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Agree with ya, there. But, based on interweb reactions, it would seem this is yet another avoidable embarrassment for the league.
I mean that's the quintessential reason why politics and budget talks get heated right?
Yeah, I don't get doing flyovers for a few people who are in attendance. It really is a waste to me.go pak go wrote: ↑20 Oct 2020 08:49I mean that's the quintessential reason why politics and budget talks get heated right?
Because it's the perception of "enough of your money" you get to feel you have a say, (because we all love to boast how we are proud tax payers) but such a little amount of any direct payment by you that ultimately you really don't pay for it at all.
So yeah. If it's "free" to me, sure do it. But I wouldn't pay $20 directly for it.
I also find it ridiculous they do that with hardly no fans in the stands.
So the Air Force doesn’t do fly overs just to entertain fans and audiences. Those are actually training missions for pilots. But because they’re up there anyways and they do it and it counts as a low level training mission for pilots. That or they’re on their way over somewhere else and adjusted the route a little to do a flyover.williewasgreat wrote: ↑20 Oct 2020 09:18Yeah, I don't get doing flyovers for a few people who are in attendance. It really is a waste to me.go pak go wrote: ↑20 Oct 2020 08:49I mean that's the quintessential reason why politics and budget talks get heated right?
Because it's the perception of "enough of your money" you get to feel you have a say, (because we all love to boast how we are proud tax payers) but such a little amount of any direct payment by you that ultimately you really don't pay for it at all.
So yeah. If it's "free" to me, sure do it. But I wouldn't pay $20 directly for it.
I also find it ridiculous they do that with hardly no fans in the stands.
It is advertising for the military. Personally I would rather that the money be spent on taking care of veterans instead of letting them die like happened in the Old Soldier's home in Holyoke MA last spring. fyi, this was the State of Massachusetts' fault. But they are right, if Biden Harris win the military is not going to be doing flyovers anymore, or any other kind of promotion or advertising. Not with regard to the NFL or anywhere else.williewasgreat wrote: ↑20 Oct 2020 09:18Yeah, I don't get doing flyovers for a few people who are in attendance. It really is a waste to me.go pak go wrote: ↑20 Oct 2020 08:49I mean that's the quintessential reason why politics and budget talks get heated right?
Because it's the perception of "enough of your money" you get to feel you have a say, (because we all love to boast how we are proud tax payers) but such a little amount of any direct payment by you that ultimately you really don't pay for it at all.
So yeah. If it's "free" to me, sure do it. But I wouldn't pay $20 directly for it.
I also find it ridiculous they do that with hardly no fans in the stands.
A joint effort by sports league and the Air Force explaining this would go a long way.lupedafiasco wrote: ↑20 Oct 2020 10:05So the Air Force doesn’t do fly overs just to entertain fans and audiences. Those are actually training missions for pilots. But because they’re up there anyways and they do it and it counts as a low level training mission for pilots. That or they’re on their way over somewhere else and adjusted the route a little to do a flyover.williewasgreat wrote: ↑20 Oct 2020 09:18Yeah, I don't get doing flyovers for a few people who are in attendance. It really is a waste to me.go pak go wrote: ↑20 Oct 2020 08:49
I mean that's the quintessential reason why politics and budget talks get heated right?
Because it's the perception of "enough of your money" you get to feel you have a say, (because we all love to boast how we are proud tax payers) but such a little amount of any direct payment by you that ultimately you really don't pay for it at all.
So yeah. If it's "free" to me, sure do it. But I wouldn't pay $20 directly for it.
I also find it ridiculous they do that with hardly no fans in the stands.
False.TheSkeptic wrote: ↑20 Oct 2020 10:07It is advertising for the military. Personally I would rather that the money be spent on taking care of veterans instead of letting them die like happened in the Old Soldier's home in Holyoke MA last spring. fyi, this was the State of Massachusetts' fault. But they are right, if Biden Harris win the military is not going to be doing flyovers anymore, or any other kind of promotion or advertising. Not with regard to the NFL or anywhere else.williewasgreat wrote: ↑20 Oct 2020 09:18Yeah, I don't get doing flyovers for a few people who are in attendance. It really is a waste to me.go pak go wrote: ↑20 Oct 2020 08:49
I mean that's the quintessential reason why politics and budget talks get heated right?
Because it's the perception of "enough of your money" you get to feel you have a say, (because we all love to boast how we are proud tax payers) but such a little amount of any direct payment by you that ultimately you really don't pay for it at all.
So yeah. If it's "free" to me, sure do it. But I wouldn't pay $20 directly for it.
I also find it ridiculous they do that with hardly no fans in the stands.
