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NCF wrote:
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12 should so something like this if he really wants another reciever.
He can't. They literally do not have a nickel to shove forward any further with his contract.
There is nothing they can do with Rodgers's contract at this point. He's kinda locked in for the next few years. Unless of course, he wants to take a pay cut and redo his whole contract.

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Raptorman wrote:
19 Oct 2022 16:09
NCF wrote:
19 Oct 2022 14:55
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19 Oct 2022 14:51
12 should so something like this if he really wants another reciever.
He can't. They literally do not have a nickel to shove forward any further with his contract.
There is nothing they can do with Rodgers's contract at this point. He's kinda locked in for the next few years. Unless of course, he wants to take a pay cut and redo his whole contract.
Ya, paycut should be considered for a guy playing for legacy in what might be his last year. Take a cut and bring in some help. Brady would.
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Gunna have a lot of dead money after Aaron for sure.

Hope they just fix it, just all aging contracts gotta go, rip the band-aid off

Guys like Dean’s, Preston’s, Crosby’s, Bakhtiari’s, Aaron Jones sall probably just gotta go.

Anyone you don’t think will be in the prime around 2025, just gotta cut ties.


Done right, can be a quick fix and be ready to go as long as we get QB right. But as always, really can only go as far as the talent you have on rookie contracts, so just gotta hit those draft classes.
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Done right, can be a quick fix and be ready to go as long as we get QB right. But as always, really can only go as far as the talent you have on rookie contracts, so just gotta hit those draft classes.
And just how well have those rookie contracts gone?
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lupedafiasco wrote:
19 Oct 2022 17:34
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Done right, can be a quick fix and be ready to go as long as we get QB right. But as always, really can only go as far as the talent you have on rookie contracts, so just gotta hit those draft classes.
And just how well have those rookie contracts gone?
Ah, 3x 13 win seasons in a row, well above the league average.
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BF004 wrote:
19 Oct 2022 17:57
lupedafiasco wrote:
19 Oct 2022 17:34
BF004 wrote:
19 Oct 2022 16:21
Done right, can be a quick fix and be ready to go as long as we get QB right. But as always, really can only go as far as the talent you have on rookie contracts, so just gotta hit those draft classes.
And just how well have those rookie contracts gone?
Ah, 3x 13 win seasons in a row, well above the league average.
Eerily similar and blind answer as when I said the 2016 team was a talentless roster and people told me we just were a game away from the Super Bowl.
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The 2016 Packers that made the NFCCG was a talentless roster?
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BF004 wrote:
19 Oct 2022 17:57
lupedafiasco wrote:
19 Oct 2022 17:34
BF004 wrote:
19 Oct 2022 16:21
Done right, can be a quick fix and be ready to go as long as we get QB right. But as always, really can only go as far as the talent you have on rookie contracts, so just gotta hit those draft classes.
And just how well have those rookie contracts gone?
Ah, 3x 13 win seasons in a row, well above the league average.

Is your goal with a back to back mvp to be league average?
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Drj820 wrote:
19 Oct 2022 18:21
BF004 wrote:
19 Oct 2022 17:57
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19 Oct 2022 17:34


And just how well have those rookie contracts gone?
Ah, 3x 13 win seasons in a row, well above the league average.

Is your goal with a back to back mvp to be league average?
I don’t get what your question has to do with my comment.
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League voted in favor of keeping Goodell commissioner with a vote of 31-1. Only Jerry Jones voted against the motion. Gotta give him credit, the man loves to game.
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BF004 wrote:
19 Oct 2022 18:43
Drj820 wrote:
19 Oct 2022 18:21
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Ah, 3x 13 win seasons in a row, well above the league average.

Is your goal with a back to back mvp to be league average?
I don’t get what your question has to do with my comment.
Your original comment pretended that Gutey can hit on draft classes outside of the first couple rounds. Quick rebuilds require hits up and down the draft. If you can’t get that, gotta hit on QB. His first attempt was Love.
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Drj820 wrote:
19 Oct 2022 20:51
BF004 wrote:
19 Oct 2022 18:43
Drj820 wrote:
19 Oct 2022 18:21



Is your goal with a back to back mvp to be league average?
I don’t get what your question has to do with my comment.
Your original comment pretended that Gutey can hit on draft classes outside of the first couple rounds. Quick rebuilds require hits up and down the draft. If you can’t get that, gotta hit on QB. His first attempt was Love.
Not sure my original comment pretended anything.

Gute has been an above average drafter since his hiring. Isn’t really up for debate, pretty concrete, based on snaps, starter snaps, post season accolades and team success.

Perhaps more top heavy than deep, but only one draft class has finished the 4 year cycle under his belt and he’s already banged out 3 all pro talents.
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BF004 wrote:
19 Oct 2022 21:17
Drj820 wrote:
19 Oct 2022 20:51
BF004 wrote:
19 Oct 2022 18:43


I don’t get what your question has to do with my comment.
Your original comment pretended that Gutey can hit on draft classes outside of the first couple rounds. Quick rebuilds require hits up and down the draft. If you can’t get that, gotta hit on QB. His first attempt was Love.
Not sure my original comment pretended anything.

