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paco wrote:
21 Dec 2020 11:57
Wonder what would happen if we gave it to Jones 321 times? If he kept the average it would be 1733 yards.
No, he would be on IR

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TheSkeptic wrote:
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paco wrote:
21 Dec 2020 11:57
Wonder what would happen if we gave it to Jones 321 times? If he kept the average it would be 1733 yards.
No, he would be on IR
Probably true. I don't think he isn't tough or is necessarily injury-prone, either. Just not made to be that kind of RB. Needs more of those manufactured touches through the air to balance it out.
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Some tweets out there about the passing of Kevin Greene. Was one of my favorites as a kid and I was ecstatic when he became a Packer as a coach. RIP if true.
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Some tweets out there about the passing of Kevin Greene. Was one of my favorites as a kid and I was ecstatic when he became a Packer as a coach. RIP if true.
58... Crazy.
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Steelers are going to go from undefeated to out of the playoffs.
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Crazylegs Starks wrote:
09 Dec 2020 21:06

That is one variation. It's somewhere in When Pride Still Mattered, but I can't find it again. It was based on a bible verse: "Do you not know that all the runners in a stadium compete, but only one receives the prize? So run to win."
Yup. That verse was written by a guy who was imprisoned, stoned, shipwrecked, ridiculed, beaten, arrested, and much more that would've tempted almost anybody to give up. But he had a greater purpose.

Football isn't as great a purpose, but the idea of doing every single thing with excellence is what makes any organization successful. That was Lombardi's mantra. And that is why tanking is not an option for the Green Bay Packers, ever.
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Yeah. All of the painful stuff wasn't, for sure. But the reward of always staying true to a cause that is greater than self is always a winning idea.
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So who isn't making the playoffs.

Record, Team, Remaining Games, 538 % chance of playoffs
11-3 Steelers (IND, @CLE) 100%
10-4 Colts (@PIT, JAX) 92%
10-4 Titans (@GB, @HOU) 98%
10-4 Browns (@NYJ, PIT) 93%
9-5 Dolphins (@LV, @Buf) 31%
9-5 Ravens (NYG, @CIN) 86%

Room for 4 out of the 5 (Pittsburgh is in).

I think 538 is heavily weighted toward Baltimore, currently giving them a better chance to win the SB than Indy, Ten, and Cle, so those percentages should prolly be taken with a grain of salt.


Ravens can not win the division, 528 gives Pittsburgh a 73% chance at the division, Cleveland 27%.

Tennessee will have the tiebreaker over Indy in a tie.

Miami actually controls their own destiny, they beat out Baltimore in the tiebreaker. Buffalo will likely be looking at a meaningless game in week 17 and can not get the #1 bye.


I think 538 is way too high on Baltimore and too low on Miami for their odds. I believe they are running a monte carlo simulation, so judging on Baltimore Super Bowl Odds (a team that doesn't even control their own destiny), their inputs are likely too high on them in my opinion.


I would actually peg Baltimore as the odd duck out.
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BF004 wrote:
22 Dec 2020 17:41
So who isn't making the playoffs.

Record, Team, Remaining Games, 538 % chance of playoffs
11-3 Steelers (IND, @CLE) 100%
10-4 Colts (@PIT, JAX) 92%
10-4 Titans (@GB, @HOU) 98%
10-4 Browns (@NYJ, PIT) 93%
9-5 Dolphins (@LV, @Buf) 31%
9-5 Ravens (NYG, @CIN) 86%

Room for 4 out of the 5 (Pittsburgh is in).

I think 538 is heavily weighted toward Baltimore, currently giving them a better chance to win the SB than Indy, Ten, and Cle, so those percentages should prolly be taken with a grain of salt.


Ravens can not win the division, 528 gives Pittsburgh a 73% chance at the division, Cleveland 27%.

Tennessee will have the tiebreaker over Indy in a tie.

Miami actually controls their own destiny, they beat out Baltimore in the tiebreaker. Buffalo will likely be looking at a meaningless game in week 17 and can not get the #1 bye.


