General Packer News 2021

[BF004]

Would be really excited to see Love get another shot at home against a less talented defense, but let’s go kick some seahen ass

[Pckfn23]

[BF004]

Can we just give him the entire next stock offering and call it even?

[bud fox]

Can we just give him the entire next stock offering and call it even?

How did he grade against Chiefs?

[bud fox]

Never hear anything from Jenkins as well.

Just goes about his business. For a young player to be the real stable piece on that line for the last few years is impressive.

[Pckfn23]

There's the punishments. Informational only.

[APB]

Just watched this week’s episode of “Tuesday’s With Aaron” on the Pat McAfee Show.



Nothing earth shattering. He addressed the fact he may have been perceived as misleading with some of his prior comments about his vaccination status and whatnot. Took full ownership, don’t recall hearing an apology.

I don’t care, personally. Others probably will. Anyway…

Was proud of the way the team fought this week, particularly Jordan. Was very supportive of him, unlike me. Tough environment, tough opposing coordinator, yada, yada. Watched it as a fan. Did try and guess play calls and checks in real time. Was disappointed with ST play just like the rest of the universe.

He’s been basically heads down with media coverage. He did hear some of the negative rumbles and admitted some was hurtful but he’s not into holding onto hate or any of that. Pat joked that Rodgers will likely never win another MVP based on what some of the voting media put out this week about Rodgers and he just laughed it off and agreed it’ll likely never happen again.

He’s really looking forward to getting back. Has some hurdles to clear health wise but feels good about getting back. All in all he’s feeling good physically and he appeared in a good spot mentally.

Offense will be introduced pre-game this week and you can see there’s some excitement over the reception he’ll get. Rodgers said he is looking forward to it regardless of what’s out there this week media wise.

[APB]

Twitter link

Can we just give Jenkins the entire next stock offering and call it even?

How did he grade against Chiefs?

Top rated offensive player. Matter of fact, PFF rated three O-Lineman within the top 5 on offense.

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/lists ... at-chiefs/

Offense:

1. LT Elgton Jenkins, 84.9
2. LG Jon Runyan, 80.0
3. TE Marcedes Lewis, 76.0
4. RT Billy Turner, 74.9
5. RB A.J. Dillon, 69.2

Defense:

1. CB Kevin King, 79.2
2. S Darnell Savage, 77.1
3. S Adrian Amos, 70.8
4. OLB Rashan Gary, 68.0
5. OLB Jonathan Garvin, 67.3

I know [mention]lupedafiasco[/mention] will be excited…

[Drj820]

Twitter link

Can we just give Jenkins the entire next stock offering and call it even?

How did he grade against Chiefs?

Top rated offensive player. Matter of fact, PFF rated three O-Lineman within the top 5 on offense.

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/lists ... at-chiefs/

Offense:

1. LT Elgton Jenkins, 84.9
2. LG Jon Runyan, 80.0
3. TE Marcedes Lewis, 76.0
4. RT Billy Turner, 74.9
5. RB A.J. Dillon, 69.2

Defense:

1. CB Kevin King, 79.2
2. S Darnell Savage, 77.1
3. S Adrian Amos, 70.8
4. OLB Rashan Gary, 68.0
5. OLB Jonathan Garvin, 67.3

I know @lupedafiasco will be excited…

With OL grading that high (if PFF is to be trusted), this just all the more shows how abysmal of a coaching performance Lafleur and Hackett put together. We had 3 linemen doing exactly what they were asked to do for a majority of plays, yet the protection was awful. This tells me the strategy did not allow them to succeed, and no adjustments were made in game that would give them new assignments that correlated into quality pass protection.

[APB]

…or how wrecked the right side interior protection was. Oh, and Love, of course.

[wallyuwl]

Just watched this week’s episode of “Tuesday’s With Aaron” on the Pat McAfee Show.



Nothing earth shattering. He addressed the fact he may have been perceived as misleading with some of his prior comments about his vaccination status and whatnot. Took full ownership, don’t recall hearing an apology.

I don’t care, personally. Others probably will. Anyway…

Was proud of the way the team fought this week, particularly Jordan. Was very supportive of him, unlike me. Tough environment, tough opposing coordinator, yada, yada. Watched it as a fan. Did try and guess play calls and checks in real time. Was disappointed with ST play just like the rest of the universe.

