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Re: POST GAME: WildCard at Dallas WIN
Posted: 15 Jan 2024 10:49
by APB
Pure gold…
Re: POST GAME: WildCard at Dallas WIN
Posted: 15 Jan 2024 10:50
by Raptorman
I'm going to say this first. Love looked really good in the Cowboys game.
Now for some cold water on your "hot" QB. While Love looked really good the last half of the season, the Packers have a problem. On offense, they only scored an average of 21.7 ppg. That is just below the league average of 21.8 ppg for 2023. No team can continue to win in the league with that kind of offensive production unless they have one hell of a defense. Let me give you some perspective. The Bills defense has averaged 18.6 ppg during Allen's tenure. Allen has averaged 25.9 ppg on offense in games he has played. And they have managed to do what? Win some playoff games.
Now, I'm not saying Love isn't any good. But I'm just telling you to be careful of your love for Love at this point. If that offensive production does not pick up, Love is not going to do it for you. Because I don't see the Packer's defense holding the other team to under 15 ppg in the future. And in order to really win on a regular basis, you need a good 6 to 7-point difference between offense and defense.
Re: POST GAME: WildCard at Dallas WIN
Posted: 15 Jan 2024 10:52
by lupedafiasco
Raptorman wrote: ↑15 Jan 2024 10:50
I'm going to say this first. Love looked really good in the Cowboys game.
Now for some cold water on your "hot" QB. While Love looked really good the last half of the season, the Packers have a problem. On offense, they only scored an average of 21.7 ppg. That is just below the league average of 21.8 ppg for 2023. No team can continue to win in the league with that kind of offensive production unless they have one hell of a defense. Let me give you some perspective. The Bills defense has averaged 18.6 ppg during Allen's tenure. Allen has averaged 25.9 ppg on offense in games he has played. And they have managed to do what? Win some playoff games.
Now, I'm not saying Love isn't any good. But I'm just telling you to be careful of your love for Love at this point. If that offensive production does not pick up, Love is not going to do it for you. Because I don't see the Packer's defense holding the other team to under 15 ppg in the future. And in order to really win on a regular basis, you need a good 6 to 7-point difference between offense and defense.
Well in the playoffs he’s averaging 48. Go on with your no QB having ass.
Re: POST GAME: WildCard at Dallas WIN
Posted: 15 Jan 2024 10:53
by APB
Raptorman wrote: ↑15 Jan 2024 10:50
I'm going to say this first. Love looked really good in the Cowboys game.
Now for some cold water on your "hot" QB. While Love looked really good the last half of the season, the Packers have a problem. On offense, they only scored an average of 21.7 ppg. That is just below the league average of 21.8 ppg for 2023. No team can continue to win in the league with that kind of offensive production unless they have one hell of a defense. Let me give you some perspective. The Bills defense has averaged 18.6 ppg during Allen's tenure. Allen has averaged 25.9 ppg on offense in games he has played. And they have managed to do what? Win some playoff games.
Now, I'm not saying Love isn't any good. But I'm just telling you to be careful of your love for Love at this point. If that offensive production does not pick up, Love is not going to do it for you. Because I don't see the Packer's defense holding the other team to under 15 ppg in the future. And in order to really win on a regular basis, you need a good 6 to 7-point difference between offense and defense.
The LAST THING I’m worried about going forward is the offense.
Save that cold water for next time you get your playoff hopes up again with the Vikings. #SKOLOL
Re: POST GAME: WildCard at Dallas WIN
Posted: 15 Jan 2024 10:53
by go pak go
Raptorman wrote: ↑15 Jan 2024 10:50
I'm going to say this first. Love looked really good in the Cowboys game.
Now for some cold water on your "hot" QB. While Love looked really good the last half of the season, the Packers have a problem. On offense, they only scored an average of 21.7 ppg. That is just below the league average of 21.8 ppg for 2023. No team can continue to win in the league with that kind of offensive production unless they have one hell of a defense. Let me give you some perspective. The Bills defense has averaged 18.6 ppg during Allen's tenure. Allen has averaged 25.9 ppg on offense in games he has played. And they have managed to do what? Win some playoff games.
