Packers Huddle

Raptorman wrote: ↑

01 Nov 2021 12:58

Yoop wrote: ↑

01 Nov 2021 12:57

YoHoChecko wrote: ↑

01 Nov 2021 12:31

It is genuinely wild how much conversation there is here of like "Sure, we've been a historically good franchise for 30 years, but we almost built a dynasty on multiple occasions in that time and instead, remained very good; and that seems unfair and bad to me"

Like yeah, when we won in '96, I thought we'd win again in '97 or '98 and the '98 loss to the 49ers still breaks my heart between the Jerry Rice fumble and the launching of T.O. from Terrell Owens the disappointing drop machine to TO the beast who wins games and gets fined.

And yeah, after 2010, definitely thought we could win 2 more in the next 3-5 years, and we didn't.

And yup, 2019, 2020, and 2021 is turning into a window of possibilities not fulfilled.

But we've had 30 years of success! That's not a bad thing ever. It's not worse to get close 5 times and "only" win twice than to not get close or to get close and never win. Being a Packers fan is wonderful and the only thing that even remotely makes it not wonderful are a) Tom Brady, UGH; and b) fans that are too entitled to enjoy the ride.

haha, just ask any detroit fan if they could have our last 30 years or just two SB trophy's? ask any owner of a team with a losing track record which matters most.

The Lions are just a tax write-off for the owners.

Yoop wrote: ↑

01 Nov 2021 13:01

APB wrote: ↑

01 Nov 2021 12:55

YoHoChecko wrote: ↑

01 Nov 2021 12:32

Yeah...

Look, Miller is not prime Miller, but come on, this move moves the needle for sure. It's a big deal. It's a bigger addition than Jaylon or Mercilus. And it's a team that's already had a pretty dominant year with one setback.

Sure it's a big deal. It makes them even more formidable up front. But I don't see it as any kind of clinching move or that this immediately vaults them to no. 1 contender status.

Their defense is currently 21st in yds/gm and 10th in pts/gm. Much of their yards given up come through the air where they are 20th in yds/gm. Miller is gonna help in that regard, no doubt, with his ability to rush the passer.

His addition to that defense doesn't make it an historically good defense though. Five years ago Von Miller? Yeah, maybe so. Today? Not so much. They'll be better but still beatable.

of course it does, this is what I dont understand from you and others that think one player wont or doesn't make a difference, typically only one or two plays decide the outcome of play off games, thats said from coaches all the time, yet you and others just refuse to believe it.

heck Mercilus could provide a sack fumble on the last play of a game just like Von Miller might for the Rams

go pak go wrote: ↑

01 Nov 2021 13:07

It's weird because people take fair weather fans so extremely and with pride.

People divorce their spouse before divorcing their football team.

But honestly. If you are a Lions fan...I wouldn't blame you if you converted to something else (which I know my heart could never do). That would just suck. There would never be any reason to ever get excited.

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

01 Nov 2021 12:26

Miller is 32. While he is a nice addition, it's not a blockbuster. Smith is a better addition to the 2021 Packer than Miller is to the 2021 Rams.

Backthepack4ever wrote: ↑

01 Nov 2021 13:12

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

01 Nov 2021 12:26

Miller is 32. While he is a nice addition, it's not a blockbuster. Smith is a better addition to the 2021 Packer than Miller is to the 2021 Rams.

Huh. Which Smith do you speak of? Jaylon? If so no way hes a better add. Von might not be the same guy as 5 years ago but hes Still good and demands attention. Hes graded pretty solid this year. The rams needed another edge opposite of Floyd and got a good one

Maybe you mean bc Smith was had for pennys

Backthepack4ever wrote: ↑

01 Nov 2021 13:12

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

01 Nov 2021 12:26

Miller is 32. While he is a nice addition, it's not a blockbuster. Smith is a better addition to the 2021 Packer than Miller is to the 2021 Rams.

Huh. Which Smith do you speak of? Jaylon? If so no way hes a better add. Von might not be the same guy as 5 years ago but hes Still good and demands attention. Hes graded pretty solid this year. The rams needed another edge opposite of Floyd and got a good one

Maybe you mean bc Smith was had for pennys

Labrev wrote: ↑

01 Nov 2021 13:20

Backthepack4ever wrote: ↑

01 Nov 2021 13:12

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

01 Nov 2021 12:26

Miller is 32. While he is a nice addition, it's not a blockbuster. Smith is a better addition to the 2021 Packer than Miller is to the 2021 Rams.

Huh. Which Smith do you speak of? Jaylon? If so no way hes a better add. Von might not be the same guy as 5 years ago but hes Still good and demands attention. Hes graded pretty solid this year. The rams needed another edge opposite of Floyd and got a good one

Maybe you mean bc Smith was had for pennys

He means getting Z back off of IR.

BF004 wrote: ↑

01 Nov 2021 13:29

Haven’t dug into this get, what was the compensation and what are Miller’s cap ramifications for Rams and Broncos and what’s his remaining contract look like?

Labrev wrote: ↑

01 Nov 2021 13:20

Backthepack4ever wrote: ↑

01 Nov 2021 13:12

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

01 Nov 2021 12:26

Miller is 32. While he is a nice addition, it's not a blockbuster. Smith is a better addition to the 2021 Packer than Miller is to the 2021 Rams.

Huh. Which Smith do you speak of? Jaylon? If so no way hes a better add. Von might not be the same guy as 5 years ago but hes Still good and demands attention. Hes graded pretty solid this year. The rams needed another edge opposite of Floyd and got a good one

Maybe you mean bc Smith was had for pennys

He means getting Z back off of IR.

Raptorman wrote: ↑

01 Nov 2021 13:18

Backthepack4ever wrote: ↑

01 Nov 2021 13:12

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

01 Nov 2021 12:26

Miller is 32. While he is a nice addition, it's not a blockbuster. Smith is a better addition to the 2021 Packer than Miller is to the 2021 Rams.

Huh. Which Smith do you speak of? Jaylon? If so no way hes a better add. Von might not be the same guy as 5 years ago but hes Still good and demands attention. Hes graded pretty solid this year. The rams needed another edge opposite of Floyd and got a good one

Maybe you mean bc Smith was had for pennys

Rams got Miller for nothing this year. $722,000. The Bronco's are eating $21 million in his cap hit.

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

01 Nov 2021 13:34

I think that's grass is greener talk through and through. There is no reason to think Z Smith will not be ready to contribute when he comes back. If the talk is that Smith is a question mark, the same needs to be said of Miller to the Rams.

Raptorman wrote: ↑

01 Nov 2021 13:55

Food for thought.

The team with the worst overall record in the NFL, Tampa, has a .397 Win percentage has two Super Bowls.

Drj820 wrote: ↑

01 Nov 2021 13:59

Raptorman wrote: ↑

01 Nov 2021 13:55

Food for thought.

The team with the worst overall record in the NFL, Tampa, has a .397 Win percentage has two Super Bowls.

and hardly anyone remembers how much of a dumpster fire they have been because of those 2 rings