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I’m not ready to believe it until I see some preseason football. I’m not pessimistic on Love necessarily. I’m just not optimistic anymore without seeing it for myself. It’s put up or shut up time on this one
my point was that Love needed what Clements would provide more then Rodgers would, thats all.
but thanks for the accolade
I also don't think Love has been much different then most drafted QB's, if we had to rush him into service the last 2 years he would have struggled just as most other QB's do, I think we share the opinion that grooming young QB's for several seasons helps more then hinders, and that it's difficult to know just how good a QB can be till the speed of the pro game is adapted to, and that takes time.
I didn't like the pick, but it hadn't very little to do with who we picked, I'am glad we've had time to develop him, bet Love is too.
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Comparing the careers of AR/Love, this is the year that Love should come off the pines in the second half of a Sunday night game and look good in a road loss. Never mind the Covid rookie throw away year of nearly no 1 on 1 coaching and very few practice reps! Thankfully AR has been more supportive of Love than he was supported by his predecessor. I guess there's a code among Cabana Boys!
Rodgers is the greatest qb of all time. The problem is comparing.
I love that @Yoop spent all spring talking about how Clements will have a positive impact on Love and when evidence starts indicating that he’s right, he slightly disagrees and downplays Clements’ impact.
Yoop, you called this one! Spike the football!!
I will come in and take my spike. While some were arguing Clements was hired for Love and others said no way, it was Rodgers. I asked (and a lot) why can't it be both?
No doubt what we are witnessing is Love benefitting from a hire that was undeniably orchestrated by Aaron Rodgers. What I found totally fascinating was listening to Love talk about Clements in his presser the other day. He used the phrase, "It's more ball in the QB room this year." That just struck me as a pretty significant choice of words.
Love's measurable have never been an issue. See the field.
Read post wrong.
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Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."
I love that @Yoop spent all spring talking about how Clements will have a positive impact on Love and when evidence starts indicating that he’s right, he slightly disagrees and downplays Clements’ impact.
Yoop, you called this one! Spike the football!!
I will come in and take my spike. While some were arguing Clements was hired for Love and others said no way, it was Rodgers. I asked (and a lot) why can't it be both?
No doubt what we are witnessing is Love benefitting from a hire that was undeniably orchestrated by Aaron Rodgers. What I found totally fascinating was listening to Love talk about Clements in his presser the other day. He used the phrase, "It's more ball in the QB room this year." That just struck me as a pretty significant choice of words.
I remember u saying that, it was down played because for the last 2 years Rodgers has been considered issue less, and the most important player in the league, so you only get to spike one football
Really excited to start seeing some good days from Love because honestly, outside of the Buffalo game, we hadn't seen any good days from Love.
This is a really big year because the Packers have a big decision to make next April/May on a 5th year option.
I think Love will show that he's worth it, he may never be as good as Favre or Rodgers, but people shouldn't expect that, very few have been, as long as he doesn't lose games with bone headed mistakes he should be good enough, strong arm, accurate, smart, get the head right and he's good to go
till Vince arrived most considered Bart Starr a wasted draft pick, same with Brett Favre according to that coach from Atlanta, basically same thing the first couple seasons when Rodgers backed up Favre, Cripes even Teddy T had some doubt and used a 2nd rounder on Brohm and a late one on another, the speed of the pro game is what ruins most you QB's, the ones allowed to sit for a year or two behind a seasoned starter imo have a much better chance at success.
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Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."
I’m not ready to believe it until I see some preseason football. I’m not pessimistic on Love necessarily. I’m just not optimistic anymore without seeing it for myself. It’s put up or shut up time on this one
I tend to agree (I was careful to say "might have" changed his career trajectory, not that he did).
But his good/improved play has been confirmed by all accounts, and this is the first we have seen or heard of him string them together (usually it's a good day followed by a bad one, no real consistency).
I was definitely pessimistic, see some of my posts about him in Rank the Roster, but there is now some concrete basis for optimism; I hope like hell he carries that into live action.
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I don't know if anyone pick up on it, but Aaron Rodgers gave Rasul Douglass a HUGE compliment saying Rasul Douglass reminds him of Charles Woodson with his intelligence, competitive nature and physical ability.
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Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."
Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."
Remember a point I made in the RtR, by Rodgers' last year on the bench, he had that team running like a well oiled machine in practice and was Favre/McCarthy's advance scout of opponents. He played a hugely valuable role that rookies and scrubs off the street just aren't going to give. I get that some didn't want to believe we'd even get that, but I think we're seeing it.
Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."
