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Re: Rodgers Traded

Posted: 25 Apr 2023 14:04
by go pak go
Scott4Pack wrote:
25 Apr 2023 13:52
Pckfn23 wrote:
24 Apr 2023 23:09
Honestly the thing I am most excited about right now is that the 2023 Packers draft will not be overshadowed by Rodgers/Packers drama!!
Yes! I am also excited to see if we can now sign a couple of FAs after the draft, once 12’s salary clears the cap (transfers to the Jets).
12's salary isn't "clearing the cap"

$40 million of Aaron Rodger is being absorbed this year. In fact, our cap hit on Aaron Rodgers for 2023 is worse now than it was before the trade. That's why we had to clear space so we could actually trade Rodgers before June 1.

Re: Rodgers Traded

Posted: 25 Apr 2023 14:07
by Drj820
will rodgers have any cap hit, dead or otherwise on the '24 roster?

Re: Rodgers Traded

Posted: 25 Apr 2023 14:09
by Madcity_matt
Drj820 wrote:
25 Apr 2023 14:07
will rodgers have any cap hit, dead or otherwise on the '24 roster?
nope. We are done after this season.

Re: Rodgers Traded

Posted: 25 Apr 2023 14:10
by Scott4Pack
Drj820 wrote:
25 Apr 2023 14:07
will rodgers have any cap hit, dead or otherwise on the '24 roster?
My understanding was that taking the $40M hit this year (2023) meant that we would be clear of 12’s salary impact in 2024.

That said, the Pack needs to decide by 1 May whether to exercise the 5th year option on Love. That’ll cost some money.

Re: Rodgers Traded

Posted: 25 Apr 2023 14:21
by Drj820
Scott4Pack wrote:
25 Apr 2023 14:10
Drj820 wrote:
25 Apr 2023 14:07
will rodgers have any cap hit, dead or otherwise on the '24 roster?
My understanding was that taking the $40M hit this year (2023) meant that we would be clear of 12’s salary impact in 2024.

That said, the Pack needs to decide by 1 May whether to exercise the 5th year option on Love. That’ll cost some money.
good news. no doubt they will do the 5th year for Love.

Re: Rodgers Traded

Posted: 25 Apr 2023 14:34
by go pak go
Drj820 wrote:
25 Apr 2023 14:07
will rodgers have any cap hit, dead or otherwise on the '24 roster?
If they keep it as it's structured currently and $40 million is hit in 2023....we will have no more cap absorption in 2024.

Honestly it doesn't matter "when" it is absorbed because we can just roll any unused 2023 cap into 2024. The most important thing to know is we must absorb the remaining $40 million of money paid but not yet recognized on the cap. If we play any tricks to lessen the 2023 hit, then it would roll into 2024.

But as of right now, it will likely all be recognized in 2023.

Re: Rodgers Traded

Posted: 25 Apr 2023 14:43
by wallyuwl
go pak go wrote:
25 Apr 2023 14:34
Drj820 wrote:
25 Apr 2023 14:07
will rodgers have any cap hit, dead or otherwise on the '24 roster?
If they keep it as it's structured currently and $40 million is hit in 2023....we will have no more cap absorption in 2024.

Honestly it doesn't matter "when" it is absorbed because we can just roll any unused 2023 cap into 2024. The most important thing to know is we must absorb the remaining $40 million of money paid but not yet recognized on the cap. If we play any tricks to lessen the 2023 hit, then it would roll into 2024.

But as of right now, it will likely all be recognized in 2023.
Gute and Ball have kicked the can down the road on way too many bad contracts via restructuring. Just needs to be 1 year of sucking and get it all cleared out.

Re: Rodgers Traded

Posted: 25 Apr 2023 16:46
by BF004
So, early predictions on record?

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Playing in the AFC East, probably best divisions in football.

Then ya got AFC West and NFC East. 2nd and 3rd best division in football?


Get the Falcons and Texans in their additional games. Being last place has its advantages.

Honestly I count a good 7-8 wins likely? Maybe get to 10-11 on the ceiling with a few breaks/luck.

I’d say maybe close to 50/50 odds we end up with a top 18 pick.



Gunna be really hard to root against Rodgers and Lazard and TBLS and prolly Cobb and maybe Lewis. Wins and losses will all be bittersweet.

Re: Rodgers Traded

Posted: 25 Apr 2023 16:57
by bud fox
BF004 wrote:
25 Apr 2023 16:46
So, early predictions on record?

Image

Playing in the AFC East, probably best divisions in football.

Then ya got AFC West and NFC East. 2nd and 3rd best division in football?


Get the Falcons and Texans in their additional games. Being last place has its advantages.

Honestly I count a good 7-8 wins likely? Maybe get to 10-11 on the ceiling with a few breaks/luck.

I’d say maybe close to 50/50 odds we end up with a top 18 pick.



Gunna be really hard to root against Rodgers and Lazard and TBLS and prolly Cobb and maybe Lewis. Wins and losses will all be bittersweet.
I think jets make the superbowl.

Re: Rodgers Traded

Posted: 25 Apr 2023 17:20
by Madcity_matt
I think they are a 12-5 team now.

Re: Rodgers Traded

Posted: 25 Apr 2023 17:40
by Scott4Pack
Pckfn23 wrote:
25 Apr 2023 10:26
In the end, the Packers fleeced the Jets for Aaron Rodgers
Posted by Mike Florio on April 25, 2023, 9:37 AM EDT

New York Jets v Green Bay Packers
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Several weeks ago, we argued that the Jets should act like they’re from New York/New Jersey. Instead, they did a deal that wouldn’t have even qualified for a set of steak knives in Glengarry Glen Ross.
I think this article is a good example of how Florio makes a living by simply disagreeing with something. Nevermind the Jets got the only QB they would confide in for one, two, or maybe three seasons. This Florio makes a living by disputing things.

Sure, the Packers got the better end of the deal, I think. But they got what they wanted. The Packers got what they wanted. And nobody is hanging their heads low or on fighting terms now.

Re: Rodgers Traded

Posted: 25 Apr 2023 18:16
by paco

Re: Rodgers Traded

Posted: 25 Apr 2023 18:20
by paco

Re: Rodgers Traded

Posted: 25 Apr 2023 18:21
by lupedafiasco
Class act by Rodgers on the way out. Sad to hear so many despise him on the radio and online. The greatest Packer this team has ever had and it’s not even close.

Re: Rodgers Traded

Posted: 25 Apr 2023 18:33
by Drj820
lupedafiasco wrote:
25 Apr 2023 18:21
Class act by Rodgers on the way out. Sad to hear so many despise him on the radio and online. The greatest Packer this team has ever had and it’s not even close.
Many fans here hated him because he didn’t just bend over and take abuse from Murphy. They also didn’t like that he didn’t want blood clots from the jab. Quite sad. I wish him well in the future.

Re: Rodgers Traded

Posted: 25 Apr 2023 18:43
by wallyuwl
Drj820 wrote:
25 Apr 2023 18:33
lupedafiasco wrote:
25 Apr 2023 18:21
Class act by Rodgers on the way out. Sad to hear so many despise him on the radio and online. The greatest Packer this team has ever had and it’s not even close.
Many fans here hated him because he didn’t just bend over and take abuse from Murphy. They also didn’t like that he didn’t want blood clots from the jab. Quite sad. I wish him well in the future.
He is his own man with his own thoughts based on facts he actively pursues. A lot of people don't like that. He did become a bit of a diva toward the end, not all that different than the legend he replaced. I wish him nothing but the best, too.

Re: Rodgers Traded

Posted: 25 Apr 2023 19:17
by RingoCStarrQB
lupedafiasco wrote:
25 Apr 2023 18:21
Class act by Rodgers on the way out. Sad to hear so many despise him on the radio and online. The greatest Packer this team has ever had and it’s not even close.
I don't think Aaron Rodgers is the "greatest Packer this team has ever had". There's a long list that would have to be sorted out and it's quite possible no Packer could be crowned the greatest Packer this team has ever had. There'd be too many ties.

Notwithstanding all of my well-known respect for the great Lombardi Packers ............. first on my list is probably (emphasis on the word probably) is Reggie White. Reggie brought a "greatness" to the Packers that had been missing since the end of the 1967 season.

When we talk about "greatest Packer this team has ever had" it might be useful to define the "greatest Bear, or the greatest Cowboy or the the greatest Steeler or the greatest Raider, etc etc." These are tough decisions. Walter Payton, Roger Staubach, Joe Greene. Or Dick Butkus, Bob Lilly or Jack Lambert? Etc Etc. Lions --> Barry Sanders. Cleveland --> Jimmy Brown. Minnesota --> Alan Page. New York Giants --> Beats me. Patriots --> Tom Brady. Falcons --> Claude Humphrey or Tommy Nobis. Raiders --> same problem as the 1960s Packers .... you can't pick just one.

Re: Rodgers Traded

Posted: 25 Apr 2023 19:23
by packman114
lupedafiasco wrote:
25 Apr 2023 18:21
Class act by Rodgers on the way out. Sad to hear so many despise him on the radio and online. The greatest Packer this team has ever had and it’s not even close.
Did anyone expect him not to do this? He has always been grateful at being a Packer. But please stop with all this greatest Packer of all time. He was one of many. We have been very fortunate as an organization to have great players on the field and as organizational ambassadors. Why do people insist on ranking athletes? Just enjoy the fact we are fans of the most unique franchise in all of sports!

Re: Rodgers Traded

Posted: 25 Apr 2023 19:40
by texas
I have always been a huge Rodgers fan, but no, he's not the greatest Packer ever. He's not even above Favre, despite being obviously better.

I thought when we won it in 2010 that Rodgers would easily surpass Favre's accomplishments, let alone tie them, but we never even made it back, partially due to Rodgers' style of going into a shell in the playoffs.

But ultimately, it's similar to what [mention]RingoCStarrQB[/mention] said. Reggie White and Favre brought us back to life after 3 decades of futility. We were basically the Lions or Browns for 3 decades, and they made us finally win again. For that, they will always be more special to this franchise, even though Rodgers is one of my favorite players of all time (and I even like his off-field antics).

Re: Rodgers Traded

Posted: 25 Apr 2023 19:42
by Drj820
Rodgers not GPOAT, no way.