Now, I'm not saying Love isn't any good. But I'm just telling you to be careful of your love for Love at this point. If that offensive production does not pick up, Love is not going to do it for you. Because I don't see the Packer's defense holding the other team to under 15 ppg in the future. And in order to really win on a regular basis, you need a good 6 to 7-point difference between offense and defense.
A. You will very likely get to say you're right because more than likely we will likely lose - it's just math.
B. Our offensive production is insane. Points don't tell our story at all. The Packers are so young and as a result leave a TON of points on the field. The primary thing GB needs to do is realize their potential. They can put up 30+ on anyone. They have absolutely dominated 3 weeks in a row vs very, very good defenses.
C. Our offense should really be looked at Thanksgiving on. We hit the low on October 29 and have been skyrocketing since. The current Packers offense is truly lethal.
But yes. More than likely they will hit a slump and you will get to say you were right.
Re: POST GAME: WildCard at Dallas WIN
Posted: 15 Jan 2024 10:55
by Yoop
Raptorman wrote: ↑15 Jan 2024 10:50
I'm going to say this first. Love looked really good in the Cowboys game.
Now for some cold water on your "hot" QB. While Love looked really good the last half of the season, the Packers have a problem. On offense, they only scored an average of 21.7 ppg. That is just below the league average of 21.8 ppg for 2023. No team can continue to win in the league with that kind of offensive production unless they have one hell of a defense. Let me give you some perspective. The Bills defense has averaged 18.6 ppg during Allen's tenure. Allen has averaged 25.9 ppg on offense in games he has played. And they have managed to do what? Win some playoff games.
Now, I'm not saying Love isn't any good. But I'm just telling you to be careful of your love for Love at this point. If that offensive production does not pick up, Love is not going to do it for you. Because I don't see the Packer's defense holding the other team to under 15 ppg in the future. And in order to really win on a regular basis, you need a good 6 to 7-point difference between offense and defense.
compared to Cousins Love is a freaking GOD, nice try
Re: POST GAME: WildCard at Dallas WIN
Posted: 15 Jan 2024 10:59
by Yoop
Labrev wrote: ↑15 Jan 2024 10:02
go pak go wrote: ↑15 Jan 2024 09:20
Yoop wrote: ↑15 Jan 2024 09:15
Aaron " Hat Trick" Jones, and "Jorden Love is God " should be painted on every under pass in Wisconsin
no.
keep them human. Idolozie them after they retire.
Yeah let's not do the slavish cult worship thing again.
I intend to adore Love as much or more then Rodgers and I expect my slavish, cultish adoration for him to upset you, and nothing will please me more.
is that better APB ?
Re: POST GAME: WildCard at Dallas WIN
Posted: 15 Jan 2024 11:00
by APB
Yoop wrote: ↑15 Jan 2024 10:59
Labrev wrote: ↑15 Jan 2024 10:02
go pak go wrote: ↑15 Jan 2024 09:20
no.
keep them human. Idolozie them after they retire.
Yeah let's not do the slavish cult worship thing again.
I intend to adore Love as much or more then Rodgers and I expect my slavish, cultish adoration for him to upset you, and nothing will please me more.
is that better APB ?
Re: POST GAME: WildCard at Dallas WIN
Posted: 15 Jan 2024 11:01
by lupedafiasco
Yoop wrote: ↑15 Jan 2024 10:55
Raptorman wrote: ↑15 Jan 2024 10:50
I'm going to say this first. Love looked really good in the Cowboys game.
Now for some cold water on your "hot" QB. While Love looked really good the last half of the season, the Packers have a problem. On offense, they only scored an average of 21.7 ppg. That is just below the league average of 21.8 ppg for 2023. No team can continue to win in the league with that kind of offensive production unless they have one hell of a defense. Let me give you some perspective. The Bills defense has averaged 18.6 ppg during Allen's tenure. Allen has averaged 25.9 ppg on offense in games he has played. And they have managed to do what? Win some playoff games.
Now, I'm not saying Love isn't any good. But I'm just telling you to be careful of your love for Love at this point. If that offensive production does not pick up, Love is not going to do it for you. Because I don't see the Packer's defense holding the other team to under 15 ppg in the future. And in order to really win on a regular basis, you need a good 6 to 7-point difference between offense and defense.
compared to Cousins Love is a freaking GOD, nice try
Don’t stop there. Talk to him. Cousins, Mond, Teddy Bridgewater, Case Keenum, Sam Bradford, Christian Ponder, Tavares Jackson.
