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Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2021
Posted: 23 Aug 2021 11:30
by APB
lupedafiasco wrote: ↑23 Aug 2021 09:00
Z has been incredibly fragile during his time here. His first year he was in and out throughout the game getting beat up. Apparently last season his ankle was an issue all season. Now his back has been a problem all camp
What in-the-name-of-Marcus-Welby-M.D. are you even talking about?? Fragile? In and out of the lineup?
Za'Darius Smith has started and played extensively in every game since being acquired by the Packers. Not only started, Smith has also played well over 80% of the defensive snaps each year not to mention some ST snaps, as well.
2019 Player Snap Counts
2020 Player Snap Counts
Has Smith slowed down play with "injuries" from time-to-time? Absolutely. It curiously happens more when the opposing offense seems to have some momentum building or there is a potential too-many-players penalty about to be called on the defense.
Fragile? Not available?
Smith has been the poster child for being out there when the whistle blows!
Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2021
Posted: 23 Aug 2021 12:26
by Waldo
APB wrote: ↑23 Aug 2021 11:30
Has Smith slowed down play with "injuries" from time-to-time? Absolutely. It curiously happens more when the opposing offense seems to have some momentum building or there is a potential too-many-players penalty about to be called on the defense.
Haha, so true.
I can't say I've ever seen a player get hurt so much for a play off or two type injuries consistently in tactically advantageous situations for a short timeout.
Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2021
Posted: 23 Aug 2021 13:45
by lupedafiasco
APB wrote: ↑23 Aug 2021 11:30
lupedafiasco wrote: ↑23 Aug 2021 09:00
Z has been incredibly fragile during his time here. His first year he was in and out throughout the game getting beat up. Apparently last season his ankle was an issue all season. Now his back has been a problem all camp
What in-the-name-of-Marcus-Welby-M.D. are you even talking about?? Fragile? In and out of the lineup?
Za'Darius Smith has started and played extensively in every game since being acquired by the Packers. Not only started, Smith has also played well over 80% of the defensive snaps each year not to mention some ST snaps, as well.
2019 Player Snap Counts
2020 Player Snap Counts
Has Smith slowed down play with "injuries" from time-to-time? Absolutely. It curiously happens more when the opposing offense seems to have some momentum building or there is a potential too-many-players penalty about to be called on the defense.
Fragile? Not available?
Smith has been the poster child for being out there when the whistle blows!
Relax. I just mean every year now he has had one lingering injury that has lasted from camp until the end of the season and in this case until present.
I said incredibly as in unbelievably because of his effectiveness while playing through injuries that seemingly last all season.
Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2021
Posted: 25 Aug 2021 11:01
by salmar80
Pats trade former 1st round RB Sony Michel to the Rams for a 4th round comp pick.
Michel will probably be starting for the Rams, but still feels rather high of a cost for a RB on the last year of his contract...
Interesting and imaginative way to make the trade work pick-wise. Never seen this before:
Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2021
Posted: 25 Aug 2021 11:22
by Ghost_Lombardi
I think the Rams are down to a 3rd round pick next year. That is it.
Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2021
Posted: 28 Aug 2021 11:55
by NCF
Interesting trade.
Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2021
Posted: 28 Aug 2021 13:02
by BF004
Makes no sense to me to trade a competent backup qb on a rookie contract.
Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2021
Posted: 28 Aug 2021 13:04
by Ghost_Lombardi
BF004 wrote: ↑28 Aug 2021 13:02
Makes no sense to me to trade a competent backup qb on a rookie contract.
Yeah, it almost sounds like a move a losing organization like the Jaguars would make.
Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2021
Posted: 29 Aug 2021 08:47
by APB
Ghost_Lombardi wrote: ↑28 Aug 2021 13:04
BF004 wrote: ↑28 Aug 2021 13:02
Makes no sense to me to trade a competent backup qb on a rookie contract.
Yeah, it almost sounds like a move a losing organization like the Jaguars would make.
I get the sense Meyer just didn’t want any fan or media driven QB controversy should Lawrence struggle. Can’t say I agree with trading a quality backup on the cheap, tho.
Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2021
Posted: 29 Aug 2021 15:01
by lupedafiasco
BF004 wrote: ↑28 Aug 2021 13:02
Makes no sense to me to trade a competent backup qb on a rookie contract.
Might as well get compensation for him. He is no longer in your plans as an organization. If your starter is lost you tank. No point in having a good backup unless youre developing him. Old school thinking.
Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2021
Posted: 29 Aug 2021 20:30
by BF004
Lot for an old man.
