From Lambeau to Lombardi, Holmgren, McCarthy and LaFleur and from Starr to Favre, Rodgers and now Jordan Love we’re talking Super Bowl Champion Green Bay Packers football. This Packers Forum is the place to talk NFL football and everything Packers. So, pull up a keyboard, make yourself at home and let’s talk some Packers football.
I keep seeing LVN packaged in a player/picks deal for Garrett. If there's gonna be a player included, my money says it'd be Gary.
Sure, it'd be painful...for the Packers. Not so much for the Browns. For them, it's a bargain. And Gary provides actual value in compensation rather than what many Packer fans seem to believe with LVN.
My reason for LVN or Enegbare is the Browns simply need a player and they are in cap hell. They are -$27.5MM in cap space right now for 2025 with top 51. They can't really trade highly paid player for highly paid player. That wouldn't really help them. What they need is to dump Garrett. Get future captial that let's them talent at a low cap cost and a guy to just take snaps this year and next year at a low cap cost.
Gary will cost the Browns basically $59MM in cash out the door the next 3 years (that will hit their cap).
LVN will cost the Browns $5.5MM in cash out the door the next 2 years
Enegbare will cost the Browns $3.2MM the next year.
LVN and Enegbare aren't good but they aren't terrible. They are competetent pass rushers and that's why I think they may want them if we were to make the deal.
I keep seeing LVN packaged in a player/picks deal for Garrett. If there's gonna be a player included, my money says it'd be Gary.
Sure, it'd be painful...for the Packers. Not so much for the Browns. For them, it's a bargain. And Gary provides actual value in compensation rather than what many Packer fans seem to believe with LVN.
My reason for LVN or Enegbare is the Browns simply need a player and they are in cap hell. They are -$27.5MM in cap space right now for 2025 with top 51. They can't really trade highly paid player for highly paid player. That wouldn't really help them. What they need is to dump Garrett. Get future captial that let's them talent at a low cap cost and a guy to just take snaps this year and next year at a low cap cost.
Gary will cost the Browns basically $59MM in cash out the door the next 3 years (that will hit their cap).
LVN will cost the Browns $5.5MM in cash out the door the next 2 years
Enegbare will cost the Browns $3.2MM the next year.
LVN and Enegbare aren't good but they aren't terrible. They are competetent pass rushers and that's why I think they may want them if we were to make the deal.
Speaking of their cap, how do they move Garret without making their cap situation worse. Could they mark the trade as a Post June 1 trade? Is that something that can be done?
Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."
I keep seeing LVN packaged in a player/picks deal for Garrett. If there's gonna be a player included, my money says it'd be Gary.
Sure, it'd be painful...for the Packers. Not so much for the Browns. For them, it's a bargain. And Gary provides actual value in compensation rather than what many Packer fans seem to believe with LVN.
My reason for LVN or Enegbare is the Browns simply need a player and they are in cap hell. They are -$27.5MM in cap space right now for 2025 with top 51. They can't really trade highly paid player for highly paid player. That wouldn't really help them. What they need is to dump Garrett. Get future captial that let's them talent at a low cap cost and a guy to just take snaps this year and next year at a low cap cost.
Gary will cost the Browns basically $59MM in cash out the door the next 3 years (that will hit their cap).
LVN will cost the Browns $5.5MM in cash out the door the next 2 years
Enegbare will cost the Browns $3.2MM the next year.
LVN and Enegbare aren't good but they aren't terrible. They are competetent pass rushers and that's why I think they may want them if we were to make the deal.
Speaking of their cap, how do they move Garret without making their cap situation worse. Could they mark the trade as a Post June 1 trade? Is that something that can be done?
You can announce it but not file the paperwork is one way (similar to players announcing contract acceptance during the tampering period).
I also thought I heard the deal can be labled a Post June 1 after some point after the draft but I don't know for sure because we went through that with Rodgers and the Jets deal
Basically it could be announced but Garrett is still a member of the Browns until it can officially be logged wit the league. What I don't know is if a 2025 draft pick can be used if it is Post June 1. I would honestly doubt it could be as you can't transfer an asset yet.
Lot's of intersting things with the Garrett situation.
Oh my gawd and the Vikings could use a stop gap quarterback....
I don't know if Rodgers could do that. Favre obviously wanted to stick it to us, but I think Rodgers still feels like he is a Packer at heart. Last season he referred to us as "we" on the Pat McAfee show, even though he was on the Jets. I don't know if he could go to the Queens.
Oh my gawd and the Vikings could use a stop gap quarterback....
I don't know if Rodgers could do that. Favre obviously wanted to stick it to us, but I think Rodgers still feels like he is a Packer at heart. Last season he referred to us as "we" on the Pat McAfee show, even though he was on the Jets. I don't know if he could go to the Queens.
He's always been the Anti-Favre so I doubt he'd screw with his Packer legacy for a year.
His best bet might be the other NY. Daboll is a great offensive and QB coach who could actually design an offense that works for him. No succession plan at QB, could really use a bridge guy there. I think(?) their OL is decent, maybe need to shore up a few spots but they have the LT and some solid pass-pro guys, plus some nice receiving targets with a budding star in Nabers.
But he probably wore out his welcome in New York too much.
He does have his house in Tennessee and they need all the help they can get at QB, but their OL is a disaster, would probably force him into retirement once and for all.
“Most other nations don't allow a terrorist to be their leader.”
“... Yet so many allow their leaders to be terrorists.”—Magneto
all in, I don't care, as long as it's Max or Myles, first names matter, they have to start with a M as in Mike, or Mick, or Mitchell
thing is it could amount to the Jet effect , look at how Garrett acted once Adams started eating some of his touches, we use Max a few snaps more than Gary, or his prodigy LVN, and they may revolt the same way or just maybe Max or Myles will show them how pass rush is supposed to look, either way, who cares, we just want to bury opposing QB's, the more good pass rushers, the better.
, look at how Garrett acted once Adams started eating some of his touches, we use Max a few snaps more than Gary, or his prodigy LVN, and they may revolt the same way 
or just maybe Max or Myles will show them how pass rush is supposed to look, either way, who cares, we just want to bury opposing QB's, the more good pass rushers, the better. 
