
Lancaster or TJ?
Abdullah Anderson or TJ?
Is it really true that Keke had more than twice the number of snaps when healthy and on the 53 as TJ?

And you seriously expect us to believe that the guy who got outplayed by Keke and Anderson who are not even on the team any more is going to be the guy who takes snaps away from Clark, Lowry and Wyatt if all 3 are healthy?

If the Packers play more formations with 3 Dlineman, your 4th should be - Gary. Move him inside, move Quay to OLB and let Campbell be the only ILB on obvious passing downs. The only time Reed or TJ should see the field is on 4th down with a half yard to go. And if Ford is a pleasant surprise I would cut Reed and tell TJ to lose 15 pounds.

I don't hate Rodgers at all, but you have hated on Love at every opportunity until this post. In fact, I was very much in favor of letting Favre go and starting Rodgers in his 2nd year! Look it up. It is my opinion that the best way to win SB's is to start a QB like Love in his 2nd year and to trade his predecessor for whatever you can get for him, Draft a small school QB late in the 1st round or anywhere in the 2nd or 3rd, rinse and repeat.

And I am sick of the snide personal insults. You do it to everyone who questions your genius. No one else on this forum is allowed or wants to insult everyone who disagrees with him.

wtf, Skeptic your the guy that for whatever reason poked fun at others for liking a HOF QB over a young and still unproven Love, who I have defended over most others on this forum who think Love sucks and will never amount to a starting caliber QB ( as though they somehow know)

and I don't need to look anything up to make a valid guess that Lancaster and Keke had more snaps then Slaton the rookie, or that Wyatt will likely equal Lowery in snaps this year because he's a better pass rusher.

and ya don't need to be a genius to see that the focus of the draft was to improve our ability to play more base 3-4 defense, thats what drafting Walker and Wyatt was all about, but hey don't take my word for it, lets just wait till the season, and we'll see who is right.

[Yoop]

I voted for Sean Rhyan and Krys Barnes.

I don't get the love for Love. I get the position. I do. But I haven't seen anything from Love last year that makes me excited beyond one drive vs Buffalo. That pass that Love missed at the end of the Lions game to EQSB burns in my mind. That was the game clincher. It was a pretty open, layup pass and he absolutely blew it. I'd be okay if he blew it by throwing too much to the sidelines, but lordy he blew it by throwing too much in the middle of the field. It was a bad, bad play.

I believe Rhyan wins the starting RG job. But I am in a "I will wait until proven otherwise with Love"

Don't get me wrong. I'm a huge Love fanboy. I want him to succeed like crazy. But I haven't seen anything so far.

for all you know It could have been a poor pass, orrr it could be that Brown didn't run the route the way Love expected him to, or as he'd run it in practice,

why is it always the QB, this same kind of stuff has happened with Rodgers and the receiver is never at fault, imo I think a lot of misses come down to receivers not consistently running the patterns the same each time, which means the QB has to guess at the catch point, or receiver cut it in the wrong direction, WE, You and me, would never know these things, unless where told, and why would anyone devulge that kind of info.

It's easy to just blame the QB, problem is where probably wrong as much as where right, we think we know, But as Teddy T said, we havn't a clue, basically where just guessing, lis if the coaches don't know if Love has it, how in the heck can we possibly think we do.

[TheSkeptic]

wtf, Skeptic your the guy that for whatever reason poked fun at others for liking a HOF QB over a young and still unproven Love, who I have defended over most others on this forum who think Love sucks and will never amount to a starting caliber QB ( as though they somehow know)

and I don't need to look anything up to make a valid guess that Lancaster and Keke had more snaps then Slaton the rookie, or that Wyatt will likely equal Lowery in snaps this year because he's a better pass rusher.

and ya don't need to be a genius to see that the focus of the draft was to improve our ability to play more base 3-4 defense, thats what drafting Walker and Wyatt was all about, but hey don't take my word for it, lets just wait till the season, and we'll see who is right.

I argue. That is what this forum is for. I try to back up my opinions with stats, that is the fair thing to do. Others can disagree and I bear them no ill will for doing so and I am usually open to changing my mind. But I try not to get personal and I hardly ever deliberately mock anyone. Opinions about football are fair game. Personal or snide insults are not. Unfortunately not everyone refrains from personal or snide insults.

Now, regarding Love. Last season Love did not look good against a quality team on the road where special teams put him in horrible situations. In the last playoff game, special teams put Rodgers in horrible situations against a quality team with the Packers having home field advantage. If you are going to judge Love based upon that game, please watch both games, preferably twice. And then come back and tell me that Love sucks and Rodgers is the GOAT. If you actually go back and watch both games and you still think that Love sucks, OK, you are entitled to your opinion. I watched both games and I am entitled to my opinion too, without snide insults.

[go pak go]

I voted for Sean Rhyan and Krys Barnes.

I don't get the love for Love. I get the position. I do. But I haven't seen anything from Love last year that makes me excited beyond one drive vs Buffalo. That pass that Love missed at the end of the Lions game to EQSB burns in my mind. That was the game clincher. It was a pretty open, layup pass and he absolutely blew it. I'd be okay if he blew it by throwing too much to the sidelines, but lordy he blew it by throwing too much in the middle of the field. It was a bad, bad play.