Savage not gunna be a cheap resign I have a feeling.
Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2021
Posted: 29 Aug 2021 20:33
by BF004
lupedafiasco wrote: ↑29 Aug 2021 15:01
BF004 wrote: ↑28 Aug 2021 13:02
Makes no sense to me to trade a competent backup qb on a rookie contract.
Might as well get compensation for him. He is no longer in your plans as an organization. If your starter is lost you tank. No point in having a good backup unless youre developing him. Old school thinking.
A 6th round pick? Could get that in a comp pick though.
Feel like I shouldn’t have to say this, but I feel like you are making me. It is possible for QBs to miss just the rest of a game or just a few weeks and not the whole season requiring tanking. If the Jags are competitive in their week division, with 7 teams making the playoffs, you don’t really wanna tank the season if Lawrence goes down for a few weeks and you are like 6-5 at the time.
Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2021
Posted: 29 Aug 2021 21:55
by lupedafiasco
BF004 wrote: ↑29 Aug 2021 20:33
lupedafiasco wrote: ↑29 Aug 2021 15:01
BF004 wrote: ↑28 Aug 2021 13:02
Makes no sense to me to trade a competent backup qb on a rookie contract.
Might as well get compensation for him. He is no longer in your plans as an organization. If your starter is lost you tank. No point in having a good backup unless youre developing him. Old school thinking.
A 6th round pick? Could get that in a comp pick though.
Feel like I shouldn’t have to say this, but I feel like you are making me. It is possible for QBs to miss just the rest of a game or just a few weeks and not the whole season requiring tanking. If the Jags are competitive in their week division, with 7 teams making the playoffs, you don’t really wanna tank the season if Lawrence goes down for a few weeks and you are like 6-5 at the time.
If youre starting QB goes down the chances of winning the game drop dramatically. Minshew had 2 years left on is deal where he wasnt going to play. He wasnt going to be worth anything 2 off seasons from now. Depending on the conditions its very likely Minsew nets the Jags better than a 6th because Hurts is ass.
Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2021
Posted: 30 Aug 2021 07:35
by paco
BF004 wrote: ↑29 Aug 2021 20:30
Lot for an old man.
Savage not gunna be a cheap resign I have a feeling.
Or Amos.
Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2021
Posted: 30 Aug 2021 08:48
by Yoop
paco wrote: ↑30 Aug 2021 07:35
BF004 wrote: ↑29 Aug 2021 20:30
Lot for an old man.
Savage not gunna be a cheap resign I have a feeling.
Or Amos.
Amos will want a ton, same with Savage, I think both will be tough resigns, I'am looking at Black taking over for Amos, and hopefully Vern Scott for Savage. Black is a tackling machine, and Vern has a lot of range to roam center field.
I's gonna be pretty hared to keep all our talented players.
Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2021
Posted: 30 Aug 2021 08:57
by Labrev
I would bite the bullet and pay Savage.
Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2021
Posted: 30 Aug 2021 10:17
by lupedafiasco
Yoop wrote: ↑30 Aug 2021 08:48
paco wrote: ↑30 Aug 2021 07:35
BF004 wrote: ↑29 Aug 2021 20:30
Lot for an old man.
Savage not gunna be a cheap resign I have a feeling.
Or Amos.
Amos will want a ton, same with Savage, I think both will be tough resigns, I'am looking at Black taking over for Amos, and hopefully Vern Scott for Savage. Black is a tackling machine, and Vern has a lot of range to roam center field.
I's gonna be pretty hared to keep all our talented players.
Savage still has 2 years and an option. Amos though we likely move on from. He will be 30 by the time his next deal starts.
Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2021
Posted: 30 Aug 2021 14:16
by YoHoChecko
Safeties are cheap. Savage will be a great player to keep. I mean, Harrison Smith and Jamal Adams are making less than some second-tier RTs, less than all the top tier DTs. There are ILBs making more. Having young talent to re-sign at safety and TE is pretty great bang for the buck, honestly.
Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2021
Posted: 31 Aug 2021 06:42
by APB
Speaking of safeties, Chris Banjo was cut yesterday by AZ.
I remember him as a limited but "try-hard" type player.
He turns 30 this season, for what it's worth. Would you rather have what he brings on defense AND as a ST standout or one of those "developing" safeties at the tail end of the roster?
Yeah, prolly me neither...
Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2021
Posted: 31 Aug 2021 09:07
by paco
Cam Newton was cut. Guess that means Mac Jones won the job.