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Justin Fields led the league in Sack %, Sacks, and Fumbles.
He was 2nd worst in INT % and 2nd-last among preferred starters in completion % despite having the second-fewest drops in the league per PFR.
Let's say they trade down to 10, and pick up 2 or 3 premium picks for future. They get better immediately around Fields, who already has some experience and flashed upside, and then are able to load up in future drafts. I feel like every team that does this right benefits huge. Because of that, I expect Bryce Young to be a Bear.
I'd flip it. You have to give your quarterback a legit chance. There will be a team who will want a QB. Flip it for a 2nd and a next year 2nd (sometimes teams pay way, way more).
is this like a promo to get me to watch Draft Day with Keven Costner
I don't think he is as bad as people here want to make him out to be. Still young, still learning, and Has crap for support on offense. Crap on defense. Before the Bears traded away their two top Defensive players, they where averages 18.8 points per game on defense. After they traded them away, 33.1 ppg on defense. It's impossible for any QB to have a winning record when your defense gives up that much. 7 td's 6 int his first 8 games, 10 TD's 5 int his second 8 games. He put 29 points up against Dallas, in Dallas. I think if they put some good players around him, and give him an o-line that it half-decent he might be a force to be reckoned with.
you keep spouting this same old narrative, ranking QB's based on defensive ability is abso freaking lutely not how QB's are judged, ranked or graded, nor are they graded based on a win and lost record, not by anyone interested in acquiring there services or there existing teams grades anyway.Raptorman wrote: ↑10 Jan 2023 23:57I don't think he is as bad as people here want to make him out to be. Still young, still learning, and Has crap for support on offense. Crap on defense. Before the Bears traded away their two top Defensive players, they where averages 18.8 points per game on defense. After they traded them away, 33.1 ppg on defense. It's impossible for any QB to have a winning record when your defense gives up that much. 7 td's 6 int his first 8 games, 10 TD's 5 int his second 8 games. He put 29 points up against Dallas, in Dallas. I think if they put some good players around him, and give him an o-line that it half-decent he might be a force to be reckoned with.
Fields is one of the best athletes in the league. If he had an OC like Greg Roman he could be hugely effective. He’s not that good as a pocket passer, but I don’t think he’s had any good development in that regard either. I do predict the bears fail to ever give him the support he needs, and I predict he gets injured more and more as he gets older and runs more and more to bail them out…but he has the potential to be a winning qb if he had the right coach who knew how to use him. I bet he would be great in an offense like Lamar’s. Dudes a heck of an athlete and has a cannon for an arm.Raptorman wrote: ↑10 Jan 2023 23:57I don't think he is as bad as people here want to make him out to be. Still young, still learning, and Has crap for support on offense. Crap on defense. Before the Bears traded away their two top Defensive players, they where averages 18.8 points per game on defense. After they traded them away, 33.1 ppg on defense. It's impossible for any QB to have a winning record when your defense gives up that much. 7 td's 6 int his first 8 games, 10 TD's 5 int his second 8 games. He put 29 points up against Dallas, in Dallas. I think if they put some good players around him, and give him an o-line that it half-decent he might be a force to be reckoned with.
Funny, When Cousins was signed by the Vikings, that is the only thing he was judged on. His record. For the most part, it still is.Yoop wrote: ↑11 Jan 2023 08:59you keep spouting this same old narrative, ranking QB's based on defensive ability is abso freaking lutely not how QB's are judged, ranked or graded, nor are they graded based on a win and lost record, not by anyone interested in acquiring there services or there existing teams grades anyway.
Cousins is judged by what time kickoff isRaptorman wrote: ↑11 Jan 2023 18:57Funny, When Cousins was signed by the Vikings, that is the only thing he was judged on. His record. For the most part, it still is.Yoop wrote: ↑11 Jan 2023 08:59you keep spouting this same old narrative, ranking QB's based on defensive ability is abso freaking lutely not how QB's are judged, ranked or graded, nor are they graded based on a win and lost record, not by anyone interested in acquiring there services or there existing teams grades anyway.
haha, probably why this is the first time ya been to the playoffs in a decade,Raptorman wrote: ↑11 Jan 2023 18:57Funny, When Cousins was signed by the Vikings, that is the only thing he was judged on. His record. For the most part, it still is.Yoop wrote: ↑11 Jan 2023 08:59you keep spouting this same old narrative, ranking QB's based on defensive ability is abso freaking lutely not how QB's are judged, ranked or graded, nor are they graded based on a win and lost record, not by anyone interested in acquiring there services or there existing teams grades anyway.
obviously the wins make a positive statement, but actual skills is what brings out the ink pen, GM spend a whole lot more time watching game reels then looking at the team he plays for win/lost record, simply because there are so many variables that go into game results that have no bearing on the play of the QB, right?
Which is based on his win/loss record during those times. Thank you for agreeing with me.Drj820 wrote: ↑11 Jan 2023 18:59Cousins is judged by what time kickoff isRaptorman wrote: ↑11 Jan 2023 18:57Funny, When Cousins was signed by the Vikings, that is the only thing he was judged on. His record. For the most part, it still is.Yoop wrote: ↑11 Jan 2023 08:59you keep spouting this same old narrative, ranking QB's based on defensive ability is abso freaking lutely not how QB's are judged, ranked or graded, nor are they graded based on a win and lost record, not by anyone interested in acquiring there services or there existing teams grades anyway.
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Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD Rate Int DPPG
315 523 60.2 3687 21 84.7 13 16.8
360 561 64.2 4251 28 93.4 14 18.9
347 540 64.3 4093 27 93.9 13 24.3
385 581 66.3 4577 32 102.8 8 18.5
386 536 72.0 4334 23 103.9 8 20.4
325 481 67.6 3547 22 98.3 7 15.7
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