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I agree. I'd like to see him gone as I am sure the roller coaster of his unit will continue. Best case is he is kept on as more of an advisor.
I agree. He was not the reason the Packers lost yesterday, but that does not mean he can't be upgraded. Problem is that there are no obvious replacements that would be a likely improvement.Labrev wrote: ↑20 Jan 2024 22:52We do not need to "fire" Barry, his contract is likely up.
I think we should hold open interviews for DC, but as it stands, it's very hard for me to argue against bringing Barry back. I wouldn't, but none of our season-ending losses have been his fault, in fact his unit has played pretty well in all of them.
The only difference keeping Rasul would have made is if they had put him at safety. Our safeties are the major problem on defense.TheSkeptic wrote: ↑21 Jan 2024 04:23I agree. He was not the reason the Packers lost yesterday, but that does not mean he can't be upgraded. Problem is that there are no obvious replacements that would be a likely improvement.Labrev wrote: ↑20 Jan 2024 22:52We do not need to "fire" Barry, his contract is likely up.
I think we should hold open interviews for DC, but as it stands, it's very hard for me to argue against bringing Barry back. I wouldn't, but none of our season-ending losses have been his fault, in fact his unit has played pretty well in all of them.
Just a fyi, though. The Packers would likely have won that game with Rasul. I hope MLF and the front office realize how badly they screwed up.
Yeah, I'm really struggling to think of a game where Rasul, a strictly outside corner, would have made an obvious difference. Yes, there was the one game we started Stokes, but that was a bad decision, not something forced by the lack of Rasul; Ballentine and Valentine were both healthy.williewasgreat wrote: ↑21 Jan 2024 05:10The only difference keeping Rasul would have made is if they had put him at safety. Our safeties are the major problem on defense.TheSkeptic wrote: ↑21 Jan 2024 04:23I agree. He was not the reason the Packers lost yesterday, but that does not mean he can't be upgraded. Problem is that there are no obvious replacements that would be a likely improvement.Labrev wrote: ↑20 Jan 2024 22:52We do not need to "fire" Barry, his contract is likely up.
I think we should hold open interviews for DC, but as it stands, it's very hard for me to argue against bringing Barry back. I wouldn't, but none of our season-ending losses have been his fault, in fact his unit has played pretty well in all of them.
Just a fyi, though. The Packers would likely have won that game with Rasul. I hope MLF and the front office realize how badly they screwed up.
I really hated how he played that final drive. When you are up 4....PLAY AGGRESSIVE.Scott4Pack wrote: ↑21 Jan 2024 17:09Sandbagger Joe needs to go. He isn't as aggressive as I'd like to see. He doesn't hide his scheme as much as I'd like either. But I don't have a say. If he gets a new contract, then I fully expect to cry about our defense in September and October again. But this year, I'll be optimistic that our offense can score >30 most weeks.
This all day! Good post!go pak go wrote: ↑21 Jan 2024 17:56I really hated how he played that final drive. When you are up 4....PLAY AGGRESSIVE.Scott4Pack wrote: ↑21 Jan 2024 17:09Sandbagger Joe needs to go. He isn't as aggressive as I'd like to see. He doesn't hide his scheme as much as I'd like either. But I don't have a say. If he gets a new contract, then I fully expect to cry about our defense in September and October again. But this year, I'll be optimistic that our offense can score >30 most weeks.
Get off the field. Whether it is with the score not changing or giving the ball back to your offense with time left.
The way we played was the worst way to play it. The 9ers get a TD AND only gives us a minute left. And that is why I feel like we need to move on.
Also, you have a guy who stinks under pressure and is pinpoint with time. So DOUBLY play aggressive.go pak go wrote: ↑21 Jan 2024 17:56I really hated how he played that final drive. When you are up 4....PLAY AGGRESSIVE.Scott4Pack wrote: ↑21 Jan 2024 17:09Sandbagger Joe needs to go. He isn't as aggressive as I'd like to see. He doesn't hide his scheme as much as I'd like either. But I don't have a say. If he gets a new contract, then I fully expect to cry about our defense in September and October again. But this year, I'll be optimistic that our offense can score >30 most weeks.
Get off the field. Whether it is with the score not changing or giving the ball back to your offense with time left.
The way we played was the worst way to play it. The 9ers get a TD AND only gives us a minute left. And that is why I feel like we need to move on.
Right. Can't play to not lose. Must play to win. If you play to win and you still yield a big play drive for a TD, then so be it. That's a lot better than getting beat because you're so soft that you can't stop anything. Give me that 100% of the time.YoHoChecko wrote: ↑21 Jan 2024 20:05Also, you have a guy who stinks under pressure and is pinpoint with time. So DOUBLY play aggressive.go pak go wrote: ↑21 Jan 2024 17:56I really hated how he played that final drive. When you are up 4....PLAY AGGRESSIVE.Scott4Pack wrote: ↑21 Jan 2024 17:09Sandbagger Joe needs to go. He isn't as aggressive as I'd like to see. He doesn't hide his scheme as much as I'd like either. But I don't have a say. If he gets a new contract, then I fully expect to cry about our defense in September and October again. But this year, I'll be optimistic that our offense can score >30 most weeks.
Get off the field. Whether it is with the score not changing or giving the ball back to your offense with time left.
The way we played was the worst way to play it. The 9ers get a TD AND only gives us a minute left. And that is why I feel like we need to move on.
Prevent D is how you play when you're up multiple scores and need to burn clock and make them go the length of the field in as many plays as possible.
It's not what you play when you're up a TD or less
For that matter, compare Joe's defense against the Niners in the first 55 minutes of the game to Joe's defense in the last five minutes of the game. Different? Different result? Didn't he put them in a shell on that last drive, like he does most of the time? And look at the result.packman114 wrote: ↑21 Jan 2024 21:02I hate bend but don't break defenses. We just never seem to play downhill. Barry's defense played better because our offense controlled the clock so well the last 5 games. His performance against the Giants, Bucs, and Panthers were not outliers. Barry was lucky Purdy can't play when it's raining.
right , I understand the necessity to play coverage like that at times, specially if you have pass rush issues or poor secondary, but we have one of the best imho DL rotations in the league, every thing we do on defense should imo revolve around that, yet Barry is content sooo often to just rush 4 whether they get pressure or not and rely on deep shell prevent, while teams march down the field, use up clock, and score, we watched to often this season sub par talented QB's carve Joe Barry up.packman114 wrote: ↑21 Jan 2024 21:02I hate bend but don't break defenses. We just never seem to play downhill. Barry's defense played better because our offense controlled the clock so well the last 5 games. His performance against the Giants, Bucs, and Panthers were not outliers. Barry was lucky Purdy can't play when it's raining.
