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Re: Sammy Watkins- He Gone!

Posted: 19 Dec 2022 16:23
by Labrev
I was a skeptic of his, but I am not gonna bash the move too much. We needed to add some veteran experience and Watkins was a guy who made sense at some level, and it's not like there was anything much better out there at the price. We got what we paid for: a stopgap.

And now there's really not much use/need for him: Lazard blocks as well while being an appreciably better receiving target; Watson, Cobb, and Doubs are all superior receiving options, and frankly I would even rather get Toure on the field at this point because at least there is some upside there.

Re: Sammy Watkins- He Gone!

Posted: 19 Dec 2022 17:47
by Foosball
Another player that the Packers have picked where they had previously worked together. In Watkins case it was LaFleur when he was with the Rams in 2017.

Not saying that’s necessarily a bad thing because at least you know the person you’re getting. Just saying familiarity shouldn’t trump talent.

Re: Sammy Watkins- He Gone!

Posted: 19 Dec 2022 17:59
by wallyuwl
Foosball wrote:
19 Dec 2022 17:47
Another player that the Packers have picked where they had previously worked together. In Watkins case it was LaFleur when he was with the Rams in 2017.

Not saying that’s necessarily a bad thing because at least you know the person you’re getting. Just saying familiarity shouldn’t trump talent.
LaCoach prioritizes who he is friends with over talent or competency. That should be clear by now.

Re: Sammy Watkins- He Gone!

Posted: 19 Dec 2022 18:05
by Scott4Pack
FAct is that Sammy doesn’t bring anything to the table that should put him ahead of Toure in the depth chart. It just makes sense to amicably let him go.

Re: Sammy Watkins- He Gone!

Posted: 19 Dec 2022 18:58
by Yoop
wallyuwl wrote:
19 Dec 2022 17:59
Foosball wrote:
19 Dec 2022 17:47
Another player that the Packers have picked where they had previously worked together. In Watkins case it was LaFleur when he was with the Rams in 2017.

Not saying that’s necessarily a bad thing because at least you know the person you’re getting. Just saying familiarity shouldn’t trump talent.
LaCoach prioritizes who he is friends with over talent or competency. That should be clear by now.
who doesn't, and Lafluers first choice for DC was Leonard, just like with Rodgers people take cheap shots at anyone and have no foundation for there opinions.

so much crap being aimed at Lafluer now.

Re: Sammy Watkins- He Gone!

Posted: 19 Dec 2022 20:42
by RingoCStarrQB
Yoop wrote:
19 Dec 2022 18:58
wallyuwl wrote:
19 Dec 2022 17:59
Foosball wrote:
19 Dec 2022 17:47
Another player that the Packers have picked where they had previously worked together. In Watkins case it was LaFleur when he was with the Rams in 2017.

Not saying that’s necessarily a bad thing because at least you know the person you’re getting. Just saying familiarity shouldn’t trump talent.
LaCoach prioritizes who he is friends with over talent or competency. That should be clear by now.
who doesn't, and Lafluers first choice for DC was Leonard, just like with Rodgers people take cheap shots at anyone and have no foundation for there opinions.

so much crap being aimed at Lafluer now.
LaCoach's 5 and 8 record is bringin' the criticism. It is what it is.

Re: Sammy Watkins- He Gone!

Posted: 19 Dec 2022 20:44
by Drj820
Yoop wrote:
19 Dec 2022 18:58
wallyuwl wrote:
19 Dec 2022 17:59
Foosball wrote:
19 Dec 2022 17:47
Another player that the Packers have picked where they had previously worked together. In Watkins case it was LaFleur when he was with the Rams in 2017.

Not saying that’s necessarily a bad thing because at least you know the person you’re getting. Just saying familiarity shouldn’t trump talent.
LaCoach prioritizes who he is friends with over talent or competency. That should be clear by now.
who doesn't, and Lafluers first choice for DC was Leonard, just like with Rodgers people take cheap shots at anyone and have no foundation for there opinions.

so much crap being aimed at Lafluer now.
Why do you act like being the defensive coordinator of the Green Bay packers is an undesirable job and because Lafleurs top candidate already had a job, that Lafleur just HAD to settle for little Barry?

