Packers Huddle

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 09:36

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/0 ... n-offense/

Between this and the obsession with taking deep shots, I am starting to think there is little buy in...

Wait a minute...

Rodgers is arguing all the motion and pre-snap movement messes with the tempo he prefers to operate at? Isn't Rodgers the same guy who notoriously let's the play clock run to zero before calling for the snap?? I mean, outside of 2 min drills (or down by 3 scores in 4th qtr) how often do they run up tempo? Have they even once outside of those situations?

I get it. Rodgers doesn't like all the motion in LeFluers offense. Then say so. This tempo thing is just a garbage excuse. Running motion is not slowing this offense, like at all. It's just not what Rodgers likes to do.

APB wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 10:39

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 09:36

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/0 ... n-offense/

Between this and the obsession with taking deep shots, I am starting to think there is little buy in...

Wait a minute...

Rodgers is arguing all the motion and pre-snap movement messes with the tempo he prefers to operate at? Isn't Rodgers the same guy who notoriously let's the play clock run to zero before calling for the snap?? I mean, outside of 2 min drills (or down by 3 scores in 4th qtr) how often do they run up tempo? Have they even once outside of those situations?

I get it. Rodgers doesn't like all the motion in LeFluers offense. Then say so. This tempo thing is just a garbage excuse. Running motion is not slowing this offense, like at all. It's just not what Rodgers likes to do.

Uptempo isn't about leaving time on the clock, thats called hurry up, your getting your UP'S all confused, uptempo is about the QB releasing the ball fast, course we don't have to worry about that as long as this OL allows a pass rusher to hit Rodgers in a 2 count

I agree though, Rodgers needs to shut up and run the called plays, Motion and deceptive plays are Rodgers best friend, my only wish is we would do more of it.

Yoop wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 10:52

APB wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 10:39

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 09:36

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/0 ... n-offense/

Between this and the obsession with taking deep shots, I am starting to think there is little buy in...

Wait a minute...

Rodgers is arguing all the motion and pre-snap movement messes with the tempo he prefers to operate at? Isn't Rodgers the same guy who notoriously let's the play clock run to zero before calling for the snap?? I mean, outside of 2 min drills (or down by 3 scores in 4th qtr) how often do they run up tempo? Have they even once outside of those situations?

I get it. Rodgers doesn't like all the motion in LeFluers offense. Then say so. This tempo thing is just a garbage excuse. Running motion is not slowing this offense, like at all. It's just not what Rodgers likes to do.

Uptempo isn't about leaving time on the clock, thats called hurry up, your getting your UP'S all confused, uptempo is about the QB releasing the ball fast, course we don't have to worry about that as long as this OL allows a pass rusher to hit Rodgers in a 2 count

I agree though, Rodgers needs to shut up and run the called plays, Motion and deceptive plays are Rodgers best friend, my only wish is we would do more of it.

Only in the [mention]Yoop[/mention] book of definitions is uptempo what you described. Uptempo and hurry up are synonymous.

NCF wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 11:16

Yoop wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 10:52

APB wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 10:39

Wait a minute...

Rodgers is arguing all the motion and pre-snap movement messes with the tempo he prefers to operate at? Isn't Rodgers the same guy who notoriously let's the play clock run to zero before calling for the snap?? I mean, outside of 2 min drills (or down by 3 scores in 4th qtr) how often do they run up tempo? Have they even once outside of those situations?

I get it. Rodgers doesn't like all the motion in LeFluers offense. Then say so. This tempo thing is just a garbage excuse. Running motion is not slowing this offense, like at all. It's just not what Rodgers likes to do.

Uptempo isn't about leaving time on the clock, thats called hurry up, your getting your UP'S all confused, uptempo is about the QB releasing the ball fast, course we don't have to worry about that as long as this OL allows a pass rusher to hit Rodgers in a 2 count

I agree though, Rodgers needs to shut up and run the called plays, Motion and deceptive plays are Rodgers best friend, my only wish is we would do more of it.

Only in the @Yoop book of definitions is uptempo what you described. Uptempo and hurry up are synonymous.

really? No I disagree, Hurry up is what ya do in a two minute offense, Uptempo play calling is done during the full 60 minutes, so they are not actually the same thing.

