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Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

23 Feb 2025 13:26

None of that is true. I truly believe that our pass rush wasn't terrible, but needs to improve, as I said at the outset. I don't demand anything, but I will point out when things are made up and used to prove a point. Ultimately, you asked why I don't usually trust the "evidence" you use. I gave you a blunt, but true answer with examples...

quit accusing me and others of making stuff up, because that is nonsense and insulting, and you are, and have been proving your own self wrong just as with this pass rush stuff, you can think it wasn't bad all you want, it was, the evidence shows that, and my evidence is usually not far off, if at all, same with my estimates, you blow it all out of proportion, your like a hall room monitor policing this forum.

Yoop wrote: ↑

23 Feb 2025 14:08

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

23 Feb 2025 13:26

None of that is true. I truly believe that our pass rush wasn't terrible, but needs to improve, as I said at the outset. I don't demand anything, but I will point out when things are made up and used to prove a point. Ultimately, you asked why I don't usually trust the "evidence" you use. I gave you a blunt, but true answer with examples...

quit accusing me and others of making stuff up, because that is nonsense and insulting, and you are, and have been proving your own self wrong just as with this pass rush stuff, you can think it wasn't bad all you want, it was, the evidence shows that, and my evidence is usually not far off, if at all, same with my estimates, you blow it all out of proportion, your like a hall room monitor policing this forum.

You absolutely do make things up. It happened in this very thread several times. It's why your numbers can't be trusted out of hand.

Here is the real evidence concerning pass rush:
Pressure Percentage - 16th
Sacks - 8th
PRWR - 26th

That doesn't point to terrible to me. It isn't something we can hang our hat on and it is something we need to improve.

The Packers are definitely in need of these three positions the most, whether it be through free agency or the draft. I could see offensive line thrown in there, but I think our starting 5 on the O-Line is pretty solid. Thoughts?

https://lastwordonsports.com/nfl/2025/0 ... positions/

The Packers should try and do everything in their power to take this receiver in the 2025 NFL Draft, even if it means trading up to get him. Is there any other players the Packers should target instead of this guy?

https://lastwordonsports.com/nfl/2025/0 ... -ayomanor/

He definitely gives me Packer vibes, the most of any WR prospect I've seen.

want to watch receivers at combine so far include Golden, Ayomanor and Royals, all should be available somewhere in round 2

I looked at various scouting reports and redshirted sophomore, i.e. only played 2 years. He was born in June, 2003 which will make him 22 this summer.

He seems to be a good prospect at WR#2 to me but he is not going to be WR#1 in his rookie year unless he greatly outperforms where h is likely to be drafted, which is the 2nd round. The Packers should consider moving up in the 2nd round for him, or trading down in the first for him.

He is a natural fit for WR#2. Since Doubs is probably (hopefully) done. I would rather Doubs retire than see the team praying for him to get up like last time, and then having to be guided into the locker room 20 minutes later. Especially because he very possibly won't get up next time.

Yoop wrote: ↑

26 Feb 2025 07:30

want to watch receivers at combine so far include Golden, Ayomanor and Royals, all should be available somewhere in round 2

I don't think Matthew Golden makes it to pick 20.

TheSkeptic wrote: ↑

26 Feb 2025 09:15

I looked at various scouting reports and redshirted sophomore, i.e. only played 2 years. He was born in June, 2003 which will make him 22 this summer.

He seems to be a good prospect at WR#2 to me but he is not going to be WR#1 in his rookie year

lol.

In the history of my life, we have never, ever had a rookie Packer be a #1 WR. Javon Walker, Greg Jennings, Jordy Nelson, Davante Adams...none of them have been close to #1 and yet ended up being incredible wide recievers.

Randy Moss types are special. Being a #1 as a rookie should never be the expectation.

go pak go wrote: ↑

26 Feb 2025 09:36

TheSkeptic wrote: ↑

26 Feb 2025 09:15

I looked at various scouting reports and redshirted sophomore, i.e. only played 2 years. He was born in June, 2003 which will make him 22 this summer.

He seems to be a good prospect at WR#2 to me but he is not going to be WR#1 in his rookie year

lol.

In the history of my life, we have never, ever had a rookie Packer be a #1 WR. Javon Walker, Greg Jennings, Jordy Nelson, Davante Adams...none of them have been close to #1 and yet ended up being incredible wide recievers.

