Packers Huddle

APB wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 14:27

BF004 wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 10:15

Looks like the annual ‘Packers interested in trading for WR’ season has commenced.

Yep.

I've seen talk suggesting Chase Claypool from Pittsburgh or Tee Higgins from Cincy could be possible trade targets.

The argument for Higgins makes sense in theory. They just paid Tyler Boyd and will be paying J'Marr Chase soon thus leaving Higgins as the odd man out come extension time.

I'd absolutely love it but I don't see a snowballs chance in hell the Bengals trade away a big piece of their offense whilst actively competing for a SB title.

BF004 wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 16:56

APB wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 14:27

BF004 wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 10:15

Looks like the annual ‘Packers interested in trading for WR’ season has commenced.

Yep.

I've seen talk suggesting Chase Claypool from Pittsburgh or Tee Higgins from Cincy could be possible trade targets.

The argument for Higgins makes sense in theory. They just paid Tyler Boyd and will be paying J'Marr Chase soon thus leaving Higgins as the odd man out come extension time.

I'd absolutely love it but I don't see a snowballs chance in hell the Bengals trade away a big piece of their offense whilst actively competing for a SB title.

DJ Moore would be interesting.

He got the huge contract extension, yet after looking at it, he’d be super cheap this year, but then his salary would blow up to like 19 and then 20+ million for the remainder.

Might cost like a 2nd to trade for him, maybe more. But then we can just trade him next offseason. Hopefully after solid production with Aaron. Could possibly get our pick back, or more, less. But we likely couldn’t manage his future salary.

Trudge wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 16:59

BF004 wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 16:56

APB wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 14:27

Yep.

I've seen talk suggesting Chase Claypool from Pittsburgh or Tee Higgins from Cincy could be possible trade targets.

The argument for Higgins makes sense in theory. They just paid Tyler Boyd and will be paying J'Marr Chase soon thus leaving Higgins as the odd man out come extension time.

I'd absolutely love it but I don't see a snowballs chance in hell the Bengals trade away a big piece of their offense whilst actively competing for a SB title.

DJ Moore would be interesting.

He got the huge contract extension, yet after looking at it, he’d be super cheap this year, but then his salary would blow up to like 19 and then 20+ million for the remainder.

Might cost like a 2nd to trade for him, maybe more. But then we can just trade him next offseason. Hopefully after solid production with Aaron. Could possibly get our pick back, or more, less. But we likely couldn’t manage his future salary.

Adams would have cost us 30m~ and we would have him signed. I think we'd be fine.

DJ Moore has me interested.

APB wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 14:18

??

Are you saying the quick-hitter, short passing game is what the Packers refer to as playing "uptempo"?

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 15:03

again, as it pertains to us, the term up tempo has been used to describe the time the QB takes to release the ball,

No one defines uptempo that way and Aaron Rodgers was certainly not defining it that way. Motion would have little to nothing to do with the what is being described above. Instead, Rodgers was talking about how it takes time to set, motion and possibly get reset and how he sees that as affecting an uptempo offense. Nothing to do with QB time to release the ball.

Here is exactly what Rodgers said:

“When you have so much motion, it’s hard to get tempo going. You always have to make sure you’re set, and you have a motion, or a double motion, or a jet off of it,” Rodgers said.

go pak go wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 13:40

I wish I had yoop's confidence.

I swear yoop could be in a 150 member band and his horn is way off tune but in yoop's mind...his horn is perfect and everyone else is off but him.

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 18:13

No

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 15:03

again, as it pertains to us, the term up tempo has been used to describe the time the QB takes to release the ball,

No one defines uptempo that way and Aaron Rodgers was certainly not defining it that way. Motion would have little to nothing to do with the what is being described above. Instead, Rodgers was talking about how it takes time to set, motion and possibly get reset and how he sees that as affecting an uptempo offense. Nothing to do with QB time to release the ball.

Here is exactly what Rodgers said:

“When you have so much motion, it’s hard to get tempo going. You always have to make sure you’re set, and you have a motion, or a double motion, or a jet off of it,” Rodgers said.