All bums. They couldn’t even be trusted to wash Jordan Love jock strap.
Re: POST GAME: WildCard at Dallas WIN
Posted: 15 Jan 2024 11:02
by LombardiTime
go pak go wrote: ↑15 Jan 2024 10:53
Raptorman wrote: ↑15 Jan 2024 10:50
I'm going to say this first. Love looked really good in the Cowboys game.
Now for some cold water on your "hot" QB. While Love looked really good the last half of the season, the Packers have a problem.
On offense, they only scored an average of 21.7 ppg. That is just below the league average of 21.8 ppg for 2023. No team can continue to win in the league with that kind of offensive production unless they have one hell of a defense. Let me give you some perspective. The Bills defense has averaged 18.6 ppg during Allen's tenure. Allen has averaged 25.9 ppg on offense in games he has played. And they have managed to do what? Win some playoff games.
Now, I'm not saying Love isn't any good. But I'm just telling you to be careful of your love for Love at this point. If that offensive production does not pick up, Love is not going to do it for you. Because I don't see the Packer's defense holding the other team to under 15 ppg in the future. And in order to really win on a regular basis, you need a good 6 to 7-point difference between offense and defense.
A. You will very likely get to say you're right because more than likely we will likely lose - it's just math.
B. Our offensive production is insane. Points don't tell our story at all. The Packers are so young and as a result leave a TON of points on the field. The primary thing GB needs to do is realize their potential. They can put up 30+ on anyone. They have absolutely dominated 3 weeks in a row vs very, very good defenses.
But yes. More than likely they will hit a slump and you will get to say you were right.
Um, what are the POINTS PER GAME since Aaron Jones returned to the lineup and gave the Pack a legitimate threat in the running game?
Pretty, pretty good.
if Gute can get us a Musgrave, Kraft, Wicks, Reed, Doubs, Watson level RB in the upcoming draft to pair with Aaron Jones I not only am not worried about the scoring going forward, I see no reason to believe it will not increase markedly.
Re: POST GAME: WildCard at Dallas WIN
Posted: 15 Jan 2024 11:09
by Acrobat
Not to throw cold water on yesterday's performance, guys...but FYI, our Offense was really struggling in October, which contributed to our season average of total points. So while yesterday looked like 48 points, it really wasn't because what happened in October.
Signed - Sad fan with empty trophy case
Re: POST GAME: WildCard at Dallas WIN
Posted: 15 Jan 2024 11:35
by Raptorman
Yoop wrote: ↑15 Jan 2024 10:55
Raptorman wrote: ↑15 Jan 2024 10:50
I'm going to say this first. Love looked really good in the Cowboys game.
Now for some cold water on your "hot" QB. While Love looked really good the last half of the season, the Packers have a problem. On offense, they only scored an average of 21.7 ppg. That is just below the league average of 21.8 ppg for 2023. No team can continue to win in the league with that kind of offensive production unless they have one hell of a defense. Let me give you some perspective. The Bills defense has averaged 18.6 ppg during Allen's tenure. Allen has averaged 25.9 ppg on offense in games he has played. And they have managed to do what? Win some playoff games.
Now, I'm not saying Love isn't any good. But I'm just telling you to be careful of your love for Love at this point. If that offensive production does not pick up, Love is not going to do it for you. Because I don't see the Packer's defense holding the other team to under 15 ppg in the future. And in order to really win on a regular basis, you need a good 6 to 7-point difference between offense and defense.
compared to Cousins Love is a freaking GOD, nice try
Cousins has an average of 25.2 ppg in MN. And this isn't about Cousins, although I knew you all would make it about it. Because you have to. You can't look at the reality of the situation. I did notice not one of you said crap about Allen having 25+ ppg. You attacked the Vikings and Cousins and their QBS. And my point stands. If the offensive production is not better, you can' compare him to Viking QBs all you want. They won't be winning unless that average goes up to around 25 ppg. And he looked good. And has looked good.
They can put up 30 points on anyone. Okay, How come they didn't put up 30 on the Giants? The Bears? Tampa?
