OTAs

[go pak go]

Lafleur still looks terrified that he might have to trot Love out there to me.

Of course he's terrified, rookie* QBs are a coach's nightmare. As you said in the other thread, MLF doesn't have much of a poker face either.



*Yes, I know he's really a 2nd year player

Jordan Love is a 2nd year QB.

If he ain't ready by now. He never will be!

[Crazylegs Starks]

Lafleur still looks terrified that he might have to trot Love out there to me.

Of course he's terrified, rookie* QBs are a coach's nightmare. As you said in the other thread, MLF doesn't have much of a poker face either.



*Yes, I know he's really a 2nd year player

Jordan Love is a 2nd year QB.

If he ain't ready by now. He never will be!

You didn't read the fine print He's a 2nd year player with a partial 1st training camp and no preseason.

[go pak go]

Of course he's terrified, rookie* QBs are a coach's nightmare. As you said in the other thread, MLF doesn't have much of a poker face either.



*Yes, I know he's really a 2nd year player

Jordan Love is a 2nd year QB.

If he ain't ready by now. He never will be!

You didn't read the fine print He's a 2nd year player with a partial 1st training camp and no preseason.

Oh I did read the fine print.

I just figured if someone is going to be the forum a$$ it may as well be someone who puts the emoji's on there.

No I completely agree with you that Love is not much above a rookie this year. Love doesn't have that much more of an experience as say a Stepaniak does who was injured nearly all year.

[NCF]

Jordan Love is a 2nd year QB.

If he ain't ready by now. He never will be!

You didn't read the fine print He's a 2nd year player with a partial 1st training camp and no preseason.

Oh I did read the fine print.

I just figured if someone is going to be the forum a$$ it may as well be someone who puts the emoji's on there.

No I completely agree with you that Love is not much above a rookie this year. Love doesn't have that much more of an experience as say a Stepaniak does who was injured nearly all year.

I don’t quite agree. Love was able to mentally be a starting QB for an entire season. There is a lot of pressure free value there, IMO.

[TheSkeptic]

I don't agree either, unless you are going to say that the Packers coaching staff are completely incompetent. He has had a full year to improve his technique and get to know his receivers. He has had a full year to watch NFL film and get to know the Vikings, Bears, Lions and several other teams he will face this season.

He is way better than any rookie QB could possibly be.

[Pckfn23]

Rookie +.75? That work?

[Drj820]

I don't agree either, unless you are going to say that the Packers coaching staff are completely incompetent. He has had a full year to improve his technique and get to know his receivers. He has had a full year to watch NFL film and get to know the Vikings, Bears, Lions and several other teams he will face this season.

He is way better than any rookie QB could possibly be.

Exactly. I don’t discredit his first year at all. He hopefully used it to make improvements. A motivated player surely would.

[lupedafiasco]

I don't agree either, unless you are going to say that the Packers coaching staff are completely incompetent. He has had a full year to improve his technique and get to know his receivers. He has had a full year to watch NFL film and get to know the Vikings, Bears, Lions and several other teams he will face this season.

He is way better than any rookie QB could possibly be.

Exactly. I don’t discredit his first year at all. He hopefully used it to make improvements. A motivated player surely would.

Just having the playbook is a big deal and learning the terminology.

[Yoop]

I don't agree either, unless you are going to say that the Packers coaching staff are completely incompetent. He has had a full year to improve his technique and get to know his receivers. He has had a full year to watch NFL film and get to know the Vikings, Bears, Lions and several other teams he will face this season.

He is way better than any rookie QB could possibly be.

I doubt this very much, as far as we know he has never thrown a ball to one of our top 5 receivers, and he got to know them through zoom, and everything you think he knows better then a rookie from this class can be learned in ota's minnis and training camp, if he was better then the QB's taken in this draft teams would have been burning our phones off to trade for him.

[bud fox]

It is so ridiculous that he did not beat out Tim Boyle.

The guy that is going to destroy your organization and he can't beat out Tim Boyle.

[BF004]

It is so ridiculous that he did not beat out Tim Boyle.

The guy that is going to destroy your organization and he can't beat out Tim Boyle.

It is so ridiculous our last QB drafted who destroyed our organization couldn’t beat out Criag Nall to be the backup to Favre.


Just ridiculous people take such stances on things for god knows what reason. It’s like you decide you want to be upset about something. Pick some arbitrary reason without thought, and say it 60 times through the span of about 9 months.

If you don’t think Love is good, that it is fine, but provide something of substance and don’t repeat the same thing ad nauseam when this has been pointed out to you at least a dozen times.


Rodgers didn’t even have to deal with a Covid offseason.

Despite his long-term potential, it was apparent in training camp that Rodgers isn't ready for prime time yet. As a result, Craig Nall will once again serve as Favre's game day backup.