Yoop wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 18:22

go pak go wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 13:40

I wish I had yoop's confidence.

I swear yoop could be in a 150 member band and his horn is way off tune but in yoop's mind...his horn is perfect and everyone else is off but him.

I don't bend when I believe I'am right about something, often though, sometimes I wish I would,that way I would have to listen to you slam me.

this is again a issue of my lack of ability to express what I'am trying to say

Yoop wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 18:41

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 18:13

No

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 15:03

No one defines uptempo that way and Aaron Rodgers was certainly not defining it that way. Motion would have little to nothing to do with the what is being described above. Instead, Rodgers was talking about how it takes time to set, motion and possibly get reset and how he sees that as affecting an uptempo offense. Nothing to do with QB time to release the ball.

Here is exactly what Rodgers said:

hey, if you don't think all that activity in the backfield doesn't affect the tempo, make everything a bit more complicated I guess you think you know more then Rodgers, and obviously more then me, why are you stuck teaching JV football.

uptempo is a design to lesson the time from Snap, to release, to ball arriving at the catch point, thats just how simple this is, if it's not called upping the tempo of a offense, then what is? when teams have 25 sec. to the half from the 40 they are referred to as being in a hurry up situation, any scheme may be used, could be a long developing pass to the EZ, or a uptempo get the ball out fast short pass to the side lines.

saying uptempo offense is the same as a hurry up situation, are two different things.

and I'am done arguing this &%$@, wtf.

So, what is "tempo"?
Simply put, it describes the pace of play. Practitioners of the no-huddle/hurry-up offense want to operate at a fast pace, leading to more plays, first downs and scoring opportunities while also wearing down opponents, limiting defensive substitutions and slowing the implementation of different defensive tactics throughout the game. When a no-huddle/hurry-up attack operates at optimal speed, the defense is at the offense's mercy, and defensive coordinators are rendered helpless on the sideline.

As such, coaches like Urban Meyer, Hugh Freeze, and Gus Malzahn (who wrote a book about it) have fully adopted the idea of going uptempo between plays, looking to snap the ball quickly from one play to the next.

go pak go wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 19:26

Yoop wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 18:22

go pak go wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 13:40

I wish I had yoop's confidence.

I swear yoop could be in a 150 member band and his horn is way off tune but in yoop's mind...his horn is perfect and everyone else is off but him.

I don't bend when I believe I'am right about something, often though, sometimes I wish I would,that way I would have to listen to you slam me.

this is again a issue of my lack of ability to express what I'am trying to say

I slam you because you deserve to be slammed. You say stuff that is so clearly wrong and people call you out on it. Instead of saying "oh hey thanks I didn't know that"....you dig in for 4 thread pages.

The term uptempo offense really became popularized in the early 2010's when it was a form of offense trying to get a play snapped within 25 or fewer seconds. The thought was to maximize the amount of plays an offense could run in a game.

Mike McCarthy tried it but the guy who really took it to a new level was Chip Kelly in Philly where they'd target running like 90 plays in a game.

What you are describing is simply a quick pass concept.

Yoop wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 19:58

I suppose I should goggle everything I say, I described these two things as I've come to know them, I should have known that nerds like you and others here would nit pick it apart, because that has become the norm here, unless a comment doesn't agree with what some ink peddler says, people rip it apart

uptempo is changing the speed of the offense, thats it, find any fancy write up, it doesn't matter why uptempo started, we all remember what Mccarthy said about getting more plays, we all remember the clock he used to speed Rodgers up.

you guys just refuse to acknowledge that speeding up the tempo of the offense isn't restricted to lack of clock and the need to quickly score points, and after 4 pages of trying to explain the difference between the two, I give up.

Drj820 wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 19:56

go pak go wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 19:26

Yoop wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 18:22

I don't bend when I believe I'am right about something, often though, sometimes I wish I would,that way I would have to listen to you slam me.

this is again a issue of my lack of ability to express what I'am trying to say

I slam you because you deserve to be slammed. You say stuff that is so clearly wrong and people call you out on it. Instead of saying "oh hey thanks I didn't know that"....you dig in for 4 thread pages.

