Packers Huddle

paco wrote: ↑

25 Oct 2023 22:22

Hoping to see improvement.

That would require a new QB, new DC, new HC, and possibly new GM and President. So we'll be waiting a while.

I am getting more and more confident by the day.

Packers fans are in the dumps. It's go time.

wallyuwl wrote: ↑

26 Oct 2023 08:57

paco wrote: ↑

25 Oct 2023 22:22

Hoping to see improvement.

That would require a new QB, new DC, new HC, and possibly new GM and President. So we'll be waiting a while.

Nah, QB might still be fine once we get all that other stuff, plus a capable O-line and WR's and TE's that know the right direction to run.

Some of you wouldn't have made it through the 70's as Packer fans.

Some of my notes about the Vikings.

- Vikings have one of the most effective and efficient passing offenses in the league. The are tied with the Dolphins for the most TD passes in the air (16), 2nd in passing yards, 3rd in passer rating. They have thrown 5 int's.

- Their rush offense is &%$@. They are subpar in terms of yardage and YPC, and they haven't even scored a rushing TD yet this year.

- Defensively they look like middle of the pack, at best. Similarly to Denver, they give up a high % of completions (74.6%). In fact, Denver is the only team worse than MIN in this category. Rush defense has not been special.

Jaire's health is going to be important. We need turnovers. The way I see it, if our run defense is ever going to step up, it has to be in this game.

Raptorman wrote: ↑

26 Oct 2023 09:41

Some of you wouldn't have made it through the 70's as Packer fans.

I would agree this after seeing the pessimistic comments by some here.

wallyuwl wrote: ↑

26 Oct 2023 08:57

paco wrote: ↑

25 Oct 2023 22:22

Hoping to see improvement.

That would require a new QB, new DC, new HC, and possibly new GM and President. So we'll be waiting a while.

always the negative Nancy, it's a gray world, often one bad apple ruins the bushel, same with football, one problem can create other problems and so on till the whole show looks worse then it actually is.

williewasgreat wrote: ↑

26 Oct 2023 09:53

Raptorman wrote: ↑

26 Oct 2023 09:41

Some of you wouldn't have made it through the 70's as Packer fans.

I would agree this after seeing the pessimistic comments by some here.

yep, if ya focus to much on the bad, you'll fail to recognize the good, or realize that injury has been the root of our problems from game two on.

even with lack of receiver experience, better blocking and being able to run would help over come that.

Papa John wrote: ↑

26 Oct 2023 09:51

- Their rush offense is &%$@. They are subpar in terms of yardage and YPC, and they haven't even scored a rushing TD yet this year.

So you're saying against our rush defense I should still expect 25 carries for 160 yards.

go pak go wrote: ↑

26 Oct 2023 10:22

Papa John wrote: ↑

26 Oct 2023 09:51

- Their rush offense is &%$@. They are subpar in terms of yardage and YPC, and they haven't even scored a rushing TD yet this year.

So you're saying against our rush defense I should still expect 25 carries for 160 yards.

If Mattison starts, he probably will. You shouldn't worry about the Vikings rushing game. If Akers or Chandler get some snaps, it could be a problem.

Raptorman wrote: ↑

26 Oct 2023 15:16

go pak go wrote: ↑

26 Oct 2023 10:22

Papa John wrote: ↑

26 Oct 2023 09:51

- Their rush offense is &%$@. They are subpar in terms of yardage and YPC, and they haven't even scored a rushing TD yet this year.

So you're saying against our rush defense I should still expect 25 carries for 160 yards.

If Mattison starts, he probably will. You shouldn't worry about the Vikings rushing game. If Akers or Chandler get some snaps, it could be a problem.

I'm always worried about the rush against us

Raptorman wrote: ↑

26 Oct 2023 09:41

Some of you wouldn't have made it through the 70's as Packer fans.

The 70s and the 80s required amazingly amounts of medication and stamina. I still think Eddie Lee Ivery and Mark Lee were great Packers. The revolving doors of QBs were fruitless.

RingoCStarrQB wrote: ↑

26 Oct 2023 22:02

Raptorman wrote: ↑

26 Oct 2023 09:41

Some of you wouldn't have made it through the 70's as Packer fans.

The 70s and the 80s required amazingly amounts of medication and stamina. I still think Eddie Lee Ivery and Mark Lee were great Packers. The revolving doors of QBs were fruitless.

I am old enough to remember. Believe me. The 80's were a fairly horrific decade also. Although, I do remember Eddie Lee Ivory and Gerry Ellis both rushing for over a 100 yards in a win against the Vikings in the early to mid 80's. I don't remember where it was played but it's a good memory.
I'm not betting on Jones and Dillon doing anything like that.

MY_TAKE wrote: ↑

27 Oct 2023 02:26

RingoCStarrQB wrote: ↑

26 Oct 2023 22:02

Raptorman wrote: ↑

26 Oct 2023 09:41

Some of you wouldn't have made it through the 70's as Packer fans.

The 70s and the 80s required amazingly amounts of medication and stamina. I still think Eddie Lee Ivery and Mark Lee were great Packers. The revolving doors of QBs were fruitless.

I am old enough to remember. Believe me. The 80's were a fairly horrific decade also. Although, I do remember Eddie Lee Ivory and Gerry Ellis both rushing for over a 100 yards in a win against the Vikings in the early to mid 80's. I don't remember where it was played but it's a good memory.
I'm not betting on Jones and Dillon doing anything like that.

