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Re: Packer 2022 Defense Thoughts

Posted: 17 Aug 2022 15:07
by Trudge
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Re: Packer 2022 Defense Thoughts

Posted: 17 Aug 2022 15:25
by Yoop
If you can't back up trash talk by beating your opponent consistently your opponents will laugh at you, wont take you seriously and will probably cheap shot ya if they can get away with it, thats how that &%$@ works, even more so if your team sucks, talking smack only works when you and the team are good.

and that is a whole different thing from getting your team mates inspired, Rodgers climbing on young rookie receivers to do better is noticed by every member of the team.

Re: Packer 2022 Defense Thoughts

Posted: 17 Aug 2022 16:13
by Pckfn23
Yoop wrote:
17 Aug 2022 15:25
If you can't back up trash talk by beating your opponent consistently your opponents will laugh at you, wont take you seriously and will probably cheap shot ya if they can get away with it, thats how that &%$@ works, even more so if your team sucks, talking smack only works when you and the team are good.

and that is a whole different thing from getting your team mates inspired, Rodgers climbing on young rookie receivers to do better is noticed by every member of the team.
100%, talking trash only has some affect until you get popped in the mouth and can respond. If you suck, your trash talking is laughable. Even then, these are a select few guys who are on that field, it's rarely if ever going to phase the opponent. Pretty much every starter in the NFL is confident in their ability and trash talk from an opponent isn't going phase them. The only thing it may serve is to pump up your teammates, but even then that only serves if you can back it up.

Re: Packer 2022 Defense Thoughts

Posted: 17 Aug 2022 16:31
by BF004
Mike and Brandon agreeing?

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Re: Packer 2022 Defense Thoughts

Posted: 17 Aug 2022 16:31
by Pckfn23
BF004 wrote:
17 Aug 2022 16:31
Mike and Brandon agreeing?

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I know!!

Re: Packer 2022 Defense Thoughts

Posted: 17 Aug 2022 16:33
by BF004
Crazylegs Starks wrote:
09 Aug 2022 12:50
kyle.mccarroll wrote:
08 Aug 2022 16:15
I'll change up the subject for Yoho: I'm officially horny for this defense.
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If a #3 OLB steps up, I might explode.
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Re: Packer 2022 Defense Thoughts

Posted: 17 Aug 2022 16:46
by Labrev
lupedafiasco wrote:
17 Aug 2022 14:52
NCF wrote:
17 Aug 2022 14:04
lupedafiasco wrote:
17 Aug 2022 13:01
Douglas was apparently yelling at Jarvis Landry who used to play for the Browns which was the same game Douglas had two picks in. He told him things don’t change just because you change jerseys.

6/10 for trash talk.
I do think you are on to something that the defense needed this. I remember back a few years and this was one of the most lifeless units in the NFL. Just everyone standing there with their hands on their hips after every play. Jaire, Z, and Preston really started to reinvigorate the swagger and now it seems like it's contagious throughout the entire unit.
When I was a young stud phenom I talked massive amounts of &%$@. Football, basketball, beer pong, chess, whatever. Football I played corner and every time I lined up across from a receiver I asked him if his daddy knows hes playing with the big boys because his momma found out last night. I still play basketball every weekend even though I'm trash but whoever I'm guarding I'm in their ear the entire time about how sorry they are. When I was a young chess player I used to go to tournaments and snatch peoples pieces and ask them in the most disrespectful tone "What is this Christmas?" I would take their queens and hold it up over my head and act like I licked the bottom and told them I just took their bitch.

Gotta get in peoples heads. I would say 90% of people get too emotional and cant rise to the occasion to prove someone wrong in the moment. Bunch of bums. Me, I got ice water in the veins.

Dude wtf, you talked trash IN CHESS?? 😂

Re: Packer 2022 Defense Thoughts

Posted: 17 Aug 2022 17:34
by YoHoChecko
Labrev wrote:
17 Aug 2022 16:46
lupedafiasco wrote:
17 Aug 2022 14:52
When I was a young stud phenom I talked massive amounts of &%$@. Football, basketball, beer pong, chess, whatever. Football I played corner and every time I lined up across from a receiver I asked him if his daddy knows hes playing with the big boys because his momma found out last night. I still play basketball every weekend even though I'm trash but whoever I'm guarding I'm in their ear the entire time about how sorry they are. When I was a young chess player I used to go to tournaments and snatch peoples pieces and ask them in the most disrespectful tone "What is this Christmas?" I would take their queens and hold it up over my head and act like I licked the bottom and told them I just took their bitch.