Gute has been an above average drafter since his hiring. Isn’t really up for debate, pretty concrete, based on snaps, starter snaps, post season accolades and team success.

Perhaps more top heavy than deep, but only one draft class has finished the 4 year cycle under his belt and he’s already banged out 3 all pro talents.
Again, you mention average as if that the measuring stick in Green Bay. We can be above average, never win a Super Bowl again, and be about 10th best team in the league at everything. Or we raise our expectations while we have had 30 years of some of the best QB play on the planet. I think comparing our success to league average is why we have one Super Bowl in 20 years.

I don’t think Gutey has drafted well enough for a quick rebuild, which is something only about the top probably 3 or 4 GMs in the league could do. And it starts with hitting at QB.
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Drj820 wrote:
19 Oct 2022 21:32
BF004 wrote:
19 Oct 2022 21:17
Drj820 wrote:
19 Oct 2022 20:51


Your original comment pretended that Gutey can hit on draft classes outside of the first couple rounds. Quick rebuilds require hits up and down the draft. If you can’t get that, gotta hit on QB. His first attempt was Love.
Not sure my original comment pretended anything.

Gute has been an above average drafter since his hiring. Isn’t really up for debate, pretty concrete, based on snaps, starter snaps, post season accolades and team success.

Perhaps more top heavy than deep, but only one draft class has finished the 4 year cycle under his belt and he’s already banged out 3 all pro talents.
Again, you mention average as if that the measuring stick in Green Bay. We can be above average, never win a Super Bowl again, and be about 10th best team in the league at everything. Or we raise our expectations while we have had 30 years of some of the best QB play on the planet. I think comparing our success to league average is why we have one Super Bowl in 20 years.

I don’t think Gutey has drafted well enough for a quick rebuild, which is something only about the top probably 3 or 4 GMs in the league could do. And it starts with hitting at QB.
I’m not sure what you are trying to argue with me.

I made a random comment about a potential rebuild, saying I wanna do it quick and get it done with. Targeting like 2025, and saying if we get some good rookie classes, we could be ready compete around then. Don’t want to drag out an aging roster and be stuck in limbo.

Unrelated, lupe sticks to his schtick and asks how our drafts classes have been. I said above average.

Then even more unrelated you asked if my goal was to be average and accused me of pretending things.

I’m honestly not sure how I can logically partake in this conversation. I feel like there is a pretty big disconnect between things I said, and things you think I said.
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BF004 wrote:
19 Oct 2022 21:48
Drj820 wrote:
19 Oct 2022 21:32
BF004 wrote:
19 Oct 2022 21:17


Not sure my original comment pretended anything.

Gute has been an above average drafter since his hiring. Isn’t really up for debate, pretty concrete, based on snaps, starter snaps, post season accolades and team success.

Perhaps more top heavy than deep, but only one draft class has finished the 4 year cycle under his belt and he’s already banged out 3 all pro talents.
Again, you mention average as if that the measuring stick in Green Bay. We can be above average, never win a Super Bowl again, and be about 10th best team in the league at everything. Or we raise our expectations while we have had 30 years of some of the best QB play on the planet. I think comparing our success to league average is why we have one Super Bowl in 20 years.

I don’t think Gutey has drafted well enough for a quick rebuild, which is something only about the top probably 3 or 4 GMs in the league could do. And it starts with hitting at QB.
I’m not sure what you are trying to argue with me.

I made a random comment about a potential rebuild, saying I wanna do it quick and get it done with. Targeting like 2025, and saying if we get some good rookie classes, we could be ready compete around then. Don’t want to drag out an aging roster and be stuck in limbo.

Unrelated, lupe sticks to his schtick and asks how our drafts classes have been. I said above average.

Then even more unrelated you asked if my goal was to be average and accused me of pretending things.

I’m honestly not sure how I can logically partake in this conversation. I feel like there is a pretty big disconnect between things I said, and things you think I said.
Was not arguing about anything. We are just getting into the deep end of Guteys tenure and in the first year the QB hasn’t been great, the team is really struggling. He then asked how the draft classes were doing and you seemed proud of the 13-3 season and that they were above average. I was just curious if great regular seasons and early playoff exits while having the mvp at qb met your expectations for the team.
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Drj820 wrote:
19 Oct 2022 21:53
BF004 wrote:
19 Oct 2022 21:48
Drj820 wrote:
19 Oct 2022 21:32


Again, you mention average as if that the measuring stick in Green Bay. We can be above average, never win a Super Bowl again, and be about 10th best team in the league at everything. Or we raise our expectations while we have had 30 years of some of the best QB play on the planet. I think comparing our success to league average is why we have one Super Bowl in 20 years.

I don’t think Gutey has drafted well enough for a quick rebuild, which is something only about the top probably 3 or 4 GMs in the league could do. And it starts with hitting at QB.
I’m not sure what you are trying to argue with me.

I made a random comment about a potential rebuild, saying I wanna do it quick and get it done with. Targeting like 2025, and saying if we get some good rookie classes, we could be ready compete around then. Don’t want to drag out an aging roster and be stuck in limbo.