It was in 1980 at the Met in Bloomington, Minnesota. Here's a write-up: https://www.upi.com/Archives/1980/11/24 ... 343890000/

RingoCStarrQB wrote: ↑

27 Oct 2023 07:13

MY_TAKE wrote: ↑

27 Oct 2023 02:26

RingoCStarrQB wrote: ↑

26 Oct 2023 22:02

The 70s and the 80s required amazingly amounts of medication and stamina. I still think Eddie Lee Ivery and Mark Lee were great Packers. The revolving doors of QBs were fruitless.

I am old enough to remember. Believe me. The 80's were a fairly horrific decade also. Although, I do remember Eddie Lee Ivory and Gerry Ellis both rushing for over a 100 yards in a win against the Vikings in the early to mid 80's. I don't remember where it was played but it's a good memory.
I'm not betting on Jones and Dillon doing anything like that.

It was in 1980 at the Met in Bloomington, Minnesota. Here's a write-up: https://www.upi.com/Archives/1980/11/24 ... 343890000/

but it would have been OK in Timbuktu, too. I think that's south of Milwaukee.

haha, Timbuktu, ya Mali is surely south of Milwaukee, love how Larry expresses himself

was looking back to see if we've had any other duel 100 yard RB's in a single game in history, alas I'am so inept at searching this stuff I finally gave up, maybe Ellis and Ivory are the only two.

williewasgreat wrote: ↑

26 Oct 2023 09:53

Raptorman wrote: ↑

26 Oct 2023 09:41

Some of you wouldn't have made it through the 70's as Packer fans.

I would agree this after seeing the pessimistic comments by some here.

It was a lot tougher to comment back then, but I'm sure those of us alive at the time felt pretty negative. However, we held on, moaning all the way.

RingoCStarrQB wrote: ↑

27 Oct 2023 07:13

MY_TAKE wrote: ↑

27 Oct 2023 02:26

RingoCStarrQB wrote: ↑

26 Oct 2023 22:02

The 70s and the 80s required amazingly amounts of medication and stamina. I still think Eddie Lee Ivery and Mark Lee were great Packers. The revolving doors of QBs were fruitless.

I am old enough to remember. Believe me. The 80's were a fairly horrific decade also. Although, I do remember Eddie Lee Ivory and Gerry Ellis both rushing for over a 100 yards in a win against the Vikings in the early to mid 80's. I don't remember where it was played but it's a good memory.
I'm not betting on Jones and Dillon doing anything like that.

It was in 1980 at the Met in Bloomington, Minnesota. Here's a write-up: https://www.upi.com/Archives/1980/11/24 ... 343890000/

I was off a little bit on the year. HAHA. I was 11 years old but a huge Packer fan and my mother bought me a subscription to "The Packer Report" . That picture was on the front of it for that week. It only came weekly durinng the season then it was like maybe every month or something like that in the off season. Thank you for finding this.
It was a Ray Nitschke Publication. AHHHH the good old days

My sights this week are on the D-line. KC usually has a field day against the Vikings with pressure up the middle. Exactly what we need to do to slow Cousins down. Hoping Wyatt is healthy and maybe we get some real push up the middle.

Side note: Stenovich said yesterday that Myers is playing the best football of his career this year. What is his PFF ranking and why doesn't it seem that way to the naked eye? His other comments also led me to believe there may be a change on the OL this week. Maybe Walker out for Yosh. Sure hope it's not Newman for Runyan!

Half Empty wrote: ↑

27 Oct 2023 08:49

williewasgreat wrote: ↑

26 Oct 2023 09:53

Raptorman wrote: ↑

26 Oct 2023 09:41

Some of you wouldn't have made it through the 70's as Packer fans.

I would agree this after seeing the pessimistic comments by some here.

It was a lot tougher to comment back then, but I'm sure those of us alive at the time felt pretty negative. However, we held on, moaning all the way.

Yes, you did. I remember all the bitching from Packer fans in school. My only problem is that my team was never able to get over that damn hump at the end of the year. And I actually think that was worse than what Packer fans had to endure. It still chaps my A**

packman114 wrote: ↑

27 Oct 2023 09:02

My sights this week are on the D-line. KC usually has a field day against the Vikings with pressure up the middle. Exactly what we need to do to slow Cousins down. Hoping Wyatt is healthy and maybe we get some real push up the middle.

Side note: Stenovich said yesterday that Myers is playing the best football of his career this year. What is his PFF ranking and why doesn't it seem that way to the naked eye? His other comments also led me to believe there may be a change on the OL this week. Maybe Walker out for Yosh. Sure hope it's not Newman for Runyan!

common for coaches to stick up for a player, I found this


Given the Packers used a second-round pick on Myers in the 2021 draft, one pick before the Chiefs selected now-All-Pro center Creed Humphrey, the Packers were looking for Myers to take a big step forward this season.

However, that has not been realized. Myers is an intelligent player, but his skill development has not progressed at the same pace.

While he didn't allow a pressure in Week 7 against Denver and has been quite solid in that department overall, his run-blocking remains the most significant issue to correct.

Per Pro Football Focus, Myers' 47.5 run-blocking grade drops his overall grade to a below-average 56.3. Last season, he only posted a 53.5 run-blocking grade, and the continued regression has certainly shown up on tape.

https://lombardiave.com/posts/packers-b ... ts-week-8-