Gotta get in peoples heads. I would say 90% of people get too emotional and cant rise to the occasion to prove someone wrong in the moment. Bunch of bums. Me, I got ice water in the veins.

Dude wtf, you talked trash IN CHESS?? 😂
This post belongs in the lupe Hall of Fame.

Re: Packer 2022 Defense Thoughts

Posted: 17 Aug 2022 17:36
by YoHoChecko
So what are we thinking about this Kobe Jones person, actually, though?

Obviously Gary and Preston are the top 2. Enegbare is both a roster lock and has really been coming on in practices and preseason.

We likely keep at least one more, probably 2 more. Garvin has been hanging around. Hamilton has flashed but is he injured? Where'd he go? Galiea flashes a ton as a rusher and seems to be involved, though not a standout, in ST.

Do y'all have favorites? I've been rooting for Galeia for a while now, but I'm not particularly sold.

Re: Packer 2022 Defense Thoughts

Posted: 18 Aug 2022 12:39
by Crazylegs Starks
I like Galiea, but I'm concerned he can't hold up against the run.

Hamilton is interesting but I haven't heard a peep about him lately.

I guess as of now, I would roll with Garvin as #3 and Enegbare as #4 with Jones on the PS.

Re: Packer 2022 Defense Thoughts

Posted: 18 Aug 2022 12:51
by Labrev
Crazylegs Starks wrote:
18 Aug 2022 12:39
I like Galiea, but I'm concerned he can't hold up against the run.

Hamilton is interesting but I haven't heard a peep about him lately.

I guess as of now, I would roll with Garvin as #3 and Enegbare as #4 with Jones on the PS.
Co-sign.

I am a bit of a traits guy as well and so I rather keep working on Garvin, who's got some nice athletic ability, than Hamilton, who is underwhelming in that department. Tipa doesn't have numbers but he has a nice frame and is said to be a pretty good athlete.

Re: Packer 2022 Defense Thoughts

Posted: 18 Aug 2022 16:00
by RingoCStarrQB
Am so much looking forward to seeing the 2022 Defense on the field during the first series of the home opener versus Da Bears. How about less than 50 yards of total Bears offense in the first half? The energy transferred by the defense to the fans in attendance should cause some serious decibels.

:kaboom:

Re: Packer 2022 Defense Thoughts

Posted: 19 Aug 2022 06:14
by TheSkeptic
RingoCStarrQB wrote:
18 Aug 2022 16:00
Am so much looking forward to seeing the 2022 Defense on the field during the first series of the home opener versus Da Bears. How about less than 50 yards of total Bears offense in the first half? The energy transferred by the defense to the fans in attendance should cause some serious decibels.

:kaboom:
How about the Packers D outscoring the entire Bears team?

Re: Packer 2022 Defense Thoughts

Posted: 19 Aug 2022 06:20
by RingoCStarrQB
TheSkeptic wrote:
19 Aug 2022 06:14
RingoCStarrQB wrote:
18 Aug 2022 16:00
Am so much looking forward to seeing the 2022 Defense on the field during the first series of the home opener versus Da Bears. How about less than 50 yards of total Bears offense in the first half? The energy transferred by the defense to the fans in attendance should cause some serious decibels.

:kaboom:
How about the Packers D outscoring the entire Bears team?
If the D can get a consistent pass rush (for a change) to rattle Fields ......... turnovers should be plentiful assuming no King-like plays occur and Savage lives up to his last name, everything should be A-OK :aok:

Re: Packer 2022 Defense Thoughts

Posted: 19 Aug 2022 06:46
by BF004
Doesn’t even have to be the bears, I’d settle for our entire team simply scoring more points than any other team in the super bowl.

Re: Packer 2022 Defense Thoughts

Posted: 19 Aug 2022 06:58
by Yoop
RingoCStarrQB wrote:
19 Aug 2022 06:20
TheSkeptic wrote:
19 Aug 2022 06:14
RingoCStarrQB wrote:
18 Aug 2022 16:00
Am so much looking forward to seeing the 2022 Defense on the field during the first series of the home opener versus Da Bears. How about less than 50 yards of total Bears offense in the first half? The energy transferred by the defense to the fans in attendance should cause some serious decibels.

