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lupedafiasco wrote: ↑

05 Feb 2025 17:03

texas wrote: ↑

05 Feb 2025 17:02

He didn’t say a damn thing wrong.

Exactly! If they don't like it, then they need to step up their game and show more.

thin-skinned Reed needs to play better; same for Wicks, another cry baby, number ones get over a 1000 yrds, they don't drop every other target, or completely disappear in games because they can't separate, they also know UFA come here to win, not just play for personal achievement or complementary football, maybe Jacobs comment will light a fire under our underachieving receivers.

Kraft nailed it, we need a new culture, one that isn't satisfied with mediocrity

Support Comrade Kraft's Cultural Revolution!!!!

I think they know Jacobs wants Davontae here. They are reacting to him trying to get Tae to take less money to come here. I don't think there's any more to it than that.

On Kay Adams show he said Tae probably only had 2 drops in practice all his years there and he would definitely help the young guys improve their games.

While I agree that Reed and Wicks need to let their play do the talking rather than chirp on social media, I am glad they took it personally and reacted this way unprompted, above the level of a coachspeak response of simply saying "we need to step up" when asked. It shows they care.

So Wicks is the only one who responded to Jacob's interview and it appears Reed is responding to Packers fans talking trash about the Wide Receiver group.

I don't see a ton of drama here.

go pak go wrote: ↑

06 Feb 2025 11:35

So Wicks is the only one who responded to Jacob's interview and it appears Reed is responding to Packers fans talking trash about the Wide Receiver group.

I don't see a ton of drama here.

At this point it's manufactured drama

Speaking of making things up:
Conspiracy theory time! I think MLF condoned and encouraged Jacobs' comments to light a fire under the receivers.

Crazylegs Starks wrote: ↑

06 Feb 2025 12:11

go pak go wrote: ↑

06 Feb 2025 11:35

So Wicks is the only one who responded to Jacob's interview and it appears Reed is responding to Packers fans talking trash about the Wide Receiver group.

I don't see a ton of drama here.

At this point it's manufactured drama

Speaking of making things up:
Conspiracy theory time! I think MLF condoned and encouraged Jacobs' comments to light a fire under the receivers.

I dont think anything needs to be condoned. Reed and Wicks were tied for 3rd place in dropped passes on the season. Doubs was tied for 13th. Wicks had the 2nd worst catch rate in the league and the worst drop rate at 19%. Reed dropped 15.9%. I like them and their potential but those are downright bad numbers.

This is something I have said before though. WRs should be able to catch balls when it hits their hands. What do all these WRs have in common? Jordan Love. He needs to start throwing more accurately and throwing more catchable balls. If he is going to get paid like that and take away from the resources available to afford better WRs he needs to elevate the players around him. Too many times this season I saw passes being sprayed all over the place. Hes making the jobs of our mediocre WRs significantly harder.

At this point, Jacobs is one of the few players who played his heart out in the playoffs and down the stretch. He set the bar higher than it had been. And he earned the right to speak out. Other players who haven't (yet) reached that standard can chill and suck it. Listen to the LEADERs of the team. Get in line Reed or Wicks or anybody else who can't put down their social media.

lupedafiasco wrote: ↑

06 Feb 2025 15:09

This is something I have said before though. WRs should be able to catch balls when it hits their hands. What do all these WRs have in common? Jordan Love. He needs to start throwing more accurately and throwing more catchable balls. If he is going to get paid like that and take away from the resources available to afford better WRs he needs to elevate the players around him. Too many times this season I saw passes being sprayed all over the place. Hes making the jobs of our mediocre WRs significantly harder.

You begin by highlighting the dropped passes statistics then somehow flip it around to your pet gripe of Love's accuracy being the issue.

Accuracy is a two way street. It's the QB throwing the ball and the WR with his feet working in tandem to get to in the same spot on the field at the precise right time. Sure, like every QB that plays, Love has his share of missed throws that can solely be attributed to him. Now show me a QB who puts it on the numbers every time.

Dropped passes is a stat based upon catchable balls. The WRs are paid to secure catchable balls. Catch the damn ball.

Side note: you would have hated Brett Favre.