I believe Rhyan wins the starting RG job. But I am in a "I will wait until proven otherwise with Love"

Don't get me wrong. I'm a huge Love fanboy. I want him to succeed like crazy. But I haven't seen anything so far.

for all you know It could have been a poor pass, orrr it could be that Brown didn't run the route the way Love expected him to, or as he'd run it in practice,

why is it always the QB, this same kind of stuff has happened with Rodgers and the receiver is never at fault, imo I think a lot of misses come down to receivers not consistently running the patterns the same each time, which means the QB has to guess at the catch point, or receiver cut it in the wrong direction, WE, You and me, would never know these things, unless where told, and why would anyone devulge that kind of info.

It's easy to just blame the QB, problem is where probably wrong as much as where right, we think we know, But as Teddy T said, we havn't a clue, basically where just guessing, lis if the coaches don't know if Love has it, how in the heck can we possibly think we do.

Yoop. There was no defender on that side of the field. Q did exactly what he needed to do. He had his route go where nobody was. It was a TD. Love needs to be smarter than that. The play was definitely far enough down field that Q could easily make an adjustment with the ball mid-air. Plus, Q was already running to that spot.

It was a terrible throw. There is no defending that throw. It was inaccurate.

It's okay to blame a player on the team that isn't a WR not named Davante Adams.

[Yoop]

I voted for Sean Rhyan and Krys Barnes.

I don't get the love for Love. I get the position. I do. But I haven't seen anything from Love last year that makes me excited beyond one drive vs Buffalo. That pass that Love missed at the end of the Lions game to EQSB burns in my mind. That was the game clincher. It was a pretty open, layup pass and he absolutely blew it. I'd be okay if he blew it by throwing too much to the sidelines, but lordy he blew it by throwing too much in the middle of the field. It was a bad, bad play.

I believe Rhyan wins the starting RG job. But I am in a "I will wait until proven otherwise with Love"

Don't get me wrong. I'm a huge Love fanboy. I want him to succeed like crazy. But I haven't seen anything so far.

for all you know It could have been a poor pass, orrr it could be that Brown didn't run the route the way Love expected him to, or as he'd run it in practice,

why is it always the QB, this same kind of stuff has happened with Rodgers and the receiver is never at fault, imo I think a lot of misses come down to receivers not consistently running the patterns the same each time, which means the QB has to guess at the catch point, or receiver cut it in the wrong direction, WE, You and me, would never know these things, unless where told, and why would anyone devulge that kind of info.

It's easy to just blame the QB, problem is where probably wrong as much as where right, we think we know, But as Teddy T said, we havn't a clue, basically where just guessing, lis if the coaches don't know if Love has it, how in the heck can we possibly think we do.

Yoop. There was no defender on that side of the field. Q did exactly what he needed to do. He had his route go where nobody was. It was a TD. Love needs to be smarter than that. The play was definitely far enough down field that Q could easily make an adjustment with the ball mid-air. Plus, Q was already running to that spot.

It was a terrible throw. There is no defending that throw. It was inaccurate.

It's okay to blame a player on the team that isn't a WR not named Davante Adams.

I honestly don't remember the play, your probably right and it was Loves fault in that particular instance, but often, and I mean more then we realize the receiver is to blame for what we think are errant throws, I had a pro QB tell me that years ago.

the QB has a catch point designed into just about every route, and if the receiver doesn't consistently run his route it causes the QB to either adjust to the poorly run route or move to the next route progression, I've watched this happen repeatedly with Rodgers over the last 5 years, a QB most often doesn't have time extend the play, the pass rush forces him to scramble, it's why teams are using more up tempo, but ya need receivers that get up quick, and we havn't had WR's that can do that ( Adams and Cobb) this new batch hopefully can.

[go pak go]

for all you know It could have been a poor pass, orrr it could be that Brown didn't run the route the way Love expected him to, or as he'd run it in practice,

why is it always the QB, this same kind of stuff has happened with Rodgers and the receiver is never at fault, imo I think a lot of misses come down to receivers not consistently running the patterns the same each time, which means the QB has to guess at the catch point, or receiver cut it in the wrong direction, WE, You and me, would never know these things, unless where told, and why would anyone devulge that kind of info.

It's easy to just blame the QB, problem is where probably wrong as much as where right, we think we know, But as Teddy T said, we havn't a clue, basically where just guessing, lis if the coaches don't know if Love has it, how in the heck can we possibly think we do.

Yoop. There was no defender on that side of the field. Q did exactly what he needed to do. He had his route go where nobody was. It was a TD. Love needs to be smarter than that. The play was definitely far enough down field that Q could easily make an adjustment with the ball mid-air. Plus, Q was already running to that spot.

It was a terrible throw. There is no defending that throw. It was inaccurate.

It's okay to blame a player on the team that isn't a WR not named Davante Adams.

I honestly don't remember the play, your probably right and it was Loves fault in that particular instance, but often, and I mean more then we realize the receiver is to blame for what we think are errant throws, I had a pro QB tell me that years ago.

So you exerted all that time and energy on a rant defending a player on a play that you don't remember?

That is the most yoopest thing to ever yoop.

[Yoop]

Yoop. There was no defender on that side of the field. Q did exactly what he needed to do. He had his route go where nobody was. It was a TD. Love needs to be smarter than that. The play was definitely far enough down field that Q could easily make an adjustment with the ball mid-air. Plus, Q was already running to that spot.

It was a terrible throw. There is no defending that throw. It was inaccurate.

It's okay to blame a player on the team that isn't a WR not named Davante Adams.

I honestly don't remember the play, your probably right and it was Loves fault in that particular instance, but often, and I mean more then we realize the receiver is to blame for what we think are errant throws, I had a pro QB tell me that years ago.

So you exerted all that time and energy on a rant defending a player on a play that you don't remember?

That is the most yoopest thing to ever yoop.

ya, I guess I did waste my time, I see that now.