He’s been basically heads down with media coverage. He did hear some of the negative rumbles and admitted some was hurtful but he’s not into holding onto hate or any of that. Pat joked that Rodgers will likely never win another MVP based on what some of the voting media put out this week about Rodgers and he just laughed it off and agreed it’ll likely never happen again.

He’s really looking forward to getting back. Has some hurdles to clear health wise but feels good about getting back. All in all he’s feeling good physically and he appeared in a good spot mentally.

Offense will be introduced pre-game this week and you can see there’s some excitement over the reception he’ll get. Rodgers said he is looking forward to it regardless of what’s out there this week media wise.

Thx 4 the summary

[BF004]

Twitter link

Can we just give Jenkins the entire next stock offering and call it even?

How did he grade against Chiefs?

Top rated offensive player. Matter of fact, PFF rated three O-Lineman within the top 5 on offense.

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/lists ... at-chiefs/

Offense:

1. LT Elgton Jenkins, 84.9
2. LG Jon Runyan, 80.0
3. TE Marcedes Lewis, 76.0
4. RT Billy Turner, 74.9
5. RB A.J. Dillon, 69.2

Defense:

1. CB Kevin King, 79.2
2. S Darnell Savage, 77.1
3. S Adrian Amos, 70.8
4. OLB Rashan Gary, 68.0
5. OLB Jonathan Garvin, 67.3

I know @lupedafiasco will be excited…

2 OL graded higher than any defender, wut. 3 of the top 5 grades.

To each their own man.

[BSA]

An interesting observation by Paul Noonan, which has also bothered me while watching LaFleur and Rodgers operate during a game.

Why are the Packers consistently snapping the ball with little to no seconds left on the play clock and how that affects the long passing game. Also the time outs used to prevent a delay of game penalty.

Here is his article;
https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2021 ... n-research

meh.
Many fans and writers gripe about this "late-snapping" offense - but both AR and MLF have explained their reasoning behind it on several occasions. Start with possessing the ball - by using all of the play clock on most of the downs- the Packers are keeping their defense off the field longer than a quick-snapping team. That's a very good thing. Even a 3 and out for GB takes longer than most other teams. That maximizes possession- and since these Packers have so few turnovers... possession means no scoring for the opponents.
( They learned this lesson during quick- strike 2011)

The main reason Rodgers likes slow play is that he has the chance to fully survey the defense AND get them to declare any blitzes/stunts etc. So he is getting his offense the best possible look at what's coming. Conversely - we can see how bad the OL looks without those added advantages
( see KC game). Defenses go to great lengths to disguise and hide what they are doing- Rodgers is unraveling those obfuscations by squeezing the clock. IF they don't start blitzing & rotating right away- they are neutered and can't get where they are going in time to make a play. So the longer he waits, the harder it is for the defense to deploy their schemes

Another small benefit is that it forces the DL to line up and sit ready on their on their haunches for an extended period of time - because they don't know when the snap is happening for certain. In the article, he suggests the Packers are losing an advantage by waiting until zero- because then the defense knows exactly when the ball will be snapped But typically the DL are head down and not looking at the play clock and it really doesn't matter much for the Safeties or Corners. Tipping your hand to the EDGE players could be an issue - but I haven't seen EDGE guys jumping the play clock ( they jump up & down and point at the zero). The sack stats don't suggest its a problem.

Tangentially, it also means fewer plays and less wear & tear on the offense. But that's just an added bonus

The Packers don't slow- play all the time, but its certainly their main mantra. If you look at pace - of -play stats... last year GB was both the "slowest" team in the NFL and the number 1 offense. So what exactly are you fixing ?

There are some additional delay penalties - not ideal- but sometimes that is on the HC/OC for not getting a play and proper personnel on the field in time. Its accidental, not purposeful. And they work on that all the time - including shortening up the play calls and using a wrist band to expedite

Now we've all seen how quick- snaps can help on a QB sneak or to catch them with 12 defenders on the field- perhaps they could do more of that - but I don't have any context or data to support that notion.

tl/dr

The Packers feel that slow-play offense offers GB more competitive advantages than disadvantages

[BF004]

Didn’t produce year 1, sux

[Drj820]

Per bob demovsky, The packers have been fined 300k and Rodgers and Lazard both have been fined close to 15k for the Covid Violations. Review of matter is now complete. Slap on wrist.

Murphy accepts the punishment.

[bud fox]

Didn’t produce year 1, sux

Gary is growing in his role.

