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“I’m kind of over it,” Nixon said at locker cleanout on Monday after the Packers’ playoff loss to the Eagles on Sunday. “I don’t really want to do it no more. There’s going to be talks with the coaching staff and stuff like that, but I think it’s over with for me.”

“I think my Year 1 with (defensive coordinator) Jeff (Hafley) was outstanding,” Nixon said. “I think he revamped the way my career’s shaping, moved me to outside corner and I played outstanding all year. I like Haf a lot. I can’t wait to get back next year and get Year 2 under my belt in his system playing outside corner only. I’m just excited about it.

“I want to be CB1. CB1 is not doing kick returns. That’s just what it is.”

go pak go wrote: ↑

13 Jan 2025 13:33

Yoop wrote: ↑

13 Jan 2025 13:16

go pak go wrote: ↑

13 Jan 2025 12:48

That's too bad. Yeah with that attitude it is time to move on. Clearly underlying frustrations and you can't do that 2 years in a row. $17.5 Million can buy you a lot.

I frankly doubt we get much trade interest but it is time to move on.

he's to good when healthy to just cut, and injured to often to attract a trade for his contract dollars, I think if his injuries are valid then he'll be back, if he was dogging it then we'll probably eat some contract just to get rid of him

what did you think of that attempted tackle by Valentine on Goddard or whatever that TE's name was, you don't get that &%$@ with Alexander.

Alexander is a different player ever since his shoulder injury in 2021? (when he tried to make a tackle on a RB)

I have absolutely seen Jaw make business decisions after he got clobbered on making that tackle. Overall Valentine has always been physical and gotten players knocked down. I don't get overly concerned on one play.

Yoop wrote: ↑

13 Jan 2025 14:36

go pak go wrote: ↑

13 Jan 2025 13:33

Yoop wrote: ↑

13 Jan 2025 13:16

he's to good when healthy to just cut, and injured to often to attract a trade for his contract dollars, I think if his injuries are valid then he'll be back, if he was dogging it then we'll probably eat some contract just to get rid of him

what did you think of that attempted tackle by Valentine on Goddard or whatever that TE's name was, you don't get that &%$@ with Alexander.

Alexander is a different player ever since his shoulder injury in 2021? (when he tried to make a tackle on a RB)

I have absolutely seen Jaw make business decisions after he got clobbered on making that tackle. Overall Valentine has always been physical and gotten players knocked down. I don't get overly concerned on one play.

Valentine might be the worst tackler on this team lol, at least he makes the appearance of arm wrapping lately, but that's all it does is give the appearance of it, 6 games back or so I saw alex go in face up, arms extended wide, and wrap arms on impact to take down a big TE or receiver, can't remember the name, but it was text book tackle.

don't get me wrong I actually like Valentine, and I think he has a future, as a probable 3rd or 4th CB, but not a starter, he just doesn't play with enough physicality for me, jmo.

go pak go wrote: ↑

13 Jan 2025 13:40

Labrev wrote: ↑

13 Jan 2025 13:34

Jaire for Mad Maxx

I'd love that so much.

go pak go wrote: ↑

13 Jan 2025 14:43

Yoop wrote: ↑

13 Jan 2025 14:36

go pak go wrote: ↑

13 Jan 2025 13:33

Alexander is a different player ever since his shoulder injury in 2021? (when he tried to make a tackle on a RB)

I have absolutely seen Jaw make business decisions after he got clobbered on making that tackle. Overall Valentine has always been physical and gotten players knocked down. I don't get overly concerned on one play.

Valentine might be the worst tackler on this team lol, at least he makes the appearance of arm wrapping lately, but that's all it does is give the appearance of it, 6 games back or so I saw alex go in face up, arms extended wide, and wrap arms on impact to take down a big TE or receiver, can't remember the name, but it was text book tackle.

don't get me wrong I actually like Valentine, and I think he has a future, as a probable 3rd or 4th CB, but not a starter, he just doesn't play with enough physicality for me, jmo.

Couple of things:

"Alex" has only played 10 snaps in the last 10 games. So I am highly skeptical of your example. Not saying Alexander won't tackle but it's a tackle. I expect everyone to tackle.

Second your condemnation of Valentine's physicality is pretty strong. Do you have other examples of this or are you seeing one play and retroactively thinking he's always shied away from contact? I would like other examples.

Because frankly in my eyes the dude has always played like his hair is on fire. He has fought for and won/desereved every snap he has been given. He beat out Stokes over time for a reason.

lupedafiasco wrote: ↑

13 Jan 2025 14:51

go pak go wrote: ↑

13 Jan 2025 13:40

Labrev wrote: ↑

13 Jan 2025 13:34

Jaire for Mad Maxx

I'd love that so much.

Actually not a bad idea but Im willing to bet Jaire wouldnt be on board with that trade.

I would offer Jaire, LVN, and maybe a 3rd or 4th and see if that would suffice for the Raiders. They get bac ka good player in Ja, a young cheap edge in LVN with potential and a mid round pick for a player who cant stand being there. I wonder if they would go for that. Then again they probably just want straight up picks for him if they are going to trade for them.