Unrelated, lupe sticks to his schtick and asks how our drafts classes have been. I said above average.

Then even more unrelated you asked if my goal was to be average and accused me of pretending things.

I’m honestly not sure how I can logically partake in this conversation. I feel like there is a pretty big disconnect between things I said, and things you think I said.
Was not arguing about anything. We are just getting into the deep end of Guteys tenure and in the first year the QB hasn’t been great, the team is really struggling. He then asked how the draft classes were doing and you seemed proud of the 13-3 season and that they were above average. I was just curious if great regular seasons and early playoff exits while having the mvp at qb met your expectations for the team.
Seems like really strange weird question to ask. I don't know if you are looking for some weird gotchya moment or something dumb like that, but the question is honestly idiotic.

Have the draft classes been great and to my liking? No
Have a bitched a ton about some of the picks, 2020 in particular? Yes!
Do I have an obsession with it and mention it in every topic? No
Have the draft classes measurably been above average from quantifiable metrics? Without a shout of a doubt.
Has our talent on rookie contracts contributed to 3 straight 13 win seasons? Definitely
Am I happy we didn't win the Super Bowl any of the years? No
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BF004 wrote:
20 Oct 2022 08:33
Drj820 wrote:
19 Oct 2022 21:53
BF004 wrote:
19 Oct 2022 21:48

I’m not sure what you are trying to argue with me.

I made a random comment about a potential rebuild, saying I wanna do it quick and get it done with. Targeting like 2025, and saying if we get some good rookie classes, we could be ready compete around then. Don’t want to drag out an aging roster and be stuck in limbo.

Unrelated, lupe sticks to his schtick and asks how our drafts classes have been. I said above average.

Then even more unrelated you asked if my goal was to be average and accused me of pretending things.

I’m honestly not sure how I can logically partake in this conversation. I feel like there is a pretty big disconnect between things I said, and things you think I said.
Was not arguing about anything. We are just getting into the deep end of Guteys tenure and in the first year the QB hasn’t been great, the team is really struggling. He then asked how the draft classes were doing and you seemed proud of the 13-3 season and that they were above average. I was just curious if great regular seasons and early playoff exits while having the mvp at qb met your expectations for the team.
Seems like really strange weird question to ask. I don't know if you are looking for some weird gotchya moment or something dumb like that, but the question is honestly idiotic.

Have the draft classes been great and to my liking? No
Have a bitched a ton about some of the picks, 2020 in particular? Yes!
Do I have an obsession with it and mention it in every topic? No
Have the draft classes measurably been above average from quantifiable metrics? Without a shout of a doubt.
Has our talent on rookie contracts contributed to 3 straight 13 win seasons? Definitely
Am I happy we didn't win the Super Bowl any of the years? No
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BF004 wrote:
20 Oct 2022 08:33

Have the draft classes been great and to my liking? No
Have a bitched a ton about some of the picks, 2020 in particular? Yes!
Do I have an obsession with it and mention it in every topic? No
Have the draft classes measurably been above average from quantifiable metrics? Without a shout of a doubt.
Has our talent on rookie contracts contributed to 3 straight 13 win seasons? Definitely
Am I happy we didn't win the Super Bowl any of the years? No
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BF004 wrote:
19 Oct 2022 21:17
Drj820 wrote:
19 Oct 2022 20:51
BF004 wrote:
19 Oct 2022 18:43


I don’t get what your question has to do with my comment.
Your original comment pretended that Gutey can hit on draft classes outside of the first couple rounds. Quick rebuilds require hits up and down the draft. If you can’t get that, gotta hit on QB. His first attempt was Love.
Not sure my original comment pretended anything.

Gute has been an above average drafter since his hiring. Isn’t really up for debate, pretty concrete, based on snaps, starter snaps, post season accolades and team success.

Perhaps more top heavy than deep, but only one draft class has finished the 4 year cycle under his belt and he’s already banged out 3 all pro talents.
Of that completed draft class we came away with 1 player. That is not sustainable and we are seeing the effects of that right now. On top of that you had the 2020 class which is starting to look like we got absolutely nothing from.
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lupedafiasco wrote:
20 Oct 2022 15:52
BF004 wrote:
19 Oct 2022 21:17
Drj820 wrote:
19 Oct 2022 20:51


Your original comment pretended that Gutey can hit on draft classes outside of the first couple rounds. Quick rebuilds require hits up and down the draft. If you can’t get that, gotta hit on QB. His first attempt was Love.
Not sure my original comment pretended anything.

Gute has been an above average drafter since his hiring. Isn’t really up for debate, pretty concrete, based on snaps, starter snaps, post season accolades and team success.

Perhaps more top heavy than deep, but only one draft class has finished the 4 year cycle under his belt and he’s already banged out 3 all pro talents.
Of that completed draft class we came away with 1 player. That is not sustainable and we are seeing the effects of that right now. On top of that you had the 2020 class which is starting to look like we got absolutely nothing from.
I would count Dillon as a win, but could understand someone who wouldn't.

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