[Yoop]

It is so ridiculous that he did not beat out Tim Boyle.

The guy that is going to destroy your organization and he can't beat out Tim Boyle.

It is so ridiculous our last QB drafted who destroyed our organization couldn’t beat out Criag Nall to be the backup to Favre.


Just ridiculous people take such stances on things for god knows what reason. It’s like you decide you want to be upset about something. Pick some arbitrary reason without thought, and say it 60 times through the span of about 9 months.

If you don’t think Love is good, that it is fine, but provide something of substance and don’t repeat the same thing ad nauseam when this has been pointed out to you at least a dozen times.


Rodgers didn’t even have to deal with a Covid offseason.

Despite his long-term potential, it was apparent in training camp that Rodgers isn't ready for prime time yet. As a result, Craig Nall will once again serve as Favre's game day backup.

two extreme views, Love will never be a good QB, specially not this year, or Love has been great and will be able to handle the pro game soon, both are half truths at best.

[salmar80]

It is so ridiculous that he did not beat out Tim Boyle.

The guy that is going to destroy your organization and he can't beat out Tim Boyle.

It is so ridiculous our last QB drafted who destroyed our organization couldn’t beat out Criag Nall to be the backup to Favre.


Just ridiculous people take such stances on things for god knows what reason. It’s like you decide you want to be upset about something. Pick some arbitrary reason without thought, and say it 60 times through the span of about 9 months.

If you don’t think Love is good, that it is fine, but provide something of substance and don’t repeat the same thing ad nauseam when this has been pointed out to you at least a dozen times.


Rodgers didn’t even have to deal with a Covid offseason.

Despite his long-term potential, it was apparent in training camp that Rodgers isn't ready for prime time yet. As a result, Craig Nall will once again serve as Favre's game day backup.

Also, the game-time backup QB isn't just sitting there waiting for an injury. He can help the starter. Boyle had the playbook mastered, and with experience of the opponents, he as a veteran was better at analyzing plays and giving AR some observations and pointers on those Microsoft Surface(tm) devices. Maybe emotional support as well, and with Boyle, there was no conflict about the roles. With Love getting extremely little prep for the season, there's no way he would have been able to be as helpful.

Boyle is not anywhere near as talented a QB as Love is, but the other things made him a logical choice to be no. 2 QB last season.

[NCF]

My biggest takeaway from the pressers was Stenovich's tone when he took a stance on Ben Braden. Said he looks ready to compete for a starting spot at T or G. That, at least, makes me feel better about him getting those reps

This should have garnered far more discussion.

[Yoop]

It is so ridiculous that he did not beat out Tim Boyle.

The guy that is going to destroy your organization and he can't beat out Tim Boyle.

It is so ridiculous our last QB drafted who destroyed our organization couldn’t beat out Criag Nall to be the backup to Favre.


Just ridiculous people take such stances on things for god knows what reason. It’s like you decide you want to be upset about something. Pick some arbitrary reason without thought, and say it 60 times through the span of about 9 months.

If you don’t think Love is good, that it is fine, but provide something of substance and don’t repeat the same thing ad nauseam when this has been pointed out to you at least a dozen times.


Rodgers didn’t even have to deal with a Covid offseason.

Despite his long-term potential, it was apparent in training camp that Rodgers isn't ready for prime time yet. As a result, Craig Nall will once again serve as Favre's game day backup.

Also, the game-time backup QB isn't just sitting there waiting for an injury. He can help the starter. Boyle had the playbook mastered, and with experience of the opponents, he as a veteran was better at analyzing plays and giving AR some observations and pointers on those Microsoft Surface(tm) devices. Maybe emotional support as well, and with Boyle, there was no conflict about the roles. With Love getting extremely little prep for the season, there's no way he would have been able to be as helpful.

Boyle is not anywhere near as talented a QB as Love is, but the other things made him a logical choice to be no. 2 QB last season.

yep, zero off season work outs, a normal year and it's possible that LOve would have been the backup, or the team new Rodgers was upset with the pick and decided it would be best to use Boyle, just as we used Craig Nall when we took Rodgers, best to let those feelings settle for a year

[Yoop]

My biggest takeaway from the pressers was Stenovich's tone when he took a stance on Ben Braden. Said he looks ready to compete for a starting spot at T or G. That, at least, makes me feel better about him getting those reps

This should have garnered far more discussion.

it would if people had a link to go to to hear the presser, people use to do that stuff in the past, now it seems people read that stuff, comment, and leave it up to the rest of us to dig it up to read the coaches comments, or just left in the dark.

anyway I think a lot of what coaches say now is to pump up the player, give them some confidence, I think thats better then the alternative in this era, Heck I remember Lombardi chewing a lot of tail in his practices, and lesser atta boys, back then it worked, players would never dare to question a coach, specially a guy like Lombardi.

