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go pak go wrote: ↑

29 Oct 2021 14:43

go pak go wrote: ↑

29 Oct 2021 14:41

Yoop wrote: ↑

29 Oct 2021 14:35

you have to admit to your skepticism, all week you thought we'd lose this game.

Yup. I was very skeptical.

Why do you think I am so happy today? Last night is literally once in a decade or so performance.

I am trying to think of the last time we won a road game vs an undefeated or even 1 loss/2 loss team after like week 5.

These things just don't happen.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if it was the first time we won vs an undefeated team on the road in my life. Also wouldn't be shocked if it was one or only a handful of times we beat a 1 loss team on the road in my life.

Okay. Actually trying to think of this now.

I know we beat the Jets in 2010 and they were 5-1 though that had no real seeding impacts as it was vs a non-NFC opponent.

Yoop wrote: ↑

29 Oct 2021 15:08

go pak go wrote: ↑

29 Oct 2021 14:43

go pak go wrote: ↑

29 Oct 2021 14:41

Yup. I was very skeptical.

Why do you think I am so happy today? Last night is literally once in a decade or so performance.

I am trying to think of the last time we won a road game vs an undefeated or even 1 loss/2 loss team after like week 5.

These things just don't happen.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if it was the first time we won vs an undefeated team on the road in my life. Also wouldn't be shocked if it was one or only a handful of times we beat a 1 loss team on the road in my life.

Okay. Actually trying to think of this now.

I know we beat the Jets in 2010 and they were 5-1 though that had no real seeding impacts as it was vs a non-NFC opponent.

see I don't look at wins and losses this way that much, on any given Sunday the worst team in the league can beat the very best, fans think it's easy to adjust a game plan mid game, it's not, often a weaker team just has scouted out and read your tendency's to the point that there simply more prepared, thats not so much a slight on the better team, but just acceptance that nothing can be taken for granted, it's why upsets and blowouts are common, in that respect the win/loss column is of little value, what happened last night was special in that we had to run the ball, and play very sound on defense, and we did, thankfully, because we where down to stems and seeds at receiver.

all week I thought we had a very good chance to win, I new the weakest part of the cards defense was stopping the run, and we have two very good RB's, my worry was hoping the OL would have a big game run blocking, and at times they did a hell of a job, and our defense had been getting better each game, contain Murry and the run and I felt we stood a good chance, basically all this stuff came to pass, and we led for most of the game.

go pak go wrote: ↑

29 Oct 2021 15:11

Yoop wrote: ↑

29 Oct 2021 15:08

go pak go wrote: ↑

29 Oct 2021 14:43

Okay. Actually trying to think of this now.

I know we beat the Jets in 2010 and they were 5-1 though that had no real seeding impacts as it was vs a non-NFC opponent.

see I don't look at wins and losses this way that much, on any given Sunday the worst team in the league can beat the very best, fans think it's easy to adjust a game plan mid game, it's not, often a weaker team just has scouted out and read your tendency's to the point that there simply more prepared, thats not so much a slight on the better team, but just acceptance that nothing can be taken for granted, it's why upsets and blowouts are common, in that respect the win/loss column is of little value, what happened last night was special in that we had to run the ball, and play very sound on defense, and we did, thankfully, because we where down to stems and seeds at receiver.

all week I thought we had a very good chance to win, I new the weakest part of the cards defense was stopping the run, and we have two very good RB's, my worry was hoping the OL would have a big game run blocking, and at times they did a hell of a job, and our defense had been getting better each game, contain Murry and the run and I felt we stood a good chance, basically all this stuff came to pass, and we led for most of the game.

But if I can only think of two instances yoop in my lifetime where this did happen (and both were vs AFC opponents week 6...still relatively early) I think the data would show this doesn't happen very often.

I would be curious of other examples we have won vs a premier opponent on the road. Especially when it is vs a premiere NFC opponent.

The only NFC games I can think of is postseason at Atlanta in 2010 and at Dallas in 2016. But none for regular season.

YoHoChecko wrote: ↑

29 Oct 2021 15:53

Anyone have opinions about who we should root for in the Minny-Dallas game?

If Minnesota loss would give us a 3-game lead in the division at 7-1 to 4-4, but would keep an NFC 1-loss team at one loss.

If Dallas loses, we push the Cowboys down the seeding pecking order with overall record, conference record, and common games record; but Minnesota at 5-3 is actually still a little too close for comfort.

salmar80 wrote: ↑

30 Oct 2021 09:37

Uh oh, da Bears will be without the head coach Matt Nagy (COVID), so they have a chance at winning

YoHoChecko wrote: ↑

29 Oct 2021 16:47

Yeah, I think our team is going to win a lot of games and win the division. I have confidence in that, even.

But for some reason, having a division foe within 2 games when we haven't played them yet doesn't sit well with me.

And since I personally hate the Cowboys and Vikings near evenly, there's no emotional tie breaker.