I think 538 is way too high on Baltimore and too low on Miami for their odds. I believe they are running a monte carlo simulation, so judging on Baltimore Super Bowl Odds (a team that doesn't even control their own destiny), their inputs are likely too high on them in my opinion.


I would actually peg Baltimore as the odd duck out.
You know what really sad? At 6-8 the Vikings have not been eliminated from the playoffs. Now they could be this week. However, in a three-way tie with the Bears, and Cardinals, the Vikings would take it. But then they could be in the NFC East. Philly could take it yeat at 6-9-1

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After watching MVS and Lazard have their troubles holding on to the ball sometimes, I am surprised that some of the more entrepreneurial sportswriters with nothing better to do haven't written a scathing "What if" story on Funchess' decision to opt out this season. Imagine an accomplished, consistent and trustable 6'4" veteran receiver out there to take the pressure off of Adams and Tonyan right now.

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If you're going to mention those 2, might want to lump Adams in there too. Just saying.
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RingoCStarrQB wrote:
23 Dec 2020 07:48
After watching MVS and Lazard have their troubles holding on to the ball sometimes, I am surprised that some of the more entrepreneurial sportswriters with nothing better to do haven't written a scathing "What if" story on Funchess' decision to opt out this season. Imagine an accomplished, consistent and trustable 6'4" veteran receiver out there to take the pressure off of Adams and Tonyan right now.
As I recall, one of the knocks on Funchess is he tends to drop a lot of balls. That, and he’s a big possession type WR. He’s not a guy that is gonna generate a lot of wiggle and separation at the LOS. I think the issues we’re seeing now - as minimal as they are - wouldn’t have disappeared with an active and playing Funchess.

Edit: a quick Google search of "Funchess Drops" confirms my memory is correct.
Funchess averaged nearly a drop every eight catchable targets, per Pro Football Focus, and among all 92 receivers to see 150 targets over those four seasons, he ranked fourth-worst in that category.
"Trusted" and "consistent" may not be the best choice of words when describing Funchess. Just sayin'...

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Pckfn23 wrote:
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Nick Chubb and Miles Sanders, the only RBs with a better y/c than Aaron Jones.
And the Eagles run with Sanders less than McCarthy used Jones.
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APB wrote:
23 Dec 2020 11:29
one of the knocks on Funchess is he tends to drop a lot of balls. That, and he’s a big possession type WR. He’s not a guy that is gonna generate a lot of wiggle and separation at the LOS.
good call and the Packers were interested in him in part because he's built like a TE and can block in the run game
He wouldn't gain a lot of separation as you noted - but he's a brute when it comes to battling for the ball and tough to tackle on bubble screens.
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Feel like I’ve been doing way too much rooting for the Vikings recently.
Last season, the Saints’ Super Bowl hopes ended when they lost, as seven-point favorites, at home against the Vikings in the first round of the playoffs. This season, the Saints’ hopes for home-field advantage throughout the playoffs will end if they lose, as seven-point favorites, at home against the Vikings on Christmas Day.
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BF004 wrote:
25 Dec 2020 08:11
Feel like I’ve been doing way too much rooting for the Vikings recently.
Last season, the Saints’ Super Bowl hopes ended when they lost, as seven-point favorites, at home against the Vikings in the first round of the playoffs. This season, the Saints’ hopes for home-field advantage throughout the playoffs will end if they lose, as seven-point favorites, at home against the Vikings on Christmas Day.
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How much did it hurt to say that?

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BSA wrote:
23 Dec 2020 11:54
APB wrote:
23 Dec 2020 11:29
one of the knocks on Funchess is he tends to drop a lot of balls. That, and he’s a big possession type WR. He’s not a guy that is gonna generate a lot of wiggle and separation at the LOS.
good call and the Packers were interested in him in part because he's built like a TE and can block in the run game
He wouldn't gain a lot of separation as you noted - but he's a brute when it comes to battling for the ball and tough to tackle on bubble screens.
He started at TE at Michigan.
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Half Empty wrote:
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How much did it hurt to say that?
Zero. I love it when I root for the Vikes because it means we are playing for something and they aren't.

My biggest wish for the Vikings every year is mediocrity.
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