Oh yoop.

Great. Haven't we made him look like a super star before?

go pak go wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 11:24

Oh yoop.

get real, Uptempo is a scheme adjustment, and refers to Rodgers getting the ball out quick, and happens usually for a series or two.

Hurry up is a clock management issues where you don't have a lot of time and need to score points, obviously they sound like the same thing, but they are not, and everyone here knows this, watches how it plays out, there not the same

Yoop wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 10:52

APB wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 10:39

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 09:36

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/0 ... n-offense/

Between this and the obsession with taking deep shots, I am starting to think there is little buy in...

Wait a minute...

Rodgers is arguing all the motion and pre-snap movement messes with the tempo he prefers to operate at? Isn't Rodgers the same guy who notoriously let's the play clock run to zero before calling for the snap?? I mean, outside of 2 min drills (or down by 3 scores in 4th qtr) how often do they run up tempo? Have they even once outside of those situations?

I get it. Rodgers doesn't like all the motion in LeFluers offense. Then say so. This tempo thing is just a garbage excuse. Running motion is not slowing this offense, like at all. It's just not what Rodgers likes to do.

Uptempo isn't about leaving time on the clock, thats called hurry up, your getting your UP'S all confused, uptempo is about the QB releasing the ball fast, course we don't have to worry about that as long as this OL allows a pass rusher to hit Rodgers in a 2 count

I agree though, Rodgers needs to shut up and run the called plays, Motion and deceptive plays are Rodgers best friend, my only wish is we would do more of it.

Woah.



For sake of discussion, let's assume you're right.

What negative effect could pre-snap motion possibly have in slowing this "uptempo" offense you just defined? That is, after all, Rodgers' chief complaint.

Yoop wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 12:07

go pak go wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 11:24

Oh yoop.

get real, Uptempo is a scheme adjustment, and refers to Rodgers getting the ball out quick, and happens usually for a series or two.

Hurry up is a clock management issues where you don't have a lot of time and need to score points, obviously they sound like the same thing, but they are not, and everyone here knows this, watches how it plays out, there not the same

This is one of those moments where if someone corrects you, before digging your feet in the dirt and arguing endlessly, maybe just ask google first.

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 08:28

Here is where favorable looks need to take a bit of a backseat to imposing your will.

Can’t say that loud enough 23!
:-)

I know I'm preaching to the choir here but...

Acrobat wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 12:34

Yoop wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 12:07

go pak go wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 11:24

Oh yoop.

get real, Uptempo is a scheme adjustment, and refers to Rodgers getting the ball out quick, and happens usually for a series or two.

Hurry up is a clock management issues where you don't have a lot of time and need to score points, obviously they sound like the same thing, but they are not, and everyone here knows this, watches how it plays out, there not the same

This is one of those moments where if someone corrects you, before digging your feet in the dirt and arguing endlessly, maybe just ask google first.

I don't need to google this &%$@ to know what I'am talking about, besides is goggle going to define a football term?

I wish I had yoop's confidence.

I swear yoop could be in a 150 member band and his horn is way off tune but in yoop's mind...his horn is perfect and everyone else is off but him.

APB wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 12:33

Yoop wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 10:52

APB wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 10:39

Wait a minute...

Rodgers is arguing all the motion and pre-snap movement messes with the tempo he prefers to operate at? Isn't Rodgers the same guy who notoriously let's the play clock run to zero before calling for the snap?? I mean, outside of 2 min drills (or down by 3 scores in 4th qtr) how often do they run up tempo? Have they even once outside of those situations?

I get it. Rodgers doesn't like all the motion in LeFluers offense. Then say so. This tempo thing is just a garbage excuse. Running motion is not slowing this offense, like at all. It's just not what Rodgers likes to do.

Uptempo isn't about leaving time on the clock, thats called hurry up, your getting your UP'S all confused, uptempo is about the QB releasing the ball fast, course we don't have to worry about that as long as this OL allows a pass rusher to hit Rodgers in a 2 count

I agree though, Rodgers needs to shut up and run the called plays, Motion and deceptive plays are Rodgers best friend, my only wish is we would do more of it.

Woah.



For sake of discussion, let's assume you're right.

What negative effect could pre-snap motion possibly have in slowing this "uptempo" offense you just defined? That is, after all, Rodgers' chief complaint.

your asking me to read Rodgers mind, again, thought you didn't like to have me do that.

my opinion

Motion, Jets sweeps are called plays that take options out of Rodgers control, unless he completely audibles out of that play, so he doesn't get to use PO/ RPO and clock wind down to read and lock in a defense just prior to the snap.

Packman earlier commented on time Rodgers takes in the huddle, when we have youngsters like Watson, Doubs, heck even vets like Jones running the jets, and reverses everyone needs to be on the same page, so that explanation time Rodgers has to use to make sure they are, cost time Rodgers would rather have pre snap to see if he has a better options to audible to.

as Rodgers said, he likes this stuff, but it is complicated, takes more time between plays, at least that was the impression I had when he said it.

Yoop wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 13:26

Acrobat wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 12:34

Yoop wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 12:07

get real, Uptempo is a scheme adjustment, and refers to Rodgers getting the ball out quick, and happens usually for a series or two.

Hurry up is a clock management issues where you don't have a lot of time and need to score points, obviously they sound like the same thing, but they are not, and everyone here knows this, watches how it plays out, there not the same

This is one of those moments where if someone corrects you, before digging your feet in the dirt and arguing endlessly, maybe just ask google first.

I don't need to google this &%$@ to know what I'am talking about, besides is goggle going to define a football term?

FFS Yoop. Just read.

https://www.nfl.com/news/up-tempo-offe ... 0000377868

Simply put, it describes the pace of play. Practitioners of the no-huddle/hurry-up offense want to operate at a fast pace, leading to more plays, first downs and scoring opportunities while also wearing down opponents, limiting defensive substitutions and slowing the implementation of different defensive tactics throughout the game.

APB wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 13:47

Yoop wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 13:26

Acrobat wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 12:34

This is one of those moments where if someone corrects you, before digging your feet in the dirt and arguing endlessly, maybe just ask google first.

I don't need to google this &%$@ to know what I'am talking about, besides is goggle going to define a football term?

FFS Yoop. Just read.

https://www.nfl.com/news/up-tempo-offe ... 0000377868

Simply put, it describes the pace of play. Practitioners of the no-huddle/hurry-up offense want to operate at a fast pace, leading to more plays, first downs and scoring opportunities while also wearing down opponents, limiting defensive substitutions and slowing the implementation of different defensive tactics throughout the game.

again, as it pertains to us, the term up tempo has been used to describe the time the QB takes to release the ball, and we use hurry up when short on time, or to stop substituting, so these are two different uses of that term.

again I don't need to read something that I already can distinguish the difference with.

we are having issues with the quick uptempo passing because those catch points are cluttered with defenders, so Lafluer and Rodgers are attempting to complete deep passes to open those catch points up

another communication breakdown, you all know what I'am describing, and your refusal to admit it is frustrating

??

Are you saying the quick-hitter, short passing game is what the Packers refer to as playing "uptempo"?

BF004 wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 10:15

Looks like the annual ‘Packers interested in trading for WR’ season has commenced.

Yep.

I've seen talk suggesting Chase Claypool from Pittsburgh or Tee Higgins from Cincy could be possible trade targets.

The argument for Higgins makes sense in theory. They just paid Tyler Boyd and will be paying J'Marr Chase soon thus leaving Higgins as the odd man out come extension time.

I'd absolutely love it but I don't see a snowballs chance in hell the Bengals trade away a big piece of their offense whilst actively competing for a SB title.

again, as it pertains to us, the term up tempo has been used to describe the time the QB takes to release the ball,

No one defines uptempo that way and Aaron Rodgers was certainly not defining it that way. Motion would have little to nothing to do with the what is being described above. Instead, Rodgers was talking about how it takes time to set, motion and possibly get reset and how he sees that as affecting an uptempo offense. Nothing to do with QB time to release the ball.

Here is exactly what Rodgers said:

“When you have so much motion, it’s hard to get tempo going. You always have to make sure you’re set, and you have a motion, or a double motion, or a jet off of it,” Rodgers said.

Huh, to active roster, Tipa to IR.

Does that make 12 OL?