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There is nothing they can do with Rodgers's contract at this point. He's kinda locked in for the next few years. Unless of course, he wants to take a pay cut and redo his whole contract.
Ya, paycut should be considered for a guy playing for legacy in what might be his last year. Take a cut and bring in some help. Brady would.
Ah, 3x 13 win seasons in a row, well above the league average.
Eerily similar and blind answer as when I said the 2016 team was a talentless roster and people told me we just were a game away from the Super Bowl.BF004 wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022 17:57Ah, 3x 13 win seasons in a row, well above the league average.
BF004 wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022 17:57Ah, 3x 13 win seasons in a row, well above the league average.
I don’t get what your question has to do with my comment.
Your original comment pretended that Gutey can hit on draft classes outside of the first couple rounds. Quick rebuilds require hits up and down the draft. If you can’t get that, gotta hit on QB. His first attempt was Love.
Not sure my original comment pretended anything.
Again, you mention average as if that the measuring stick in Green Bay. We can be above average, never win a Super Bowl again, and be about 10th best team in the league at everything. Or we raise our expectations while we have had 30 years of some of the best QB play on the planet. I think comparing our success to league average is why we have one Super Bowl in 20 years.BF004 wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022 21:17Not sure my original comment pretended anything.
Gute has been an above average drafter since his hiring. Isn’t really up for debate, pretty concrete, based on snaps, starter snaps, post season accolades and team success.
Perhaps more top heavy than deep, but only one draft class has finished the 4 year cycle under his belt and he’s already banged out 3 all pro talents.
I’m not sure what you are trying to argue with me.Drj820 wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022 21:32Again, you mention average as if that the measuring stick in Green Bay. We can be above average, never win a Super Bowl again, and be about 10th best team in the league at everything. Or we raise our expectations while we have had 30 years of some of the best QB play on the planet. I think comparing our success to league average is why we have one Super Bowl in 20 years.BF004 wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022 21:17Not sure my original comment pretended anything.
Gute has been an above average drafter since his hiring. Isn’t really up for debate, pretty concrete, based on snaps, starter snaps, post season accolades and team success.
Perhaps more top heavy than deep, but only one draft class has finished the 4 year cycle under his belt and he’s already banged out 3 all pro talents.
I don’t think Gutey has drafted well enough for a quick rebuild, which is something only about the top probably 3 or 4 GMs in the league could do. And it starts with hitting at QB.
Was not arguing about anything. We are just getting into the deep end of Guteys tenure and in the first year the QB hasn’t been great, the team is really struggling. He then asked how the draft classes were doing and you seemed proud of the 13-3 season and that they were above average. I was just curious if great regular seasons and early playoff exits while having the mvp at qb met your expectations for the team.BF004 wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022 21:48I’m not sure what you are trying to argue with me.Drj820 wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022 21:32Again, you mention average as if that the measuring stick in Green Bay. We can be above average, never win a Super Bowl again, and be about 10th best team in the league at everything. Or we raise our expectations while we have had 30 years of some of the best QB play on the planet. I think comparing our success to league average is why we have one Super Bowl in 20 years.BF004 wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022 21:17
Not sure my original comment pretended anything.
Gute has been an above average drafter since his hiring. Isn’t really up for debate, pretty concrete, based on snaps, starter snaps, post season accolades and team success.
Perhaps more top heavy than deep, but only one draft class has finished the 4 year cycle under his belt and he’s already banged out 3 all pro talents.
I don’t think Gutey has drafted well enough for a quick rebuild, which is something only about the top probably 3 or 4 GMs in the league could do. And it starts with hitting at QB.
I made a random comment about a potential rebuild, saying I wanna do it quick and get it done with. Targeting like 2025, and saying if we get some good rookie classes, we could be ready compete around then. Don’t want to drag out an aging roster and be stuck in limbo.
Unrelated, lupe sticks to his schtick and asks how our drafts classes have been. I said above average.
Then even more unrelated you asked if my goal was to be average and accused me of pretending things.
I’m honestly not sure how I can logically partake in this conversation. I feel like there is a pretty big disconnect between things I said, and things you think I said.