I didn't say he wasn't good. I said temper your expectations. One playoff win does not make a career. Everyone thought Case Keenum was a QB god after 2017. Who is he starting for? FWIW, Keenum averaged 24 ppg that year.
But yeah, go ahead, give him a $130 million 5-year contract with half guaranteed. After all, he's it. He has the "it" factor. Keenum got a 3-year deal in Denver, how did that work out?
Re: POST GAME: WildCard at Dallas WIN
Posted: 15 Jan 2024 11:35
by BF004
Raptorman wrote: ↑15 Jan 2024 10:50
If that offensive production does not pick up, Love is not going to do it for you.
Have you watched a Packer game the past 10 weeks? Or looked at a box score or a schedule??
Packers scoring would be best modeled by an exponential function this year.
Now not to say we are gunna go beat SF with our young team and if only score 13 and we lose, still wouldn’t even come close to validating what you just said.
Re: POST GAME: WildCard at Dallas WIN
Posted: 15 Jan 2024 11:37
by Drj820
Raptorman wrote: ↑15 Jan 2024 10:50
I'm going to say this first. Love looked really good in the Cowboys game.
Now for some cold water on your "hot" QB. While Love looked really good the last half of the season, the Packers have a problem. On offense, they only scored an average of 21.7 ppg. That is just below the league average of 21.8 ppg for 2023. No team can continue to win in the league with that kind of offensive production unless they have one hell of a defense. Let me give you some perspective. The Bills defense has averaged 18.6 ppg during Allen's tenure. Allen has averaged 25.9 ppg on offense in games he has played. And they have managed to do what? Win some playoff games.
Now, I'm not saying Love isn't any good. But I'm just telling you to be careful of your love for Love at this point. If that offensive production does not pick up, Love is not going to do it for you. Because I don't see the Packer's defense holding the other team to under 15 ppg in the future. And in order to really win on a regular basis, you need a good 6 to 7-point difference between offense and defense.
You’re lame dude
Re: POST GAME: WildCard at Dallas WIN
Posted: 15 Jan 2024 11:38
by Raptorman
LombardiTime wrote: ↑15 Jan 2024 11:02
Um, what are the POINTS PER GAME since Aaron Jones returned to the lineup and gave the Pack a legitimate threat in the running game?
23 ppg with Jones. Still under the 25 ppg average of top QB's. FWIW, Mahomes is average 29 ppg.
Re: POST GAME: WildCard at Dallas WIN
Posted: 15 Jan 2024 11:39
by BF004
Raptorman wrote: ↑15 Jan 2024 11:35
Yoop wrote: ↑15 Jan 2024 10:55
Raptorman wrote: ↑15 Jan 2024 10:50
I'm going to say this first. Love looked really good in the Cowboys game.
Now for some cold water on your "hot" QB. While Love looked really good the last half of the season, the Packers have a problem. On offense, they only scored an average of 21.7 ppg. That is just below the league average of 21.8 ppg for 2023. No team can continue to win in the league with that kind of offensive production unless they have one hell of a defense. Let me give you some perspective. The Bills defense has averaged 18.6 ppg during Allen's tenure. Allen has averaged 25.9 ppg on offense in games he has played. And they have managed to do what? Win some playoff games.
Now, I'm not saying Love isn't any good. But I'm just telling you to be careful of your love for Love at this point. If that offensive production does not pick up, Love is not going to do it for you. Because I don't see the Packer's defense holding the other team to under 15 ppg in the future. And in order to really win on a regular basis, you need a good 6 to 7-point difference between offense and defense.
compared to Cousins Love is a freaking GOD, nice try
Cousins has an average of 25.2 ppg in MN. And this isn't about Cousins, although I knew you all would make it about it. Because you have to. You can't look at the reality of the situation. I did notice not one of you said crap about Allen having 25+ ppg. You attacked the Vikings and Cousins and their QBS. And my point stands. If the offensive production is not better, you can' compare him to Viking QBs all you want. They won't be winning unless that average goes up to around 25 ppg. And he looked good. And has looked good.
They can put up 30 points on anyone. Okay, How come they didn't put up 30 on the Giants? The Bears? Tampa?
I didn't say he wasn't good. I said temper your expectations. One playoff win does not make a career. Everyone thought Case Keenum was a QB god after 2017. Who is he starting for? FWIW, Keenum averaged 24 ppg that year.
