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Re: Micah Hyde

Posted: 19 May 2023 11:03
by Pckfn23
We are back to the original white knight!

Re: Micah Hyde

Posted: 19 May 2023 11:39
by NCF
Yoop wrote:
19 May 2023 09:23
Hyde and Hayward rotated at Nickel ( Star) after Haywards injured season, Hyde played on mostly run downs and Hayward on pass plays, and neither could win a spot outright at either corner or safety, that was my impression, what they did after leaving us was either a better scheme fit or renewed dedication on there part, which is often the case when players go to new team

Blaming a coach like Capers, or blaming any coach because a player does better somewhere else is valid in some instances, but the biggest reason imo is the rededication from the players themselves
So you don't think if Capers would have stuck with Hayward at Nickel and played Hyde at Safety that it wouldn't have helped this "lack of talent"? I think most people think that was the answer. ILB, obviously, another conversation. But in the secondary, for that stretch, it seems like the answer was right there and the coaching staff never found it.

Re: Micah Hyde

Posted: 19 May 2023 12:27
by Yoop
NCF wrote:
19 May 2023 11:39
Yoop wrote:
19 May 2023 09:23
Hyde and Hayward rotated at Nickel ( Star) after Haywards injured season, Hyde played on mostly run downs and Hayward on pass plays, and neither could win a spot outright at either corner or safety, that was my impression, what they did after leaving us was either a better scheme fit or renewed dedication on there part, which is often the case when players go to new team

Blaming a coach like Capers, or blaming any coach because a player does better somewhere else is valid in some instances, but the biggest reason imo is the rededication from the players themselves
So you don't think if Capers would have stuck with Hayward at Nickel and played Hyde at Safety that it wouldn't have helped this "lack of talent"? I think most people think that was the answer. ILB, obviously, another conversation. But in the secondary, for that stretch, it seems like the answer was right there and the coaching staff never found it.
no I don't, wasn't Hyde at safety when we drafted Dix, and Dix became the starter in what the 5th or 6th game, sure some of that could be draft status, but didn't Dix also go to the PB a year or so later, Dix imo was better then people here gave him credit for, they didn't like the pick and that settled it for them, same with Savage, once your down on a pick then that player has to over whelm them to change there minds, Savage was a top 5 or 6 safety, in fact led all safety's the last half of 2020.

imho scheme fit is very important for DB's, and all players fit one scheme better then another, and a cord can't accommodate every player, thats also as I said a main reason players like Hyde and Hayward excel elsewhere, and guys like Douglas or Amos come here and do well, Woody even mentioned that a few times as well as other players we brought here.

I never could figure out what happened with Hayward, he really was never the same post injury as he had been as a rookie prior, I expect rotating in Hyde had to do with physicality against the run, who knows.

again never meant to offend anyone the other day, I simply made a boisterous opiniated comment, :hide:

Re: Micah Hyde

Posted: 19 May 2023 12:34
by Yoop
Pckfn23 wrote:
19 May 2023 11:03
We are back to the original white knight!
If ya don't like the comment move on, no one needs your smart alack response, least wise me, stalking my post and making flippant remarks serves no one