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Re: Packers Prospect Interest
Posted: 22 Apr 2022 12:59
by paco
I had bumped him down a bit due to some of his character flags. Seems he's lazy. Still draftable. Some concern about arm length for the outside, but I think he could easily play OT. He's still a bit longer than Bulaga was.
Re: Packers Prospect Interest
Posted: 22 Apr 2022 13:04
by paco
forgot to post this one the other day.
Re: Packers Prospect Interest
Posted: 23 Apr 2022 15:39
by paco
We're taking a safety.
Re: Packers Prospect Interest
Posted: 23 Apr 2022 15:40
by paco
Re: Packers Prospect Interest
Posted: 23 Apr 2022 17:37
by Realist
paco wrote: ↑23 Apr 2022 15:39
We're taking a safety.
Absolutely have to take a safety. And early in the draft. Not a developmental guy.
Re: Packers Prospect Interest
Posted: 23 Apr 2022 18:26
by Drj820
Let’s just sign earl thomas
Re: Packers Prospect Interest
Posted: 23 Apr 2022 19:29
by Realist
Drj820 wrote: ↑23 Apr 2022 18:26
Let’s just sign earl thomas
I think I will pass on Earl. I just want a safety that even pretends to hit someone hard. Gotta be someone in the first two rounds to accomplish that.
Re: Packers Prospect Interest
Posted: 24 Apr 2022 11:33
by Labrev
'Love what I'm reading about Brisker from his scouting report, would be happy with him if we can't land Hill or Pitre.
Re: Packers Prospect Interest
Posted: 24 Apr 2022 11:56
by YoHoChecko
Labrev wrote: ↑24 Apr 2022 11:33
'Love what I'm reading about Brisker from his scouting report, would be happy with him if we can't land Hill or Pitre.
Honestly, I like so many safeties in this class that, aside from Hill, who is just perfect for what we'd need, I have a hard time zeroing in on any one of them; and a hard time pulling the trigger on any of them when there are so many more I like down the line.
I've never seen a class of safeties with so many guys running in the 4.3s; I've always said that for safeties you want the fast guys who can't cut/mirror well enough to be corners, not the slow guys who can's run well enough to be corners. And there are a ton this year.
Like look at the safety rankings in The Beast, with yellow highlighting the 4.3s and orange highlighting the 4.4s
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You throw a dart and you hit a safety with elite speed! You just gotta scope out his ability to process and read things/learn/develop.
Re: Packers Prospect Interest
Posted: 24 Apr 2022 12:45
by BF004
paco wrote: ↑23 Apr 2022 15:39
We're taking a safety.
I’d gladly take two, especially if one has some strengths in the slot.
Re: Packers Prospect Interest
Posted: 24 Apr 2022 12:59
by paco
BF004 wrote: ↑24 Apr 2022 12:45
paco wrote: ↑23 Apr 2022 15:39
We're taking a safety.
I’d gladly take two, especially if one has some strengths in the slot.
A few combos would work. Hill or Pitre in the slot.
Re: Packers Prospect Interest
Posted: 24 Apr 2022 13:55
by BF004
Where safeties line up has been one of the most welcomed additions to our amateur level scouting.
Very valuable for CBs and WRs too.
Re: Packers Prospect Interest
Posted: 24 Apr 2022 15:44
by Realist
BF004 wrote: ↑24 Apr 2022 12:45
paco wrote: ↑23 Apr 2022 15:39
We're taking a safety.
I’d gladly take two, especially if one has some strengths in the slot.
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/darnell-s ... f79bcf3445
Re: Packers Prospect Interest
Posted: 24 Apr 2022 16:26
by BF004
I would love to see him play more.
We have a fantastic 5 player top in the secondary and nothing after. Maybe another safety with some more range than a guy like Amos could free up Savage to play up more
I 100% pick up Savage’s 5th year option, not sure beyond that. But potential starting safeties and depth with snaps needed this year even sans injury are a need.
So yeah, I’m totally down taking two versatile safeties for many reasons.
Re: Packers Prospect Interest
Posted: 24 Apr 2022 16:34
by paco
Can someone pull the full list?
Re: Packers Prospect Interest
Posted: 24 Apr 2022 16:37
by Realist
BF004 wrote: ↑24 Apr 2022 16:26
I would love to see him play more.
We have a fantastic 5 player top in the secondary and nothing after. Maybe another safety with some more range than a guy like Amos could free up Savage to play up more
I 100% pick up Savage’s 5th year option, not sure beyond that. But potential starting safeties and depth with snaps needed this year even sans injury are a need.
So yeah, I’m totally down taking two versatile safeties for many reasons.
An undersized safety that can play slot is a corner to me. Just a diff in opinion. Savage cannot support the run. Also cannot cover a TE.
Re: Packers Prospect Interest
Posted: 24 Apr 2022 16:49
by bud fox
YoHoChecko wrote: ↑24 Apr 2022 11:56
Labrev wrote: ↑24 Apr 2022 11:33
'Love what I'm reading about Brisker from his scouting report, would be happy with him if we can't land Hill or Pitre.
