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Robert Tonya is a JAG. The only hope would be one season removed he is faster but it was pretty apparent he lost a step. Just no separation or run after the catch ability.
no kidding, I don't get that comment, no one see's any of the 3 as more then marginal talent, and all 3 are players a GM try's to improve upon, I don't know who Herman is listening to that are complaining, it's sure not anyone here, Lazard got 11 mil. because he was our most consistent WR last year, that says more about the GB Packers then it does Allen Lazard.
Lazard got $11MM because he is an average WR2 veteran which is the going rate for an average WR2 veteran.Yoop wrote: ↑19 Mar 2023 10:05no kidding, I don't get that comment, no one see's any of the 3 as more then marginal talent, and all 3 are players a GM try's to improve upon, I don't know who Herman is listening to that are complaining, it's sure not anyone here, Lazard got 11 mil. because he was our most consistent WR last year, that says more about the GB Packers then it does Allen Lazard.
the defense of Packer WR's that don't receive 2nd contracts is mind boggling, Lazard never was a #2 receiver an d never will be considered one any where he plays ever again, 11 mil is what #3 receivers will get in FA this season and in the future, he had his best season last year, yes he improved, but his target and receptions increased because the rest of the group either sucked, where hurt or lacked experience.go pak go wrote: ↑19 Mar 2023 10:14Lazard got $11MM because he is an average WR2 veteran which is the going rate for an average WR2 veteran.Yoop wrote: ↑19 Mar 2023 10:05no kidding, I don't get that comment, no one see's any of the 3 as more then marginal talent, and all 3 are players a GM try's to improve upon, I don't know who Herman is listening to that are complaining, it's sure not anyone here, Lazard got 11 mil. because he was our most consistent WR last year, that says more about the GB Packers then it does Allen Lazard.
There are 33 WRs in the NFL that make $10MM or more per season. I assure $11 Million contracts are not what "#3 WRs will get this FA season and in the future"Yoop wrote: ↑19 Mar 2023 11:07the defense of Packer WR's that don't receive 2nd contracts is mind boggling, Lazard never was a #2 receiver an d never will be considered one any where he plays ever again, 11 mil is what #3 receivers will get in FA this season and in the future, he had his best season last year, yes he improved, but his target and receptions increased because the rest of the group either sucked, where hurt or lacked experience.go pak go wrote: ↑19 Mar 2023 10:14Lazard got $11MM because he is an average WR2 veteran which is the going rate for an average WR2 veteran.Yoop wrote: ↑19 Mar 2023 10:05
no kidding, I don't get that comment, no one see's any of the 3 as more then marginal talent, and all 3 are players a GM try's to improve upon, I don't know who Herman is listening to that are complaining, it's sure not anyone here, Lazard got 11 mil. because he was our most consistent WR last year, that says more about the GB Packers then it does Allen Lazard.
Lazard got 11m from the Jets to help recruit Rodgers. Make him happy. No Rodgers, and no way in heck he ends up a Jet at that rate. They simply don’t even need him. And he is absolutely at best their WR3. Garret Wilson and Elijah Moore are actually wide recievers, not run blockersgo pak go wrote: ↑19 Mar 2023 10:14Lazard got $11MM because he is an average WR2 veteran which is the going rate for an average WR2 veteran.Yoop wrote: ↑19 Mar 2023 10:05no kidding, I don't get that comment, no one see's any of the 3 as more then marginal talent, and all 3 are players a GM try's to improve upon, I don't know who Herman is listening to that are complaining, it's sure not anyone here, Lazard got 11 mil. because he was our most consistent WR last year, that says more about the GB Packers then it does Allen Lazard.