People really think we just go up there to do a fly over and that’s it? I thought it was common knowledge they’re up there doing missions. When they do C-130 fly overs, the plane I work on, usually the crew will knock out its low level training, unpressurized cabin training, and delivering parts to another base. KCs and fighters are usually doing low levels and an in flight refuel to knock out training. The Air Force has checks and balances. We literally have lawyers and finance workers who’s job is to go through what we spend on trips and make sure we aren’t wasting the air forces money.Pckfn23 wrote: ↑20 Oct 2020 10:08A joint effort by sports league and the Air Force explaining this would go a long way.lupedafiasco wrote: ↑20 Oct 2020 10:05So the Air Force doesn’t do fly overs just to entertain fans and audiences. Those are actually training missions for pilots. But because they’re up there anyways and they do it and it counts as a low level training mission for pilots. That or they’re on their way over somewhere else and adjusted the route a little to do a flyover.williewasgreat wrote: ↑20 Oct 2020 09:18
Yeah, I don't get doing flyovers for a few people who are in attendance. It really is a waste to me.
There absolutely are a lot of people that don't understand these are training missions that happen to be game flyovers.lupedafiasco wrote: ↑20 Oct 2020 10:16People really think we just go up there to do a fly over and that’s it? I thought it was common knowledge they’re up there doing missions. When they do C-130 fly overs, the plane I work on, usually the crew will knock out its low level training, unpressurized cabin training, and delivering parts to another base. KCs and fighters are usually doing low levels and an in flight refuel to knock out training. The Air Force has checks and balances. We literally have lawyers and finance workers who’s job is to go through what we spend on trips and make sure we aren’t wasting the air forces money.Pckfn23 wrote: ↑20 Oct 2020 10:08A joint effort by sports league and the Air Force explaining this would go a long way.lupedafiasco wrote: ↑20 Oct 2020 10:05
So the Air Force doesn’t do fly overs just to entertain fans and audiences. Those are actually training missions for pilots. But because they’re up there anyways and they do it and it counts as a low level training mission for pilots. That or they’re on their way over somewhere else and adjusted the route a little to do a flyover.
From their POV, makes sense, but society should really stop poisoning their kids' minds with the idea that going to kill innocents and die to secure the oligarch class's financial interests is a noble pursuit and drop these kinds of things altogether. (Cry about it, bootlickers).
This really shouldn’t be in this thread. That being said this is a really ignorant statement if you believe all we do is “kill innocents.”Labrev wrote: ↑20 Oct 2020 11:10From their POV, makes sense, but society should really stop poisoning their kids' minds with the idea that going to kill innocents and die to secure the oligarch class's financial interests is a noble pursuit and drop these kinds of things altogether. (Cry about it, bootlickers).
Honestly I had no idea about this. I agree. The military needs to do better education about this.lupedafiasco wrote: ↑20 Oct 2020 10:16People really think we just go up there to do a fly over and that’s it? I thought it was common knowledge they’re up there doing missions. When they do C-130 fly overs, the plane I work on, usually the crew will knock out its low level training, unpressurized cabin training, and delivering parts to another base. KCs and fighters are usually doing low levels and an in flight refuel to knock out training. The Air Force has checks and balances. We literally have lawyers and finance workers who’s job is to go through what we spend on trips and make sure we aren’t wasting the air forces money.Pckfn23 wrote: ↑20 Oct 2020 10:08A joint effort by sports league and the Air Force explaining this would go a long way.lupedafiasco wrote: ↑20 Oct 2020 10:05
So the Air Force doesn’t do fly overs just to entertain fans and audiences. Those are actually training missions for pilots. But because they’re up there anyways and they do it and it counts as a low level training mission for pilots. That or they’re on their way over somewhere else and adjusted the route a little to do a flyover.
MM.......NFL Network's Jane Slater reports Cowboys players have begun forcefully criticizing the coaching staff after originally agreeing to "keep things internal."
“Totally unprepared," were the words of one player. "They don’t teach. They don’t have any sense of adjusting on the fly.” Another added “they just aren’t good at their jobs." Other than that, we hope things are going well. New coach Mike McCarthy sold an offseason narrative of coming into the 21st century and learning analytics, but none of the analytics in the world can make up for having Mike Nolan as your defensive coordinator. The Cowboys have allowed an astonishing 218 points through their first six games, which is tied for the fourth most in NFL history. Dak Prescott's season-ending ankle injury gives McCarthy an alibi, but this could turn into a one-and-done situation. It wouldn't be the first time with a retread. Of course, all of this ignores that the 2-4 Cowboys still sit atop the horrid NFC East.