Changes to Make

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[NCF]

On a semi-related note, the documentary about this song on Netflix was fantastic.

[LombardiTime]

I am apparently in the minority who is not all that down on Jordan Love's performance this season.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think he progressed much if at all in 2024 but I still see a lot of promise in his game.

That said, I am apparently also an outlier when it comes to how good the wide receivers are.

More specifically, I think Doubs is a physically limited possession receiver with little upside and now a track record of concussions. I also think his quitting on the team during the season is a huge red flag that the team ignores at its peril.

Watson is physically gifted, but after three seasons I have serious doubts about his durability. I also view his on the field play as being not much better than what MVS gave us. Coming off of an ACL, does anyone seriously expect Watson to contribute much in 2025 -- his contract year? I sure don't.

I asee Wicks as a 5th round pick with poor hands. He also lacks explosiveness.

The only current guy I have much faith in is Jayden Reed and that is purely as a slot receiver.

Comparing the Pack's WR room with those of the NFC teams still left in the playoffs shows GB's talent is not close to its competitors.

Washington (Terry McLaurin)
Detroit (Amon-Ra St. Brown & Jameson Williams)
Philly (AJ Brown & DeVonta Smith)
LA Rams (Puka Nacua & Cooper Kupp)
Minnesota (Justin Jefferson & Jordan Addison)

I expect that if the Packers give Jordan Love some better receivers to throw to his production will increase correspondingly.

I actually agree with what you are saying, with the exception of Watson. I think Watson is a much better player than MVS, He can make plays over the middle and is a pretty decent blocker. Unfortunately, he does seem too fragile for the NFL. I do feel we need a significant upgrade to our WRs. We need WRs who can actually get open more often and this will help make Love a better QB.

Years 1-3 for MVS = 97 catches for 1,723 yards (17.8 ypc) and 10 TDs.
Years 1-3 for Watson = 96 catches for 1,653 yards (16.9 ypc) and 14 TDs.

I'd love for Watson to be a much better player than MVS was for us, but, even before suffering the ACL, Christian just was not that different than MVS even down to the painful deep ball drops.

[go pak go]

The difference between MVS and Watson is the run blocking. Yoho hit the nail on the head with that.

[Drj820]

You don’t get a prize for being the youngest nfl team. You get a prize for fielding a team that wins playoff games. Maybe being youngest team isn’t actually a cool thing?

[Yoop]

I am apparently in the minority who is not all that down on Jordan Love's performance this season.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think he progressed much if at all in 2024 but I still see a lot of promise in his game.

That said, I am apparently also an outlier when it comes to how good the wide receivers are.

More specifically, I think Doubs is a physically limited possession receiver with little upside and now a track record of concussions. I also think his quitting on the team during the season is a huge red flag that the team ignores at its peril.

Watson is physically gifted, but after three seasons I have serious doubts about his durability. I also view his on the field play as being not much better than what MVS gave us. Coming off of an ACL, does anyone seriously expect Watson to contribute much in 2025 -- his contract year? I sure don't.

I asee Wicks as a 5th round pick with poor hands. He also lacks explosiveness.

The only current guy I have much faith in is Jayden Reed and that is purely as a slot receiver.

Comparing the Pack's WR room with those of the NFC teams still left in the playoffs shows GB's talent is not close to its competitors.

Washington (Terry McLaurin)
Detroit (Amon-Ra St. Brown & Jameson Williams)
Philly (AJ Brown & DeVonta Smith)
LA Rams (Puka Nacua & Cooper Kupp)
Minnesota (Justin Jefferson & Jordan Addison)

I expect that if the Packers give Jordan Love some better receivers to throw to his production will increase correspondingly.

I actually agree with what you are saying, with the exception of Watson. I think Watson is a much better player than MVS, He can make plays over the middle and is a pretty decent blocker. Unfortunately, he does seem too fragile for the NFL. I do feel we need a significant upgrade to our WRs. We need WRs who can actually get open more often and this will help make Love a better QB.

Years 1-3 for MVS = 97 catches for 1,723 yards (17.8 ypc) and 10 TDs.
Years 1-3 for Watson = 96 catches for 1,653 yards (16.9 ypc) and 14 TDs.

I'd love for Watson to be a much better player than MVS was for us, but, even before suffering the ACL, Christian just was not that different than MVS even down to the painful deep ball drops.

MVS career catch per targets = 49%, WAtson 56 %, there's a reason WAtson was considered late first or early second round pick, and Scantling was a 5th rounder, not to say that catch rate is that great, but WAtsons had basically a rookie QB, and MVS has had several of the best

[Drj820]

MVS is all about the wage

Get him in here for 4m per year…let’s do it

5m…maybe

Anymore…no thanks