[Drj820]

It is so ridiculous our last QB drafted who destroyed our organization couldn’t beat out Criag Nall to be the backup to Favre.


Just ridiculous people take such stances on things for god knows what reason. It’s like you decide you want to be upset about something. Pick some arbitrary reason without thought, and say it 60 times through the span of about 9 months.

If you don’t think Love is good, that it is fine, but provide something of substance and don’t repeat the same thing ad nauseam when this has been pointed out to you at least a dozen times.


Rodgers didn’t even have to deal with a Covid offseason.

Also, the game-time backup QB isn't just sitting there waiting for an injury. He can help the starter. Boyle had the playbook mastered, and with experience of the opponents, he as a veteran was better at analyzing plays and giving AR some observations and pointers on those Microsoft Surface(tm) devices. Maybe emotional support as well, and with Boyle, there was no conflict about the roles. With Love getting extremely little prep for the season, there's no way he would have been able to be as helpful.

Boyle is not anywhere near as talented a QB as Love is, but the other things made him a logical choice to be no. 2 QB last season.

yep, zero off season work outs, a normal year and it's possible that LOve would have been the backup, or the team new Rodgers was upset with the pick and decided it would be best to use Boyle, just as we used Craig Nall when we took Rodgers, best to let those feelings settle for a year

The Covid offseason is overrated as a hinderance to Loves progress. Herbert, Burrow, Jalen Hurts, and rookie WRs seemed to do just fine. Everybody in the league young or old seemed to get up to speed by mid year. Covid just hurt our chances to see Love, the team saw him and got to work with him plenty.

[NCF]

My biggest takeaway from the pressers was Stenovich's tone when he took a stance on Ben Braden. Said he looks ready to compete for a starting spot at T or G. That, at least, makes me feel better about him getting those reps

This should have garnered far more discussion.

it would if people had a link to go to to hear the presser, people use to do that stuff in the past, now it seems people read that stuff, comment, and leave it up to the rest of us to dig it up to read the coaches comments, or just left in the dark.

anyway I think a lot of what coaches say now is to pump up the player, give them some confidence, I think thats better then the alternative in this era, Heck I remember Lombardi chewing a lot of tail in his practices, and lesser atta boys, back then it worked, players would never dare to question a coach, specially a guy like Lombardi.

Andy did a re-cap of it this morning.

[BF004]

My biggest takeaway from the pressers was Stenovich's tone when he took a stance on Ben Braden. Said he looks ready to compete for a starting spot at T or G. That, at least, makes me feel better about him getting those reps

This should have garnered far more discussion.

Another I took from it is that Myers isn’t just getting #1 center reps, he is the starter. Sounds like completely his job to lose. I wouldn’t have thought it was that set, just with several options on the interior there. But that will definitely bump up Myers in the rank the roster for me.

[BF004]

It is so ridiculous our last QB drafted who destroyed our organization couldn’t beat out Criag Nall to be the backup to Favre.


Just ridiculous people take such stances on things for god knows what reason. It’s like you decide you want to be upset about something. Pick some arbitrary reason without thought, and say it 60 times through the span of about 9 months.

If you don’t think Love is good, that it is fine, but provide something of substance and don’t repeat the same thing ad nauseam when this has been pointed out to you at least a dozen times.


Rodgers didn’t even have to deal with a Covid offseason.

Also, the game-time backup QB isn't just sitting there waiting for an injury. He can help the starter. Boyle had the playbook mastered, and with experience of the opponents, he as a veteran was better at analyzing plays and giving AR some observations and pointers on those Microsoft Surface(tm) devices. Maybe emotional support as well, and with Boyle, there was no conflict about the roles. With Love getting extremely little prep for the season, there's no way he would have been able to be as helpful.

Boyle is not anywhere near as talented a QB as Love is, but the other things made him a logical choice to be no. 2 QB last season.

yep, zero off season work outs, a normal year and it's possible that LOve would have been the backup, or the team new Rodgers was upset with the pick and decided it would be best to use Boyle, just as we used Craig Nall when we took Rodgers, best to let those feelings settle for a year

Even to take this ridiculous topic a step further. Tim Boyle signed a fair veteran QB contract this offseason. Craig Nall never signed a contract after GB.

Rodgers, full normal offseason, couldn’t beat out a 3rd year scrub not good enough to ever sign elsewhere.

Love, COVID restricted offseason, no preseason, couldn’t beat out a 3rd year QB who was good enough to sign a fair backup contract elsewhere.

At least from that alone, you should not be able to conclude Aaron was ahead of Love his rookie year.