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13 Jan 2025 14:51

go pak go wrote: ↑

13 Jan 2025 14:43

Yoop wrote: ↑

13 Jan 2025 14:36

Valentine might be the worst tackler on this team lol, at least he makes the appearance of arm wrapping lately, but that's all it does is give the appearance of it, 6 games back or so I saw alex go in face up, arms extended wide, and wrap arms on impact to take down a big TE or receiver, can't remember the name, but it was text book tackle.

don't get me wrong I actually like Valentine, and I think he has a future, as a probable 3rd or 4th CB, but not a starter, he just doesn't play with enough physicality for me, jmo.

Couple of things:

"Alex" has only played 10 snaps in the last 10 games. So I am highly skeptical of your example. Not saying Alexander won't tackle but it's a tackle. I expect everyone to tackle.

Second your condemnation of Valentine's physicality is pretty strong. Do you have other examples of this or are you seeing one play and retroactively thinking he's always shied away from contact? I would like other examples.

Because frankly in my eyes the dude has always played like his hair is on fire. He has fought for and won/desereved every snap he has been given. He beat out Stokes over time for a reason.

Alexander and Valentine had the same missed tackle percentage of 11.1% this season. Both were tied for 7th worst on the team.

Last year Alexander was at 15.6%.

Alexander hasn't recorded a tackle since the Jags game.

go pak go wrote: ↑

13 Jan 2025 14:43

Yoop wrote: ↑

13 Jan 2025 14:36

go pak go wrote: ↑

13 Jan 2025 13:33

Alexander is a different player ever since his shoulder injury in 2021? (when he tried to make a tackle on a RB)

I have absolutely seen Jaw make business decisions after he got clobbered on making that tackle. Overall Valentine has always been physical and gotten players knocked down. I don't get overly concerned on one play.

Valentine might be the worst tackler on this team lol, at least he makes the appearance of arm wrapping lately, but that's all it does is give the appearance of it, 6 games back or so I saw alex go in face up, arms extended wide, and wrap arms on impact to take down a big TE or receiver, can't remember the name, but it was text book tackle.

don't get me wrong I actually like Valentine, and I think he has a future, as a probable 3rd or 4th CB, but not a starter, he just doesn't play with enough physicality for me, jmo.

Couple of things:

"Alex" has only played 10 snaps in the last 10 games. So I am highly skeptical of your example. Not saying Alexander won't tackle but it's a tackle. I expect everyone to tackle.

Second your condemnation of Valentine's physicality is pretty strong. Do you have other examples of this or are you seeing one play and retroactively thinking he's always shied away from contact? I would like other examples.

Because frankly in my eyes the dude has always played like his hair is on fire. He has fought for and won/desereved every snap he has been given. He beat out Stokes over time for a reason.

Scott4Pack wrote: ↑

13 Jan 2025 14:47

Is there anybody keeping a digest of worthwhile quotes from the Packers from yesterday and today? For example:

1. MLF saying they need to carry the hurt through the off season and remember it next year.
2. Nixon wanting to be CB1 and drop (no pun intended) the kick return duties.
3. Kraft mentioning that some persons (whose name(s) shall be anon) have had "impact" in the locker room. The insinuation was negative.
4. Anything about Jaire having "nothing positive" to say.
5. and so on...

YoHoChecko wrote: ↑

13 Jan 2025 15:26

I gotta be honest. It would be great if Valentine could tackle everyone every time, but getting bullied by a big physical athletic TE as a fairly diminutive corner isn't going to affect my judgement of someone much. That's just not the right matchup. Are there some guys who do it anyway? Yeah. And that's great. It would be better to have the ideal at every position. But a smaller-framed corner getting big boyed by a huge human is going to happen sometimes. Just can't have aa whole team of them

VikingsSuckDotCom wrote: ↑

13 Jan 2025 15:40

Scott4Pack wrote: ↑

13 Jan 2025 14:47

Is there anybody keeping a digest of worthwhile quotes from the Packers from yesterday and today? For example:

1. MLF saying they need to carry the hurt through the off season and remember it next year.
2. Nixon wanting to be CB1 and drop (no pun intended) the kick return duties.
3. Kraft mentioning that some persons (whose name(s) shall be anon) have had "impact" in the locker room. The insinuation was negative.
4. Anything about Jaire having "nothing positive" to say.
5. and so on...

When LaFleur said it was hard to come back from the fumbled kickoff at the start of the game. And other broken record statements.

YoHoChecko wrote: ↑

13 Jan 2025 15:26

I gotta be honest. It would be great if Valentine could tackle everyone every time, but getting bullied by a big physical athletic TE as a fairly diminutive corner isn't going to affect my judgement of someone much. That's just not the right matchup. Are there some guys who do it anyway? Yeah. And that's great. It would be better to have the ideal at every position. But a smaller-framed corner getting big boyed by a huge human is going to happen sometimes. Just can't have aa whole team of them