But yeah, go ahead, give him a $130 million 5-year contract with half guaranteed. After all, he's it. He has the "it" factor. Keenum got a 3-year deal in Denver, how did that work out?
Wow….
No one thought Keenum was a God, ever, at any time. At least outside some whack Mn fans.
And 130m over 5 years? His contract gunna be $260 million over 5 years.
Re: POST GAME: WildCard at Dallas WIN
Posted: 15 Jan 2024 11:40
by Raptorman
BF004 wrote: ↑15 Jan 2024 11:39
Raptorman wrote: ↑15 Jan 2024 11:35
Yoop wrote: ↑15 Jan 2024 10:55
compared to Cousins Love is a freaking GOD, nice try
Cousins has an average of 25.2 ppg in MN. And this isn't about Cousins, although I knew you all would make it about it. Because you have to. You can't look at the reality of the situation. I did notice not one of you said crap about Allen having 25+ ppg. You attacked the Vikings and Cousins and their QBS. And my point stands. If the offensive production is not better, you can' compare him to Viking QBs all you want. They won't be winning unless that average goes up to around 25 ppg. And he looked good. And has looked good.
They can put up 30 points on anyone. Okay, How come they didn't put up 30 on the Giants? The Bears? Tampa?
I didn't say he wasn't good. I said temper your expectations. One playoff win does not make a career. Everyone thought Case Keenum was a QB god after 2017. Who is he starting for? FWIW, Keenum averaged 24 ppg that year.
But yeah, go ahead, give him a $130 million 5-year contract with half guaranteed. After all, he's it. He has the "it" factor. Keenum got a 3-year deal in Denver, how did that work out?
Wow….
No one thought Keenum was a God, ever, at any time. At least outside some whack Mn fans.
And 130m over 5 years? His contract gunna be $260 million over 5 years.
I hope so. I really do.
Re: POST GAME: WildCard at Dallas WIN
Posted: 15 Jan 2024 11:42
by BF004
I mean, it’s just reality. You think a franchise QB gunna sign for $26 million a year?
Have you looked at a contract in 10 years?
I wasn’t laughing cause I think Love is just going to crazy break the bank because he’s so unbelievably, guaranteed, amazing. I was laughing because you have shown in your last few posts you are zero clue what you are talking about on multiple topics.
26 million would make him the 18th highest paid QB.
Geno Smith and Jimmy Garropolo would be the only 2 QBs in the league on second contract making less.
Helps to live within reality.
Re: POST GAME: WildCard at Dallas WIN
Posted: 15 Jan 2024 11:44
by APB
More food for the soul...
Re: POST GAME: WildCard at Dallas WIN
Posted: 15 Jan 2024 11:53
by MY_TAKE
Raptorman wrote: ↑15 Jan 2024 10:50
I'm going to say this first. Love looked really good in the Cowboys game.
Now for some cold water on your "hot" QB. While Love looked really good the last half of the season, the Packers have a problem. On offense, they only scored an average of 21.7 ppg. That is just below the league average of 21.8 ppg for 2023. No team can continue to win in the league with that kind of offensive production unless they have one hell of a defense. Let me give you some perspective. The Bills defense has averaged 18.6 ppg during Allen's tenure. Allen has averaged 25.9 ppg on offense in games he has played. And they have managed to do what? Win some playoff games.
Now, I'm not saying Love isn't any good. But I'm just telling you to be careful of your love for Love at this point. If that offensive production does not pick up, Love is not going to do it for you. Because I don't see the Packer's defense holding the other team to under 15 ppg in the future. And in order to really win on a regular basis, you need a good 6 to 7-point difference between offense and defense.
More non-sensical silliness from you. Why even use any stats from the first half of the season to make an average? Could care less about what we looked like then. I want to know what we are as a team now. My eye test tells me that the Packers haven't just won the last few games. They have dominated. Thats all I need to know. One could make talk about some similarities to Now and 2010 honestly. The Packers were not very good most of the year but, got hot in the playoffs as the final seed. At some point your stats offer a complete false story. Look at the final game stats yesterday and tell me I am not right. The Packers are just flat out much better right now than most teams. Use some stats to manipulate that point. I am sure if you gave it an honest try you could.