Yoop wrote: ↑

29 Oct 2021 15:44

go pak go wrote: ↑

29 Oct 2021 15:11

Yoop wrote: ↑

29 Oct 2021 15:08

see I don't look at wins and losses this way that much, on any given Sunday the worst team in the league can beat the very best, fans think it's easy to adjust a game plan mid game, it's not, often a weaker team just has scouted out and read your tendency's to the point that there simply more prepared, thats not so much a slight on the better team, but just acceptance that nothing can be taken for granted, it's why upsets and blowouts are common, in that respect the win/loss column is of little value, what happened last night was special in that we had to run the ball, and play very sound on defense, and we did, thankfully, because we where down to stems and seeds at receiver.

all week I thought we had a very good chance to win, I new the weakest part of the cards defense was stopping the run, and we have two very good RB's, my worry was hoping the OL would have a big game run blocking, and at times they did a hell of a job, and our defense had been getting better each game, contain Murry and the run and I felt we stood a good chance, basically all this stuff came to pass, and we led for most of the game.

But if I can only think of two instances yoop in my lifetime where this did happen (and both were vs AFC opponents week 6...still relatively early) I think the data would show this doesn't happen very often.

I would be curious of other examples we have won vs a premier opponent on the road. Especially when it is vs a premiere NFC opponent.

The only NFC games I can think of is postseason at Atlanta in 2010 and at Dallas in 2016. But none for regular season.

I guess I didn't understand your question, what is the average for teams to beat undefeated teams as we did last night, and why is that something that you seem to think is important?

my point is that we havn't beaten teams with records better then us because usually we are the team with the better record, I mean for 28 plus years anyway actually 2nd best team in that time frame.

Raptorman wrote: ↑

30 Oct 2021 10:55

That says more than anything. Second best team for wins in 28 years and 2 Super Bowls to show for it. At least I know why my team hasn't won one in the last 28 years. The Giants have the same number. The Bucs have the same number. If I had the second-best team in wins over 28 years and only 2 Super Bowl wins I'd be pissed. (I am because my team has none, but that's not the discussion here)

Raptorman wrote: ↑

30 Oct 2021 10:55

Yoop wrote: ↑

29 Oct 2021 15:44

go pak go wrote: ↑

29 Oct 2021 15:11

But if I can only think of two instances yoop in my lifetime where this did happen (and both were vs AFC opponents week 6...still relatively early) I think the data would show this doesn't happen very often.

I would be curious of other examples we have won vs a premier opponent on the road. Especially when it is vs a premiere NFC opponent.

The only NFC games I can think of is postseason at Atlanta in 2010 and at Dallas in 2016. But none for regular season.

I guess I didn't understand your question, what is the average for teams to beat undefeated teams as we did last night, and why is that something that you seem to think is important?

my point is that we havn't beaten teams with records better then us because usually we are the team with the better record, I mean for 28 plus years anyway actually 2nd best team in that time frame.

That says more than anything. Second best team for wins in 28 years and 2 Super Bowls to show for it. At least I know why my team hasn't won one in the last 28 years. The Giants have the same number. The Bucs have the same number. If I had the second-best team in wins over 28 years and only 2 Super Bowl wins I'd be pissed. (I am because my team has none, but that's not the discussion here)

Yoop wrote: ↑

31 Oct 2021 11:05

Raptorman wrote: ↑

30 Oct 2021 10:55

Yoop wrote: ↑

29 Oct 2021 15:44

I guess I didn't understand your question, what is the average for teams to beat undefeated teams as we did last night, and why is that something that you seem to think is important?

my point is that we havn't beaten teams with records better then us because usually we are the team with the better record, I mean for 28 plus years anyway actually 2nd best team in that time frame.

That says more than anything. Second best team for wins in 28 years and 2 Super Bowls to show for it. At least I know why my team hasn't won one in the last 28 years. The Giants have the same number. The Bucs have the same number. If I had the second-best team in wins over 28 years and only 2 Super Bowl wins I'd be pissed. (I am because my team has none, but that's not the discussion here)

please spare all of us your convoluted BS Raptor, you made it to the dance 4 times and never left with the slippers, you folded in all 4 of those games, and a couple of those teams where loaded to the hilt with talent and PB and all pro players.

what the Packers have accomplished the last 3 decades is un heard of in the NFL, even NE has not dominated for 3 decades.

why anyone (including you with your team) wouldn't be proud of these accomplishments simply based on whether ya won SB's or not is rediculous to me, a whole lot of good luck has to happen to win SB's, almost every season GB has been good enough to win this division and went to the play offs.

sure I'am upset that the FO while obviously doing a good was not good enough stocking the team with quality second level support, so when injury took out a starter his backup most of the time was a player with very little NFL experience, that seems to have changed now with Guty, at least Guty is looking for solutions, and realizes that there are limits with D&D if the goal is to win NOW versus constantly developing for the future.

Raptorman wrote: ↑

31 Oct 2021 12:10

Winning doesn't mean sh*t if you don't win the big game."