Right. He doesn't end up a Jet. But he does end up elsewhere similar to that rate. The Jets don't sign him for $11MM unless there are other teams they had to compete against to lure him at that price.Drj820 wrote: ↑19 Mar 2023 11:37Lazard got 11m from the Jets to help recruit Rodgers. Make him happy. No Rodgers, and no way in heck he ends up a Jet at that rate. They simply don’t even need him. And he is absolutely at best their WR3. Garret Wilson and Elijah Moore are actually wide recievers, not run blockersgo pak go wrote: ↑19 Mar 2023 10:14Lazard got $11MM because he is an average WR2 veteran which is the going rate for an average WR2 veteran.Yoop wrote: ↑19 Mar 2023 10:05
no kidding, I don't get that comment, no one see's any of the 3 as more then marginal talent, and all 3 are players a GM try's to improve upon, I don't know who Herman is listening to that are complaining, it's sure not anyone here, Lazard got 11 mil. because he was our most consistent WR last year, that says more about the GB Packers then it does Allen Lazard.
Actually you don’t know that. The Jets had to sign him at a rate that he would say Yes to the offer immediately. They needed Lazard to say yes, so they could then show 12 they were serious about honoring his wishes. So they had to not only offer MORE than others, it had to be so much more that Lazard would stop desiring to listen or visit other offers.go pak go wrote: ↑19 Mar 2023 11:42Right. He doesn't end up a Jet. But he does end up elsewhere similar to that rate. The Jets don't sign him for $11MM unless there are other teams they had to compete against to lure him at that price.Drj820 wrote: ↑19 Mar 2023 11:37Lazard got 11m from the Jets to help recruit Rodgers. Make him happy. No Rodgers, and no way in heck he ends up a Jet at that rate. They simply don’t even need him. And he is absolutely at best their WR3. Garret Wilson and Elijah Moore are actually wide recievers, not run blockers
This isn't mind blowing stuff here.
Lazard is a hybrid WR/TE, he has a fit in a scheme that does a lot of play action, perfect fit with what Hackett will bring to there offense, we may have brought him back right here cept we don't have 11 mil to spend on a player like that right now.go pak go wrote: ↑19 Mar 2023 11:37There are 33 WRs in the NFL that make $10MM or more per season. I assure $11 Million contracts are not what "#3 WRs will get this FA season and in the future"Yoop wrote: ↑19 Mar 2023 11:07the defense of Packer WR's that don't receive 2nd contracts is mind boggling, Lazard never was a #2 receiver an d never will be considered one any where he plays ever again, 11 mil is what #3 receivers will get in FA this season and in the future, he had his best season last year, yes he improved, but his target and receptions increased because the rest of the group either sucked, where hurt or lacked experience.
At that price, teams are simply drafting WRs to be 3rd on the depth chart.
good point, the pickings are slim, which raises the price of those availableBF004 wrote: ↑19 Mar 2023 11:57"Actually you don’t know that."
Then here are a lot of things that I don't actually know.
It was roughly 50/50 in the media/pundits, on who the best WR was in FA. Was usually Lazard or Jacobi Meyers, yes, not a great WR FA group.
Lazard got 4/44, Meyers got 3/33. Lazard got more guaranteed, but Meyers got more guaranteed as % of contract.
That is the going rate for someone coming off a rookie contract who you can bank on to get you in that 600-900 yard range.
Jakobi Meyers, another nice WR3 behind davante Adams and Hunter RenfrowYoop wrote: ↑19 Mar 2023 12:06good point, the pickings are slim, which raises the price of those availableBF004 wrote: ↑19 Mar 2023 11:57"Actually you don’t know that."
Then here are a lot of things that I don't actually know.
It was roughly 50/50 in the media/pundits, on who the best WR was in FA. Was usually Lazard or Jacobi Meyers, yes, not a great WR FA group.
Lazard got 4/44, Meyers got 3/33. Lazard got more guaranteed, but Meyers got more guaranteed as % of contract.
That is the going rate for someone coming off a rookie contract who you can bank on to get you in that 600-900 yard range.
It's what Teddy T did here his first 9 years as GM, one of Ron Wolfs comments after leaving, I should have brought in a few better receivers for Favre, Ted took heed to that, well till 2014 anyway, then the defense wins championship mantra took over