APB wrote: ↑

07 Feb 2025 06:34

lupedafiasco wrote: ↑

06 Feb 2025 15:09

This is something I have said before though. WRs should be able to catch balls when it hits their hands. What do all these WRs have in common? Jordan Love. He needs to start throwing more accurately and throwing more catchable balls. If he is going to get paid like that and take away from the resources available to afford better WRs he needs to elevate the players around him. Too many times this season I saw passes being sprayed all over the place. Hes making the jobs of our mediocre WRs significantly harder.

You begin by highlighting the dropped passes statistics then somehow flip it around to your pet gripe of Love's accuracy being the issue.

Accuracy is a two way street. It's the QB throwing the ball and the WR with his feet working in tandem to get to in the same spot on the field at the precise right time. Sure, like every QB that plays, Love has his share of missed throws that can solely be attributed to him. Now show me a QB who puts it on the numbers every time.

Dropped passes is a stat based upon catchable balls. The WRs are paid to secure catchable balls. Catch the damn ball.

Side note: you would have hated Brett Favre.

I thought the same thing. I would like to see a reel of the drops. Accuracy issues may be present in some, but the overwhelming majority were balls that hit them right in the hands or were off to the point where you watched it and thought any WR on the other team would have made that catch. I also think accuracy is contagious. A great catch can help a QB catch fire and drop dimes on autopilot. A drop of a well placed ball can make the QB start guiding the ball in an attempt to be perfect.

Having said that, Jordan (predictably) said footwork and consistency with his accuracy are the two things he needs to continue to work on this offseason. I think everyone understands that and wants it to be better, but it is not the number 1 issue here.

Rodgers was one of the most accurate QBs not only in our history but ever, and his WRs—who turned out to be good players—often had the dropsies for a period. Nelson, Jones, Adams all went through it.

It didn't say anything about how good the QB or the WRs were, it was just a struggle they had to work through on the way to what were ultimately successful runs.

NCF wrote: ↑

07 Feb 2025 08:12

APB wrote: ↑

07 Feb 2025 06:34

lupedafiasco wrote: ↑

06 Feb 2025 15:09

This is something I have said before though. WRs should be able to catch balls when it hits their hands. What do all these WRs have in common? Jordan Love. He needs to start throwing more accurately and throwing more catchable balls. If he is going to get paid like that and take away from the resources available to afford better WRs he needs to elevate the players around him. Too many times this season I saw passes being sprayed all over the place. Hes making the jobs of our mediocre WRs significantly harder.

You begin by highlighting the dropped passes statistics then somehow flip it around to your pet gripe of Love's accuracy being the issue.

Accuracy is a two way street. It's the QB throwing the ball and the WR with his feet working in tandem to get to in the same spot on the field at the precise right time. Sure, like every QB that plays, Love has his share of missed throws that can solely be attributed to him. Now show me a QB who puts it on the numbers every time.

Dropped passes is a stat based upon catchable balls. The WRs are paid to secure catchable balls. Catch the damn ball.

Side note: you would have hated Brett Favre.

I thought the same thing. I would like to see a reel of the drops. Accuracy issues may be present in some, but the overwhelming majority were balls that hit them right in the hands or were off to the point where you watched it and thought any WR on the other team would have made that catch. I also think accuracy is contagious. A great catch can help a QB catch fire and drop dimes on autopilot. A drop of a well placed ball can make the QB start guiding the ball in an attempt to be perfect.

Having said that, Jordan (predictably) said footwork and consistency with his accuracy are the two things he needs to continue to work on this offseason. I think everyone understands that and wants it to be better, but it is not the number 1 issue here.

lets go back to what we discussed yesterday, you were right, pa does force a defense to play off and defend a possible run, which allows a freer release off the LOS.
however another thing comes into play concerning receiver drops/ or slightly off target throws, we heard that Love was one of the best at avoiding the pass rushers, but while he's doing that receivers are open that split second, but then covered when Love finally avoids the rusher and resets, thusly he has to rescan his route progressions to find someone else while also under pressure, hurries his delivery, often with very poor footwork and his pass sails close, but still off his mark, and the receivers can't haul it in.

our OL got great pass blocking grades, and that makes sense considering Love is so good at navigating the pocket and avoiding incoming rushers, to me that's a reflection on Love more than just good blocking, but it also explains some of his errant passes, hurried throws into double coverage, pass rush is kryptonite for passing success