Honestly, I like so many safeties in this class that, aside from Hill, who is just perfect for what we'd need, I have a hard time zeroing in on any one of them; and a hard time pulling the trigger on any of them when there are so many more I like down the line.
I've never seen a class of safeties with so many guys running in the 4.3s; I've always said that for safeties you want the fast guys who can't cut/mirror well enough to be corners, not the slow guys who can's run well enough to be corners. And there are a ton this year.
Like look at the safety rankings in The Beast, with yellow highlighting the 4.3s and orange highlighting the 4.4s
image.png
You throw a dart and you hit a safety with elite speed! You just gotta scope out his ability to process and read things/learn/develop.
Something must've been wrong with the clock this year.
I am preferring to compare this year's times against each other than against other years. The number of 4.3s overall is not normal.
Re: Packers Prospect Interest
Posted: 24 Apr 2022 17:12
by Realist
bud fox wrote: ↑24 Apr 2022 16:49
YoHoChecko wrote: ↑24 Apr 2022 11:56
Labrev wrote: ↑24 Apr 2022 11:33
'Love what I'm reading about Brisker from his scouting report, would be happy with him if we can't land Hill or Pitre.
Honestly, I like so many safeties in this class that, aside from Hill, who is just perfect for what we'd need, I have a hard time zeroing in on any one of them; and a hard time pulling the trigger on any of them when there are so many more I like down the line.
I've never seen a class of safeties with so many guys running in the 4.3s; I've always said that for safeties you want the fast guys who can't cut/mirror well enough to be corners, not the slow guys who can's run well enough to be corners. And there are a ton this year.
Like look at the safety rankings in The Beast, with yellow highlighting the 4.3s and orange highlighting the 4.4s
image.png
You throw a dart and you hit a safety with elite speed! You just gotta scope out his ability to process and read things/learn/develop.
Something must've been wrong with the clock this year.
I am preferring to compare this year's times against each other than against other years. The number of 4.3s overall is not normal.
I tend to agree with this. My guess is that teams don't rely on 40 times like the press and fans do..Really doesn't matter. Just something to get clicks.
Re: Packers Prospect Interest
Posted: 24 Apr 2022 21:37
by Yoop
Realist wrote: ↑24 Apr 2022 16:37
BF004 wrote: ↑24 Apr 2022 16:26
I would love to see him play more.
We have a fantastic 5 player top in the secondary and nothing after. Maybe another safety with some more range than a guy like Amos could free up Savage to play up more
I 100% pick up Savage’s 5th year option, not sure beyond that. But potential starting safeties and depth with snaps needed this year even sans injury are a need.
So yeah, I’m totally down taking two versatile safeties for many reasons.
An undersized safety that can play slot is a corner to me. Just a diff in opinion. Savage cannot support the run. Also cannot cover a TE.
Savage is best when allowed to roam, and is actually better playing up, your listening to comments like "takes poor angles against the run" yet the guy gets 70 tackles a season, Savage was a top safety the last half of the 2020 season, imo Savages issues last year had to do with scheme, not only will we pick up Savage year 5, I expect we'll resign him, imo Savage is far better then the comments I hear about him, and Savage is a 4.36 timed safety.
I remember a receiver was beating Keven King like a unwanted step child a few years back, Pettine stuck Savage on him and that was the last reception that receiver had that day, why people say Savage can't cover doesn't even make sense, his coverage skills is what caused GUty to jump 9 slots to get him.
Re: Packers Prospect Interest
Posted: 25 Apr 2022 11:45
by Realist
Yoop wrote: ↑24 Apr 2022 21:37
Realist wrote: ↑24 Apr 2022 16:37
BF004 wrote: ↑24 Apr 2022 16:26
I would love to see him play more.
We have a fantastic 5 player top in the secondary and nothing after. Maybe another safety with some more range than a guy like Amos could free up Savage to play up more
I 100% pick up Savage’s 5th year option, not sure beyond that. But potential starting safeties and depth with snaps needed this year even sans injury are a need.
So yeah, I’m totally down taking two versatile safeties for many reasons.
An undersized safety that can play slot is a corner to me. Just a diff in opinion. Savage cannot support the run. Also cannot cover a TE.
Savage is best when allowed to roam, and is actually better playing up, your listening to comments like "takes poor angles against the run" yet the guy gets 70 tackles a season, Savage was a top safety the last half of the 2020 season, imo Savages issues last year had to do with scheme, not only will we pick up Savage year 5, I expect we'll resign him, imo Savage is far better then the comments I hear about him, and Savage is a 4.36 timed safety.
I remember a receiver was beating Keven King like a unwanted step child a few years back, Pettine stuck Savage on him and that was the last reception that receiver had that day, why people say Savage can't cover doesn't even make sense, his coverage skills is what caused GUty to jump 9 slots to get him.
Lock him up yoop. Sounds like a keeper.