I still wish he hired wade Phillips

Re: Sammy Watkins- He Gone!

Posted: 19 Dec 2022 21:04
by Labrev
Leonhard was not the only quality candidate available. MLF also interviewed Ejiro Evero, who has done a phenomenal job coaching Denver's defense.

MLF chose Barry, D-Coord of the 0-16 Lions, over that guy.

:|

Re: Sammy Watkins- He Gone!

Posted: 20 Dec 2022 01:57
by Tooothsome Jeb
Yoop wrote:
19 Dec 2022 14:12
Tooothsome Jeb wrote:
19 Dec 2022 13:17
Captain_Ben wrote:
19 Dec 2022 12:55


What would be so great about that? :?

And where is his home, really? He's played for so many different teams.
i•ron•y
a state of affairs or an event that seems deliberately contrary to what one expects and is often amusing as a result.
and here we have our Anti-Packer fan, i-ron-y is you only come around to root for our opponents :rams:
You need to wake up later or take a humor suppository, yoop. One or the other. :box: :beer2:

Re: Sammy Watkins- He Gone!

Posted: 20 Dec 2022 02:03
by Tooothsome Jeb
so much crap being aimed at Lafluer now.
And try to spell our coach's name correctly, along with the other 40% of the words you choose. And your syntax is abhorrent.

Re: Sammy Watkins- He Gone!

Posted: 20 Dec 2022 15:57
by APB
Tooothsome Jeb wrote:
20 Dec 2022 02:03
so much crap being aimed at Lafluer now.
And try to spell our coach's name correctly, along with the other 40% of the words you choose. And your syntax is abhorrent.
Syntax?

Yoop’s gonna think the govt is taxing his weed now…

Re: Sammy Watkins- He Gone!

Posted: 20 Dec 2022 16:11
by Labrev
Ravens have claimed him, according to Teen Vogue, which I don't read.

(In all seriousness the Ravens did claim him per a headline I just saw).

Re: Sammy Watkins- He Gone!

Posted: 21 Dec 2022 00:47
by Tooothsome Jeb
Not many bums outside of this guy, Matt Flynn and Sam Bradford have extorted more money over time plugged into the production > paycheck equation. He has no respect around the league and was playing like a broken down 37 year-old receiver by age 25. And no disrespect to Terrell Owens, Jerry Rice, Isaac Bruce or James Lofton with that swipe.

Re: Sammy Watkins- He Gone!

Posted: 21 Dec 2022 09:35
by Pugger
Tooothsome Jeb wrote:
21 Dec 2022 00:47
Not many bums outside of this guy, Matt Flynn and Sam Bradford have extorted more money over time plugged into the production > paycheck equation. He has no respect around the league and was playing like a broken down 37 year-old receiver by age 25. And no disrespect to Terrell Owens, Jerry Rice, Isaac Bruce or James Lofton with that swipe.
Bum? That is rather harsh. Injuries have robbed him of his best asset = speed. From all accounts he was a good guy in the locker room and a willing blocker. I hope he has success in Baltimore.

Re: Sammy Watkins- He Gone!

Posted: 21 Dec 2022 10:07
by Yoop
Pugger wrote:
21 Dec 2022 09:35
Tooothsome Jeb wrote:
21 Dec 2022 00:47
Not many bums outside of this guy, Matt Flynn and Sam Bradford have extorted more money over time plugged into the production > paycheck equation. He has no respect around the league and was playing like a broken down 37 year-old receiver by age 25. And no disrespect to Terrell Owens, Jerry Rice, Isaac Bruce or James Lofton with that swipe.
Bum? That is rather harsh. Injuries have robbed him of his best asset = speed. From all accounts he was a good guy in the locker room and a willing blocker. I hope he has success in Baltimore.
everyone that under performs his contract is a Bum, according to him

Re: Sammy Watkins- He Gone!