Yoop wrote: ↑

07 Feb 2025 08:41

lets go back to what we discussed yesterday, you were right

Yoop wrote: ↑

07 Feb 2025 08:41

pa does force a defense to play off and defend a possible run, which allows a freer release off the LOS.
however another thing comes into play concerning receiver drops/ or slightly off target throws, we heard that Love was one of the best at avoiding the pass rushers, but while he's doing that receivers are open that split second, but then covered when Love finally avoids the rusher and resets, thusly he has to rescan his route progressions to find someone else while also under pressure, hurries his delivery, often with very poor footwork and his pass sails close, but still off his mark, and the receivers can't haul it in.

our OL got great pass blocking grades, and that makes sense considering Love is so good at navigating the pocket and avoiding incoming rushers, to me that's a reflection on Love more than just good blocking, but it also explains some of his errant passes, hurried throws into double coverage, pass rush is kryptonite for passing success

I think even more so than coverages, the PA game helps control the pass rush so they are not just teeing off on our OL. I am not naive to the fact that our offense probably has some glaring things to work through this offseason, but I do think we are in line for a little magic dust just getting Jordan back fully healthy and going back to what he seemed most comfortable in.

NCF wrote: ↑

07 Feb 2025 08:49

Yoop wrote: ↑

07 Feb 2025 08:41

lets go back to what we discussed yesterday, you were right

hardest thing I ever done

there's a lot that goes into things that go wrong, what we do know, is that it's beautiful when all things go right

Yoop wrote: ↑

06 Feb 2025 06:53

thin-skinned Reed needs to play better; same for Wicks, another cry baby, number ones get over a 1000 yrds, they don't drop every other target, or completely disappear in games because they can't separate, they also know UFA come here to win, not just play for personal achievement or complementary football, maybe Jacobs comment will light a fire under our underachieving receivers.

Kraft nailed it, we need a new culture, one that isn't satisfied with mediocrity

I don't think Reed's posted on twitter since October. It's almost like some of these things on the internet aren't real and are created to get people to click on them.

Well my post didnt go through earlier...

Went something along the lines of statistically, Jordan Love was 10th in Bad Throws on the season despite missing almost 3 full games. He was also 10th in Bad Throw Percentage which makes sense given the amount of bad throws. His On Target Percentage, which really helps backup my point, is 11th worst in the league and that stat excludes throw aways and spikes to give a true measure of how accurate a QB is.

lupedafiasco wrote: ↑

07 Feb 2025 10:44

Well my post didnt go through earlier...

Went something along the lines of statistically, Jordan Love was 10th in Bad Throws on the season despite missing almost 3 full games. He was also 10th in Bad Throw Percentage which makes sense given the amount of bad throws. His On Target Percentage, which really helps backup my point, is 11th worst in the league and that stat excludes throw aways and spikes to give a true measure of how accurate a QB is.

He seems to have regressed a bit this year for sure. Kind of ironic that his flaws are a combo of those that plagued both Rodgers and Favre. Older Aaron Rodgers had improper footwork and would start a drive with a few good plays then something in his brain would say “f - it, I’m chucking this up deep into double coverage.” Favre would start slow, rocket ball 5 yd passes and throw ints to DL and LBs all the time like he never saw them.

Madcity_matt wrote: ↑

07 Feb 2025 10:19

Yoop wrote: ↑

06 Feb 2025 06:53

thin-skinned Reed needs to play better; same for Wicks, another cry baby, number ones get over a 1000 yrds, they don't drop every other target, or completely disappear in games because they can't separate, they also know UFA come here to win, not just play for personal achievement or complementary football, maybe Jacobs comment will light a fire under our underachieving receivers.

Kraft nailed it, we need a new culture, one that isn't satisfied with mediocrity

I don't think Reed's posted on twitter since October. It's almost like some of these things on the internet aren't real and are created to get people to click on them.

I see a post from December but yeah this guy is definitely not a heavy social media user. I don't doubt the comment is fake as it looks like he was replying in a feed of comments. Frankly the comment that "Jayden Reed" used is hardly any drama with Josh Jacobs.

It's a nothing burger. When a post is in all caps, sirens, etc.... followed up with zero substance it's call click bait/yellow journalism. But boy Yellow Journalism seems to really work on some people right? Got a couple people here all in a fluster.