The term uptempo offense really became popularized in the early 2010's when it was a form of offense trying to get a play snapped within 25 or fewer seconds. The thought was to maximize the amount of plays an offense could run in a game.

Mike McCarthy tried it but the guy who really took it to a new level was Chip Kelly in Philly where they'd target running like 90 plays in a game.

What you are describing is simply a quick pass concept.

Yoopies an old man that likes to hit the bong. Totally legendary. Let’s respect the elders.

Yoop wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 19:58

I suppose I should goggle everything I say, I described these two things as I've come to know them, I should have known that nerds like you and others here would nit pick it apart, because that has become the norm here, unless a comment doesn't agree with what some ink peddler says, people rip it apart

uptempo is changing the speed of the offense, thats it, find any fancy write up, it doesn't matter why uptempo started, we all remember what Mccarthy said about getting more plays, we all remember the clock he used to speed Rodgers up.

you guys just refuse to acknowledge that speeding up the tempo of the offense isn't restricted to lack of clock and the need to quickly score points, and after 4 pages of trying to explain the difference between the two, I give up.

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 20:08

Yoop wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 19:58

I suppose I should goggle everything I say, I described these two things as I've come to know them, I should have known that nerds like you and others here would nit pick it apart, because that has become the norm here, unless a comment doesn't agree with what some ink peddler says, people rip it apart

uptempo is changing the speed of the offense, thats it, find any fancy write up, it doesn't matter why uptempo started, we all remember what Mccarthy said about getting more plays, we all remember the clock he used to speed Rodgers up.

you guys just refuse to acknowledge that speeding up the tempo of the offense isn't restricted to lack of clock and the need to quickly score points, and after 4 pages of trying to explain the difference between the two, I give up.

You give up because you're wrong. Rodgers's own quote proved that before you even made your first post on the subject.

Uptempo is not a scheme.

Yoop wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 20:15

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 20:08

Yoop wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 19:58

I suppose I should goggle everything I say, I described these two things as I've come to know them, I should have known that nerds like you and others here would nit pick it apart, because that has become the norm here, unless a comment doesn't agree with what some ink peddler says, people rip it apart

uptempo is changing the speed of the offense, thats it, find any fancy write up, it doesn't matter why uptempo started, we all remember what Mccarthy said about getting more plays, we all remember the clock he used to speed Rodgers up.

you guys just refuse to acknowledge that speeding up the tempo of the offense isn't restricted to lack of clock and the need to quickly score points, and after 4 pages of trying to explain the difference between the two, I give up.

You give up because you're wrong. Rodgers's own quote proved that before you even made your first post on the subject.

Uptempo is not a scheme.

bull &%$@, when plays are designed to lesson the time the QB holds the ball then wtf is it? it's raising and quickening the tempo of the play, you can't just say it's a pass play since we also option to run during that same hurry up, you and other here are rediculous, of course those are schemed up plays

I dont give two &%$@ if you don't think adding motion changes tempo, as long as Rodgers said it,I'll take his word for it cause it makes sense that it would.

Yoop wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 20:08

Drj820 wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 19:56

go pak go wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2022 19:26

I slam you because you deserve to be slammed. You say stuff that is so clearly wrong and people call you out on it. Instead of saying "oh hey thanks I didn't know that"....you dig in for 4 thread pages.

The term uptempo offense really became popularized in the early 2010's when it was a form of offense trying to get a play snapped within 25 or fewer seconds. The thought was to maximize the amount of plays an offense could run in a game.

Mike McCarthy tried it but the guy who really took it to a new level was Chip Kelly in Philly where they'd target running like 90 plays in a game.

What you are describing is simply a quick pass concept.

Yoopies an old man that likes to hit the bong. Totally legendary. Let’s respect the elders.

that doesn't make me a idiot, uptempo is a scheme, Hurry up is a situation, one is completely different then the other

which was my comment 4 pages back to APB. then the tongue twisting began as it always does, it's useless for me to try and converse with people who's only intent is to twist the point I try and make. so $%@# it.