Posted: 21 Dec 2022 12:51
by BSA
RingoCStarrQB wrote:
19 Dec 2022 20:42

LaCoach's 5 and 8 record is bringin' the criticism. It is what it is.
I think I've decoded your super-secret 3 step process:

Step 1) Throw out the 39-10 record, those games never happened
Step 2) Focus massively on the 6-8 record
Step 3) kvetch about the coach with impunity

Matt La Fleur, HC for the Mighty Green Bay Packers is currently 45-18, netting a .714 winning percentage.
That's Top 5 all time - and while that % won't continue, I think he's earned a bit of slack. Young HCs all need to go through a period of maturation and learning, including some painful lessons.

But to deliver those results while you are learning on the job is absolutely spectacular. For reference: Holmgren was 27- 21 his 1st 3 years.
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Re: Sammy Watkins- He Gone!

Posted: 21 Dec 2022 13:24
by Scott4Pack
Ravens picked up Sammy.

Re: Sammy Watkins- He Gone!

Posted: 21 Dec 2022 13:30
by BF004
BSA wrote:
21 Dec 2022 12:51
RingoCStarrQB wrote:
19 Dec 2022 20:42

LaCoach's 5 and 8 record is bringin' the criticism. It is what it is.
I think I've decoded your super-secret 3 step process:

Step 1) Throw out the 39-10 record, those games never happened
Step 2) Focus massively on the 6-8 record
Step 3) kvetch about the coach with impunity

Matt La Fleur, HC for the Mighty Green Bay Packers is currently 45-18, netting a .714 winning percentage.
That's Top 5 all time - and while that % won't continue, I think he's earned a bit of slack. Young HCs all need to go through a period of maturation and learning, including some painful lessons.

But to deliver those results while you are learning on the job is absolutely spectacular. For reference: Holmgren was 27- 21 his 1st 3 years.
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8-0 against the bears. That alone deserving of signing an extension.

Re: Sammy Watkins- He Gone!

Posted: 21 Dec 2022 15:24
by Yoop
BSA wrote:
21 Dec 2022 12:51
RingoCStarrQB wrote:
19 Dec 2022 20:42

LaCoach's 5 and 8 record is bringin' the criticism. It is what it is.
I think I've decoded your super-secret 3 step process:

Step 1) Throw out the 39-10 record, those games never happened
Step 2) Focus massively on the 6-8 record
Step 3) kvetch about the coach with impunity

Matt La Fleur, HC for the Mighty Green Bay Packers is currently 45-18, netting a .714 winning percentage.
That's Top 5 all time - and while that % won't continue, I think he's earned a bit of slack. Young HCs all need to go through a period of maturation and learning, including some painful lessons.

But to deliver those results while you are learning on the job is absolutely spectacular. For reference: Holmgren was 27- 21 his 1st 3 years.
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Ya, but, well you know, Matt's record is a result of the magnificent AR, except for this season, now they both suck :lol:

Re: Sammy Watkins- He Gone!

Posted: 22 Dec 2022 00:49
by Tooothsome Jeb
BSA wrote:
21 Dec 2022 12:51
But to deliver those results while you are learning on the job is absolutely spectacular. For reference: Holmgren was 27- 21 his first three years.
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Different era, different rules, different everything. Holmgren and Wolf showed up in a very competitive NFC (and 5-team division) with the mission to rebuild a 1991 club that just posted a 4-12 record in a then "outpost" of the NFL with no quarterback and free agency was still a work in progress -no promises - in '93. I won't rehash everything they did...but by Sept. '95 those guys and those teams authored a 25 game home win streak that lasted exactly three years. You came to Lambeau, you lost. It was a top-down design to 1) get the players to make it possible and 2) make gameday highly unpleasant for visiting teams.

LaFleur and Gute walked into The House That Ron/Mike/Brett Built and can't get it done. Big games, bigger losses. Their present positions started on third base, not the on-deck circle of the aforementioned regime. They took utter scraps and a laughingstock and turned it into a championship powerhouse that lasted six strong years and left pillars for future success. Now anyone...the Zach Wilson Jets...and I mean, anyone, can waltz into 1265 and hang an L on us.

With the annual draft misfires, overpaying average/outdated players, misjudging roster talent, horrible corporate practices, a rubber-spined GM, etc, this team is in reverse and the momentum is going to be unrecoverable for the foreseeable future.

yoop, the floor is yours, Sir....