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YoHoChecko wrote: ↑

02 Jan 2021 15:04

TheGreenMan wrote: ↑

01 Jan 2021 12:16

YoHoChecko wrote: ↑

31 Dec 2020 15:57

He's going to be such a great backup in 2022. I'm so stoked.

Can't tell if serious.

0 sarcasm. Earnest excitement. Though I left it vague intentionally for fun.

Drafting Love in round one is not the choice I would have made. Trading up for him was definitely not. But the moment I accepted that he is here, I'm all in on the excitement of developing our next great QB while winning with our current great QB. It's among the most exciting things as a fan to root for one of the only teams in the league that understands the worthiness of development in a QB's prices and journey.

Some people would love (at least in their imaginations) the theoretically sound dice rolling of tanking it and getting top draft picks for once. During my time of following the Packers since 1997, we've only had three top ten picks. One top five. I guess a #1 pick would be something new and exciting. The last time we were the worst in the league was in 1959 ( ).

One thought that stirs from this is: If one needed top picks to succeed, how the heck have we succeeded without 'em? Unless you put the bar sky high at SB wins, where the Pats won 'em without top draft picks many times.

One answer: You succeed by anticipating, not living year to year. If Love becomes the next Packers franchise QB, I'll forgive that we don't have a rookie at another position this year. And that we've "wasted" years of his rookie contract by taking the time needed in developing him into an NFL QB. He won't get a cap killer extension unless he rocks the world and we win it all when he enters the stage.

salmar80 wrote: ↑

02 Jan 2021 15:50

He won't get a cap killer extension unless he rocks the world and we win it all when he enters the stage.

I am of the opinion that the best time to win in this league is on the not-top-of-market, but experienced second-contract of a young QB.

The "rookie contract" myth is based on Russell Wilson and Patrick Mahomes alone. Absolute phenoms. MVP-caliber competitors. Who were rewarded with gargantuan second contracts. But most young QBs get very large, but not top-tier second contracts. It is on those second contracts where the vast majority of team success seems to occur, to include our own Aaron Rodgers and all of Tom Brady's below-market but still generous contracts.

I made a post and a chart about this at some point before my old computer died. But QBs on rookie contracts have won only 2 of the past 10 Super Bowls. But 4 of those ten have been won by players early into their upper-mid-level contract extensions.

It is just such an extension I hope for. Get the prime years of a QB for below top-of-market rates without the need for gambling on either finding an immediate phenom or relying on a more conventionally inexperienced novice at the position. I would have preferred one additional year before making this move, but having done so, I am quite pleased that the contract situation will work itself out quite advantageously for us, with Love getting a contract along the lines of a Garapolo or Dalton or Rodgers' second contract or any of those large, but reasonable extension of the QB middle class. And then, he will outplay that contract handsomely due to our wonderful offensive scheme and our patience with the work he needed. And all will rejoice.

But as I've said all year, that's a story for another time. In the mean time, we have at least the rest of this year and all of next year with Aaron Rodgers. And that, too, is worthy of rejoicing.

Fun came back after McCarthy left IMO

Being 1 is fun.

Packfntk wrote: ↑

03 Jan 2021 19:29

Being 1 is fun.

It sucked in 2011... so let's make something of this time!!