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salmar80 wrote:
23 Nov 2021 08:59
Packfntk wrote:
23 Nov 2021 08:35
If you don't like the elements stay in your recliner.
More than that, you can't have the Packers be exactly like the other, billionaire -owned, franchises. We will not benefit from the draw of awesome QBs and continued success forever.

So if you lose the romanticism and the unique character of the stadium and the franchise itself, we will be in trouble. Green Bay can't compete with the billionaires head to head. We can compete by being the representative of olden times, and by being different enough to be interesting to, for example, a person from Finland or a crapload of people around the US.

Snow games and rough weather games are the spice that keeps the sport from tasting all vanilla and boring. And many do desire the easy comfort. But let that be the thing for others. There a niche to be won over by being tough. Be the ones who know how to withstand the weather.

As a Finn, it's really not that hard. Layer up. A bottom layer of cotton or breathing sport fabric, then real wool that warms even when wet, then a layer to stop wind and rain. And keep it airy, looking thin isn't the goal, leaving air between layers is the key to insulation. Shoes one half size too big with thick soles and insulating insoles, and then real woolen socks over the usual ones. Wind stopping cap (I do a wind-stopper cap and a woolen one for the harshest days) and airy mittens, never gloves. In extreme cold, also double up with woolen mittens under wind-stopping ones.
Gloves have more surface area than mittens do since the material goes around each finger individually. Because there's a greater surface area, gloves have more heat loss from the outside than mittens do. Another reason is the gloves have more seams than mittens, allowing for more heat loss. Mittens Mittens Mittens. :argue:

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RingoCStarrQB wrote:
02 Jan 2022 07:24
salmar80 wrote:
23 Nov 2021 08:59
Packfntk wrote:
23 Nov 2021 08:35
If you don't like the elements stay in your recliner.
More than that, you can't have the Packers be exactly like the other, billionaire -owned, franchises. We will not benefit from the draw of awesome QBs and continued success forever.

So if you lose the romanticism and the unique character of the stadium and the franchise itself, we will be in trouble. Green Bay can't compete with the billionaires head to head. We can compete by being the representative of olden times, and by being different enough to be interesting to, for example, a person from Finland or a crapload of people around the US.

Snow games and rough weather games are the spice that keeps the sport from tasting all vanilla and boring. And many do desire the easy comfort. But let that be the thing for others. There a niche to be won over by being tough. Be the ones who know how to withstand the weather.

As a Finn, it's really not that hard. Layer up. A bottom layer of cotton or breathing sport fabric, then real wool that warms even when wet, then a layer to stop wind and rain. And keep it airy, looking thin isn't the goal, leaving air between layers is the key to insulation. Shoes one half size too big with thick soles and insulating insoles, and then real woolen socks over the usual ones. Wind stopping cap (I do a wind-stopper cap and a woolen one for the harshest days) and airy mittens, never gloves. In extreme cold, also double up with woolen mittens under wind-stopping ones.
Gloves have more surface area than mittens do since the material goes around each finger individually. Because there's a greater surface area, gloves have more heat loss from the outside than mittens do. Another reason is the gloves have more seams than mittens, allowing for more heat loss. Mittens Mittens Mittens. :argue:

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Excellent explanation. Part two is that the fingers lose heat independently of the type of covering - glove or mitten. Mittens, as you describe, lose less heat. The mitten has less radiative heat loss and the heat loss can more readily be conserved in side the volume in the mitten AND conserve the heat so that it can more easily be exchanged between the fingers that are not “insulated” from each other. So in other words the heat loss can be exchanged more easily between fingers. How often, when it is extremely cold, do you ball up your fingers in a mitten into a fist? This makes it easier to conserve some of the heat loss.
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Blah, blah, blah…

The REAL reason you should wear mittens is the clap noise is distinctly louder than when wearing gloves. That’s the key… ;)

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APB wrote:
02 Jan 2022 08:43
Blah, blah, blah…

The REAL reason you should wear mittens is the clap noise is distinctly louder than when wearing gloves. That’s the key… ;)
I’ve been to many games at Lambeau field. Regrettably, the first time I saw a fight was during the recent Bears game. Maybe they were arguing about gloves vs. mittens?! :hide:
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APB wrote:
02 Jan 2022 08:43
Blah, blah, blah…

The REAL reason you should wear mittens is the clap noise is distinctly louder than when wearing gloves. That’s the key… ;)
Another factor to consider is compatibility with hand warmers. One can fit more hand warmers in a mitten than a glove.

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RingoCStarrQB wrote:
03 Jan 2022 06:04
APB wrote:
02 Jan 2022 08:43
Blah, blah, blah…

The REAL reason you should wear mittens is the clap noise is distinctly louder than when wearing gloves. That’s the key… ;)
Another factor to consider is compatibility with hand warmers. One can fit more hand warmers in a mitten than a glove.
Also true if by "hand warmer" you mean a flask...
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salmar80 wrote:
03 Jan 2022 06:30
RingoCStarrQB wrote:
03 Jan 2022 06:04
APB wrote:
02 Jan 2022 08:43
Blah, blah, blah…

The REAL reason you should wear mittens is the clap noise is distinctly louder than when wearing gloves. That’s the key… ;)
Another factor to consider is compatibility with hand warmers. One can fit more hand warmers in a mitten than a glove.
Also true if by "hand warmer" you mean a flask...
A flask does not have to fit in a mitten. :rotf:

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