:kaboom:
How about the Packers D outscoring the entire Bears team?
If the D can get a consistent pass rush (for a change) to rattle Fields ......... turnovers should be plentiful assuming no King-like plays occur and Savage lives up to his last name, everything should be A-OK :aok:
I think Fields only played a series or two last week and went 6 for 8, with the Bears OL thats remarkable :dunno:

Re: Packer 2022 Defense Thoughts

Posted: 19 Aug 2022 07:27
by Drj820
Yoop wrote:
19 Aug 2022 06:58
RingoCStarrQB wrote:
19 Aug 2022 06:20
TheSkeptic wrote:
19 Aug 2022 06:14


How about the Packers D outscoring the entire Bears team?
If the D can get a consistent pass rush (for a change) to rattle Fields ......... turnovers should be plentiful assuming no King-like plays occur and Savage lives up to his last name, everything should be A-OK :aok:
I think Fields only played a series or two last week and went 6 for 8, with the Bears OL thats remarkable :dunno:
Fields is nice

Re: Packer 2022 Defense Thoughts

Posted: 19 Aug 2022 10:20
by APB
RingoCStarrQB wrote:
19 Aug 2022 06:20
If the D can get a consistent pass rush (for a change) to rattle Fields ......... turnovers should be plentiful assuming no King-like plays occur and Savage lives up to his last name, everything should be A-OK :aok:
What are your expectations for "consistent pass rush"? The Packers were top 3 in defensive pressures last year. I'd say your "for a change" caveat is waaaaay outdated.

Re: Packer 2022 Defense Thoughts

Posted: 19 Aug 2022 11:04
by Captain_Ben
lupedafiasco wrote:
17 Aug 2022 14:52
NCF wrote:
17 Aug 2022 14:04
lupedafiasco wrote:
17 Aug 2022 13:01
Douglas was apparently yelling at Jarvis Landry who used to play for the Browns which was the same game Douglas had two picks in. He told him things don’t change just because you change jerseys.

6/10 for trash talk.
I do think you are on to something that the defense needed this. I remember back a few years and this was one of the most lifeless units in the NFL. Just everyone standing there with their hands on their hips after every play. Jaire, Z, and Preston really started to reinvigorate the swagger and now it seems like it's contagious throughout the entire unit.
When I was a young stud phenom I talked massive amounts of &%$@. Football, basketball, beer pong, chess, whatever. Football I played corner and every time I lined up across from a receiver I asked him if his daddy knows hes playing with the big boys because his momma found out last night. I still play basketball every weekend even though I'm trash but whoever I'm guarding I'm in their ear the entire time about how sorry they are. When I was a young chess player I used to go to tournaments and snatch peoples pieces and ask them in the most disrespectful tone "What is this Christmas?" I would take their queens and hold it up over my head and act like I licked the bottom and told them I just took their bitch.

Gotta get in peoples heads. I would say 90% of people get too emotional and cant rise to the occasion to prove someone wrong in the moment. Bunch of bums. Me, I got ice water in the veins.
I have said it once, I'll continue to say it. Trash talk and chippy attitudes are a necessity in football. So much so that I would hire a coach specifically for that purpose. Someone get this guy a whistle and put him on the sideline.

Re: Packer 2022 Defense Thoughts

Posted: 19 Aug 2022 11:42
by RingoCStarrQB
APB wrote:
19 Aug 2022 10:20
RingoCStarrQB wrote:
19 Aug 2022 06:20
If the D can get a consistent pass rush (for a change) to rattle Fields ......... turnovers should be plentiful assuming no King-like plays occur and Savage lives up to his last name, everything should be A-OK :aok:
What are your expectations for "consistent pass rush"? The Packers were top 3 in defensive pressures last year. I'd say your "for a change" caveat is waaaaay outdated.
Packers 2021 D was ranked 13th overall. Packers 2021 D ranked 15th in SACKS.
Expectations are based on the 1966 and 1996 Packers defensive performances. Might as well throw in the 1961 defense while we're at it :argue: