Re: Rodgers wants out
Posted: 28 Jun 2021 13:57
This thread is too long. We need to start another one where people can state their thoughts as they stand today.
I actually think silence (and maybe some little leaks via friends) is the only smart strategy for AR.
Yes it is too long but we only have 4 weeks before we know who the starting QB will be. If AR is not there on Family night, he won't be there on opening day. Plus he could outright say he is not reporting tomorrow. These would be natural times to restart
Tyler Dunne is a hack. I know someone he dated, don't trust the guy. Just trying to make a name for himself.Yoop wrote: ↑28 Jun 2021 14:48Heres a google link to the bleacher report article by Tyler Dunn, where he points out that Rodgers was fed up with McCarthy's offense since 016 and audibling out of half the called plays because if he hadn't defenses would know exactly what was coming, could say if not for Rodgers McCarthy would have been looking for a job even sooner., and should have been, that was some of the worst play calling in that Seattle game I ever saw.
I didn't realize that Bleacher report blocks there articles from being linked, and didn't recheck that it didn't when I made that post 2 pages back, sorry.
That’s always the sense I’ve gotten from Dunne as well. He’s smart. He knows for whatever reason the Packers fan base doesn’t love Rodgers the same way other teams fan bases love their franchise QBs. Negativity sells. Might as well rule them up to get more clicks.Acrobat wrote: ↑28 Jun 2021 15:25Tyler Dunne is a hack. I know someone he dated, don't trust the guy. Just trying to make a name for himself.Yoop wrote: ↑28 Jun 2021 14:48Heres a google link to the bleacher report article by Tyler Dunn, where he points out that Rodgers was fed up with McCarthy's offense since 016 and audibling out of half the called plays because if he hadn't defenses would know exactly what was coming, could say if not for Rodgers McCarthy would have been looking for a job even sooner., and should have been, that was some of the worst play calling in that Seattle game I ever saw.
I didn't realize that Bleacher report blocks there articles from being linked, and didn't recheck that it didn't when I made that post 2 pages back, sorry.
Huh. That's pretty weird. I thought he was one of the VERY few beat reporters over the years we've had that actually does homework and research and brings something extra to the game. Given that the fans now have direct access to the press conferences and such, most articles are just filling in words around quotes we've already heard. Dunne actually seemed to develop sources and reach out to involved parties directly and add more to the story than what we already knew. He also had an "in" on the Rodgers text messages making fun of Gutey (had we forgotten that part yet?)Acrobat wrote: ↑28 Jun 2021 15:25Tyler Dunne is a hack. I know someone he dated, don't trust the guy. Just trying to make a name for himself.Yoop wrote: ↑28 Jun 2021 14:48Heres a google link to the bleacher report article by Tyler Dunn, where he points out that Rodgers was fed up with McCarthy's offense since 016 and audibling out of half the called plays because if he hadn't defenses would know exactly what was coming, could say if not for Rodgers McCarthy would have been looking for a job even sooner., and should have been, that was some of the worst play calling in that Seattle game I ever saw.
I didn't realize that Bleacher report blocks there articles from being linked, and didn't recheck that it didn't when I made that post 2 pages back, sorry.
My dad got voted the “most hated man in Annapolis” because he didn’t cater to the local teams as a sports writer. Also won state Sportswriter of the year several times. Also got a bouquet of flowers from Bellichick and the Orioles at his funeral.bud fox wrote: ↑28 Jun 2021 19:41Nearly all beat writers will always align there commentary with the team. They don't want to lose sources and access. Much safer to have a long career writing this way.
National reporters can be different but they also may have a bias e.g. reporters tied to a superstar athlete - see this with Lebron/Klutch.
Sounds like he had a great career. That said, I feel being. A beat writer covering major markets and multipleYoHoChecko wrote: ↑28 Jun 2021 19:50My dad got voted the “most hated man in Annapolis” because he didn’t cater to the local teams as a sports writer. Also won state Sportswriter of the year several times. Also got a bouquet of flowers from Bellichick and the Orioles at his funeral.bud fox wrote: ↑28 Jun 2021 19:41Nearly all beat writers will always align there commentary with the team. They don't want to lose sources and access. Much safer to have a long career writing this way.
National reporters can be different but they also may have a bias e.g. reporters tied to a superstar athlete - see this with Lebron/Klutch.
You don’t have to cowtow to the local teams to keep good sources. If reporters think that’s true, that’s self inflicted pressure, not real pressure.
Interesting - somewhat explains why your posts are top quality.YoHoChecko wrote: ↑28 Jun 2021 19:50My dad got voted the “most hated man in Annapolis” because he didn’t cater to the local teams as a sports writer. Also won state Sportswriter of the year several times. Also got a bouquet of flowers from Bellichick and the Orioles at his funeral.bud fox wrote: ↑28 Jun 2021 19:41Nearly all beat writers will always align there commentary with the team. They don't want to lose sources and access. Much safer to have a long career writing this way.
National reporters can be different but they also may have a bias e.g. reporters tied to a superstar athlete - see this with Lebron/Klutch.
You don’t have to cowtow to the local teams to keep good sources. If reporters think that’s true, that’s self inflicted pressure, not real pressure.
Classic play. If the information out there doesn't fit narrative, blame the sources.
National Media definitely but local beat writers no.
Are you meaning like Stephen A Smith, Skip Bayless and Pat McFee?bud fox wrote: ↑28 Jun 2021 23:04National Media definitely but local beat writers no.
The ones that act as if they are best friends with "Gutey" at press conferences. They are tied to the packers because they will still be writing about the packers when Rodgers is gone.
National media who aren't as biased, outside of catchy headlines, favor Rodgers throughout this.
our beat writers often get after the FO and don't report covering for the FO, a quick google search of the beat writers will show some work for Journal sentinel from Millwaukee and also cover the Bucks and Braves, heres a articles of then openly complaining about rules they gor upset about last year.Drj820 wrote: ↑28 Jun 2021 20:25Sounds like he had a great career. That said, I feel being. A beat writer covering major markets and multipleYoHoChecko wrote: ↑28 Jun 2021 19:50My dad got voted the “most hated man in Annapolis” because he didn’t cater to the local teams as a sports writer. Also won state Sportswriter of the year several times. Also got a bouquet of flowers from Bellichick and the Orioles at his funeral.bud fox wrote: ↑28 Jun 2021 19:41Nearly all beat writers will always align there commentary with the team. They don't want to lose sources and access. Much safer to have a long career writing this way.
National reporters can be different but they also may have a bias e.g. reporters tied to a superstar athlete - see this with Lebron/Klutch.
You don’t have to cowtow to the local teams to keep good sources. If reporters think that’s true, that’s self inflicted pressure, not real pressure.
Sports is night and day different than what goes on in GB. I think our talent level of beat writers is far lower, and our guys are far more scared to lose access or ruffle feathers.there is no where else to turn in the town if they burn even one bridge.
Thanks for the update. You may think our beat writers do a good job, but compared to others around the country...i do not. I only need about 2 fingers to count the amount of useful information someone like Demovsky has ever given me. The national guys like rapsheet and Schefter are the guys that break all of our news, yet they live thousands of miles away. The two guys I lean on for info are Nagler (not a beat writer) and Matt Schneiderman from the Athletic. The rest are borderline useless in my quest to acquire new and interesting information.Yoop wrote: ↑29 Jun 2021 07:22our beat writers often get after the FO and don't report covering for the FO, a quick google search of the beat writers will show some work for Journal sentinel from Millwaukee and also cover the Bucks and Braves, heres a articles of then openly complaining about rules they gor upset about last year.Drj820 wrote: ↑28 Jun 2021 20:25Sounds like he had a great career. That said, I feel being. A beat writer covering major markets and multipleYoHoChecko wrote: ↑28 Jun 2021 19:50
My dad got voted the “most hated man in Annapolis” because he didn’t cater to the local teams as a sports writer. Also won state Sportswriter of the year several times. Also got a bouquet of flowers from Bellichick and the Orioles at his funeral.
You don’t have to cowtow to the local teams to keep good sources. If reporters think that’s true, that’s self inflicted pressure, not real pressure.
Sports is night and day different than what goes on in GB. I think our talent level of beat writers is far lower, and our guys are far more scared to lose access or ruffle feathers.there is no where else to turn in the town if they burn even one bridge.
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/new ... ku6lmk1bbk
heres a story about Bob McGinn, who I think was/is one of the best sports reporters in the country, and never shirked asking the tough questions, so much so the Packer homers started to hate him cause he wouldn't let the FO off the hook, and as this little bit shows Bob was innovative in his craft.
McGinn has tracked some stats long before they were in vogue. Many longtime NFL writers believe he was the first person to record targets. But he also archives pressures, quarterback knockdowns and hurries, dropped passes, sacks allowed and what he calls bad runs (gains of one yard or less in non-goal-line or short-yardage situations). He can—and did on Wednesday—find who allowed a sack.
https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/01/20/green ... bob-mcginn
just because a writter reports on a team from a smaller city doesn't mean thats all they report on, Millwaukee is 2.5 hours away and they have a couple of major league teams that need reporters too.