Randy Moss types are special. Being a #1 as a rookie should never be the expectation.

agreed, but typically they had a solid #1 in front of them, Adams, GJ, and Walker dealt with that, and there is no one that we have currently that would automatically beat out a player from this class, or any class, experience isn't a guarantee, if they can get a clean release then #1 is up for grabs, right now our number one receiver IMHO is Robert Kraft, and Getsy will make sure we don't under utilize him again this season

go pak go wrote: ↑

26 Feb 2025 09:28

Yoop wrote: ↑

26 Feb 2025 07:30

want to watch receivers at combine so far include Golden, Ayomanor and Royals, all should be available somewhere in round 2

I don't think Matthew Golden makes it to pick 20.

no? that's were draft buzz has him going, mid second round, although they cite health concerns, but you may be right, I intend to pay attention to receivers at the combine because I think our 2nd rounder will be a receiver unless Guty buys a guy in ufa

Yoop wrote: ↑

26 Feb 2025 10:45

go pak go wrote: ↑

26 Feb 2025 09:28

Yoop wrote: ↑

26 Feb 2025 07:30

want to watch receivers at combine so far include Golden, Ayomanor and Royals, all should be available somewhere in round 2

I don't think Matthew Golden makes it to pick 20.

no? that's were draft buzz has him going, mid second round, although they cite health concerns, but you may be right, I intend to pay attention to receivers at the combine because I think our 2nd rounder will be a receiver unless Guty buys a guy in ufa

Basically the consensus top 3 WRs in the draft is McMillan, Luther/Golden, and Embuka.

There is a possibility one of them falls to us at 23 but generally 3 - 4 WRs are always gone by that pick 20 to 25.

Golden ends up being the 2nd WR off the board IMO.

Yoop wrote: ↑

26 Feb 2025 10:40

go pak go wrote: ↑

26 Feb 2025 09:36

TheSkeptic wrote: ↑

26 Feb 2025 09:15

I looked at various scouting reports and redshirted sophomore, i.e. only played 2 years. He was born in June, 2003 which will make him 22 this summer.

He seems to be a good prospect at WR#2 to me but he is not going to be WR#1 in his rookie year

lol.

In the history of my life, we have never, ever had a rookie Packer be a #1 WR. Javon Walker, Greg Jennings, Jordy Nelson, Davante Adams...none of them have been close to #1 and yet ended up being incredible wide recievers.

Randy Moss types are special. Being a #1 as a rookie should never be the expectation.

agreed, but typically they had a solid #1 in front of them, Adams, GJ, and Walker dealt with that, and there is no one that we have currently that would automatically beat out a player from this class, or any class, experience isn't a guarantee, if they can get a clean release then #1 is up for grabs, right now our number one receiver IMHO is Robert Kraft, and Getsy will make sure we don't under utilize him again this season

Robert Kraft seems to be too old and has other interests (New England Patriots, Mac and cheese, and rub and tug establishments) to be a no1 receiver.

go pak go wrote: ↑

26 Feb 2025 11:04

Yoop wrote: ↑

26 Feb 2025 10:45

go pak go wrote: ↑

26 Feb 2025 09:28

I don't think Matthew Golden makes it to pick 20.

no? that's were draft buzz has him going, mid second round, although they cite health concerns, but you may be right, I intend to pay attention to receivers at the combine because I think our 2nd rounder will be a receiver unless Guty buys a guy in ufa

Basically the consensus top 3 WRs in the draft is McMillan, Luther/Golden, and Embuka.

There is a possibility one of them falls to us at 23 but generally 3 - 4 WRs are always gone by that pick 20 to 25.

two mocksters now have us taking Golden at slot 23,

That article was crap. It literally said nothing about the dude smh


I like the size (6'2" 210) and seems to have some speed. Polished route runner with below average hands (yikes)

Not a 1st round talent imo. Royals is a better prospect

PackersMax12 wrote: ↑

25 Feb 2025 15:38

The Packers should try and do everything in their power to take this receiver in the 2025 NFL Draft, even if it means trading up to get him. Is there any other players the Packers should target instead of this guy?

https://lastwordonsports.com/nfl/2025/0 ... -ayomanor/

That was a waste of a click.

What relevant information was shared? That he’s from Canada? Whoopty do.

If you’re gonna peddle your site with teaser type player bio posts, at least put some effort into it and make the write-ups worth reading.

lake shark wrote: ↑

26 Feb 2025 14:21

Yoop wrote: ↑

26 Feb 2025 10:40

go pak go wrote: ↑

26 Feb 2025 09:36

lol.

In the history of my life, we have never, ever had a rookie Packer be a #1 WR. Javon Walker, Greg Jennings, Jordy Nelson, Davante Adams...none of them have been close to #1 and yet ended up being incredible wide recievers.

Randy Moss types are special. Being a #1 as a rookie should never be the expectation.

agreed, but typically they had a solid #1 in front of them, Adams, GJ, and Walker dealt with that, and there is no one that we have currently that would automatically beat out a player from this class, or any class, experience isn't a guarantee, if they can get a clean release then #1 is up for grabs, right now our number one receiver IMHO is Robert Kraft, and Getsy will make sure we don't under utilize him again this season

Robert Kraft seems to be too old and has other interests (New England Patriots, Mac and cheese, and rub and tug establishments) to be a no1 receiver.

I wish Tucker would get a name change

I am a huge fan of this pick for the Packers, especially if Jaire Alexander suits up for a new team in 2025.

https://lastwordonsports.com/nfl/2025/0 ... ock-draft/

Still can not believe the 2019 Packers were stacked with that much talent from free agency. Obviously, Reggie White is probably the best of the 20th century, but what about the 21st century?

https://lastwordonsports.com/nfl/2025/0 ... -25-years/