He always seemed more quiet but saw him on one drive head slapping some dline before a play. Can tell he is getting confidence from his good play and hopefully will just help him more.

[Foosball]

An interesting observation by Paul Noonan, which has also bothered me while watching LaFleur and Rodgers operate during a game.

Why are the Packers consistently snapping the ball with little to no seconds left on the play clock and how that affects the long passing game. Also the time outs used to prevent a delay of game penalty.

Here is his article;
https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2021 ... n-research

meh.
Many fans and writers gripe about this "late-snapping" offense - but both AR and MLF have explained their reasoning behind it on several occasions. Start with possessing the ball - by using all of the play clock on most of the downs- the Packers are keeping their defense off the field longer than a quick-snapping team. That's a very good thing. Even a 3 and out for GB takes longer than most other teams. That maximizes possession- and since these Packers have so few turnovers... possession means no scoring for the opponents.
( They learned this lesson during quick- strike 2011)

The main reason Rodgers likes slow play is that he has the chance to fully survey the defense AND get them to declare any blitzes/stunts etc. So he is getting his offense the best possible look at what's coming. Conversely - we can see how bad the OL looks without those added advantages
( see KC game). Defenses go to great lengths to disguise and hide what they are doing- Rodgers is unraveling those obfuscations by squeezing the clock. IF they don't start blitzing & rotating right away- they are neutered and can't get where they are going in time to make a play. So the longer he waits, the harder it is for the defense to deploy their schemes

Another small benefit is that it forces the DL to line up and sit ready on their on their haunches for an extended period of time - because they don't know when the snap is happening for certain. In the article, he suggests the Packers are losing an advantage by waiting until zero- because then the defense knows exactly when the ball will be snapped But typically the DL are head down and not looking at the play clock and it really doesn't matter much for the Safeties or Corners. Tipping your hand to the EDGE players could be an issue - but I haven't seen EDGE guys jumping the play clock ( they jump up & down and point at the zero). The sack stats don't suggest its a problem.

Tangentially, it also means fewer plays and less wear & tear on the offense. But that's just an added bonus

The Packers don't slow- play all the time, but its certainly their main mantra. If you look at pace - of -play stats... last year GB was both the "slowest" team in the NFL and the number 1 offense. So what exactly are you fixing ?

There are some additional delay penalties - not ideal- but sometimes that is on the HC/OC for not getting a play and proper personnel on the field in time. Its accidental, not purposeful. And they work on that all the time - including shortening up the play calls and using a wrist band to expedite

Now we've all seen how quick- snaps can help on a QB sneak or to catch them with 12 defenders on the field- perhaps they could do more of that - but I don't have any context or data to support that notion.

tl/dr

The Packers feel that slow-play offense offers GB more competitive advantages than disadvantages

It’s because LaFleur can’t get the play in quick enough.

[bud fox]

Would be really excited to see Love get another shot at home against a less talented defense, but let’s go kick some seahen ass

I thought chiefs were quite bad this year? Surprised they would rank better than Seahawks.

Haven't kept up with Seahawks

[BF004]

Would be really excited to see Love get another shot at home against a less talented defense, but let’s go kick some seahen ass

I thought chiefs were quite bad this year? Surprised they would rank better than Seahawks.

Haven't kept up with Seahawks

Statistically KC hasn’t been good this year, but they have some dogs there.

Seattle is just a bunch of guys other than Wagner

[Yoop]

How did he grade against Chiefs?

Top rated offensive player. Matter of fact, PFF rated three O-Lineman within the top 5 on offense.

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/lists ... at-chiefs/

Offense:

1. LT Elgton Jenkins, 84.9
2. LG Jon Runyan, 80.0
3. TE Marcedes Lewis, 76.0
4. RT Billy Turner, 74.9
5. RB A.J. Dillon, 69.2

Defense:

1. CB Kevin King, 79.2
2. S Darnell Savage, 77.1
3. S Adrian Amos, 70.8
4. OLB Rashan Gary, 68.0
5. OLB Jonathan Garvin, 67.3

I know @lupedafiasco will be excited…

2 OL graded higher than any defender, wut. 3 of the top 5 grades.

To each their own man.

I would have voted for the OL in heres Johnny if Newman and Patrick hadn't done so poorly, Jenkins is going to want LT type money whether he plays there or not.

nice to see Gary doing well, finally.