Seems like really strange weird question to ask. I don't know if you are looking for some weird gotchya moment or something dumb like that, but the question is honestly idiotic.Drj820 wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022 21:53Was not arguing about anything. We are just getting into the deep end of Guteys tenure and in the first year the QB hasn’t been great, the team is really struggling. He then asked how the draft classes were doing and you seemed proud of the 13-3 season and that they were above average. I was just curious if great regular seasons and early playoff exits while having the mvp at qb met your expectations for the team.BF004 wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022 21:48I’m not sure what you are trying to argue with me.Drj820 wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022 21:32
Again, you mention average as if that the measuring stick in Green Bay. We can be above average, never win a Super Bowl again, and be about 10th best team in the league at everything. Or we raise our expectations while we have had 30 years of some of the best QB play on the planet. I think comparing our success to league average is why we have one Super Bowl in 20 years.
I don’t think Gutey has drafted well enough for a quick rebuild, which is something only about the top probably 3 or 4 GMs in the league could do. And it starts with hitting at QB.
I made a random comment about a potential rebuild, saying I wanna do it quick and get it done with. Targeting like 2025, and saying if we get some good rookie classes, we could be ready compete around then. Don’t want to drag out an aging roster and be stuck in limbo.
Unrelated, lupe sticks to his schtick and asks how our drafts classes have been. I said above average.
Then even more unrelated you asked if my goal was to be average and accused me of pretending things.
I’m honestly not sure how I can logically partake in this conversation. I feel like there is a pretty big disconnect between things I said, and things you think I said.
good to knowBF004 wrote: ↑20 Oct 2022 08:33Seems like really strange weird question to ask. I don't know if you are looking for some weird gotchya moment or something dumb like that, but the question is honestly idiotic.Drj820 wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022 21:53Was not arguing about anything. We are just getting into the deep end of Guteys tenure and in the first year the QB hasn’t been great, the team is really struggling. He then asked how the draft classes were doing and you seemed proud of the 13-3 season and that they were above average. I was just curious if great regular seasons and early playoff exits while having the mvp at qb met your expectations for the team.BF004 wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022 21:48
I’m not sure what you are trying to argue with me.
I made a random comment about a potential rebuild, saying I wanna do it quick and get it done with. Targeting like 2025, and saying if we get some good rookie classes, we could be ready compete around then. Don’t want to drag out an aging roster and be stuck in limbo.
Unrelated, lupe sticks to his schtick and asks how our drafts classes have been. I said above average.
Then even more unrelated you asked if my goal was to be average and accused me of pretending things.
I’m honestly not sure how I can logically partake in this conversation. I feel like there is a pretty big disconnect between things I said, and things you think I said.
Have the draft classes been great and to my liking? No
Have a bitched a ton about some of the picks, 2020 in particular? Yes!
Do I have an obsession with it and mention it in every topic? No
Have the draft classes measurably been above average from quantifiable metrics? Without a shout of a doubt.
Has our talent on rookie contracts contributed to 3 straight 13 win seasons? Definitely
Am I happy we didn't win the Super Bowl any of the years? No
100% aligned!BF004 wrote: ↑20 Oct 2022 08:33
Have the draft classes been great and to my liking? No
Have a bitched a ton about some of the picks, 2020 in particular? Yes!
Do I have an obsession with it and mention it in every topic? No
Have the draft classes measurably been above average from quantifiable metrics? Without a shout of a doubt.
Has our talent on rookie contracts contributed to 3 straight 13 win seasons? Definitely
Am I happy we didn't win the Super Bowl any of the years? No
Of that completed draft class we came away with 1 player. That is not sustainable and we are seeing the effects of that right now. On top of that you had the 2020 class which is starting to look like we got absolutely nothing from.BF004 wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022 21:17Not sure my original comment pretended anything.
Gute has been an above average drafter since his hiring. Isn’t really up for debate, pretty concrete, based on snaps, starter snaps, post season accolades and team success.
Perhaps more top heavy than deep, but only one draft class has finished the 4 year cycle under his belt and he’s already banged out 3 all pro talents.
I would count Dillon as a win, but could understand someone who wouldn't.lupedafiasco wrote: ↑20 Oct 2022 15:52Of that completed draft class we came away with 1 player. That is not sustainable and we are seeing the effects of that right now. On top of that you had the 2020 class which is starting to look like we got absolutely nothing from.BF004 wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022 21:17Not sure my original comment pretended anything.
Gute has been an above average drafter since his hiring. Isn’t really up for debate, pretty concrete, based on snaps, starter snaps, post season accolades and team success.
Perhaps more top heavy than deep, but only one draft class has finished the 4 year cycle under his belt and he’s already banged out 3 all pro talents.