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Re: Week 15 Post-Game: Bucs-34 Packers-20
Posted: 17 Dec 2023 15:28
by BF004
lupedafiasco wrote: ↑17 Dec 2023 15:20
go pak go wrote: ↑17 Dec 2023 15:15
lupedafiasco wrote: ↑17 Dec 2023 15:09
Bad performance. Playoffs are out of the question. This team is gonna get eliminated by the Bears of the Panthers don’t do it next week or the Vikings after that.
A lot of words to simply say one more loss knocks us out of the playoffs
No I was saying this team WILL lose one more game. Not a matter of if or who.
Not a very bold statement.
When is any team expected to win 3 games in a row?
Name one of 32 teams and state your wager. I’ll call it. They win 3 times, I’ll pay you, they lose any game, you pay me.
Re: Week 15 Post-Game: Bucs-34 Packers-20
Posted: 17 Dec 2023 15:29
by MY_TAKE
Also as crappy as our defense played they gifted Love and the offense a touchdown with that turnover deep in their own territory. Without that how many points did Love and the offense put up? They FRICKEN have to be better. Sorry but there are Love apologists out there.
Re: Week 15 Post-Game: Bucs-34 Packers-20
Posted: 17 Dec 2023 15:30
by Pugger
MY_TAKE wrote: ↑17 Dec 2023 15:22
wallyuwl wrote: ↑17 Dec 2023 15:00
I am back to just tank for the draft pick. Need a LT. The only difference is that I think Love can be at least an average starter and probably better. He has come a long way. Needs to be more consistent with footwork and deep accuracy. Also learn better the type of throw (bullet, lofty, etc) needed in certain situations. But the more he plays the better he gets. Definitely not a $40 million guy, though, not yet.
Many of the same thoughts I have had. To me, the worst defensive performance of the year. It was kind of like first half of the first lions game. Defense not able to make the play to get off the field.
Not giving up on Love or anything but he can definitely improve. Here is take I have about him and yes, O line is part of the problem, but not completely.
He has a tendency to start drifting straight back in the pocket with slower developing plays/ maybe deeper routes, which leads to weak, craps throws off balance, off back foot. Sometimes he has gotten away with it but, to me, its going to be a big problem until he starts trying to stand his ground and step up in pocket to throw, or, sneak through pressure to run or drift more lateral. Like I said, and I understand that O line needs to be better, but its something for him to work on.
But how many times does Love have a nice scoring drive to get close or take the lead and our soft D allows our opponent to march right down the field on a long time consuming drive?
Re: Week 15 Post-Game: Bucs-34 Packers-20
Posted: 17 Dec 2023 15:31
by Pckfn23
MY_TAKE wrote: ↑17 Dec 2023 15:29
Also as crappy as our defense played they gifted Love and the offense a touchdown with that turnover deep in their own territory. Without that how many points did Love and the offense put up? They FRICKEN have to be better. Sorry but there are Love apologists out there.
Absolutely the offense needs to be better. Absolutely Jordan Love needs to continue to improve.
Re: Week 15 Post-Game: Bucs-34 Packers-20
Posted: 17 Dec 2023 15:35
by MY_TAKE
Pugger wrote: ↑17 Dec 2023 15:30
But how many times does Love have a nice scoring drive to get close or take the lead and our soft D allows our opponent to march right down the field on a long time consuming drive?
The defense does this way too much. Yes. Defense seemingly underperforms all too often considering how much draft capital has been used on it. Your not wrong pugger
Re: Week 15 Post-Game: Bucs-34 Packers-20
Posted: 17 Dec 2023 15:37
by Pugger
MY_TAKE wrote: ↑17 Dec 2023 15:29
Also as crappy as our defense played they gifted Love and the offense a touchdown with that turnover deep in their own territory. Without that how many points did Love and the offense put up? They FRICKEN have to be better. Sorry but there are Love apologists out there.
We should have kicked the FG there instead of going for it. MLF got lucky we got a turnover and scored a TD instead. What was the difference in time of possession?
Re: Week 15 Post-Game: Bucs-34 Packers-20
Posted: 17 Dec 2023 15:40
by Pugger
How many snaps did Aaron Jones play today?
Re: Week 15 Post-Game: Bucs-34 Packers-20
Posted: 17 Dec 2023 15:41
by Pckfn23
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Re: Week 15 Post-Game: Bucs-34 Packers-20
Posted: 17 Dec 2023 15:42
by YoHoChecko
Panthers won today. We could throw the game against them and possibly cost the Bears the top pick depending on draft tie breakers
Re: Week 15 Post-Game: Bucs-34 Packers-20
Posted: 17 Dec 2023 15:44
by Pckfn23
Only other opposing player to post a perfect rating in Lambeau was Randall Cunningham in 1998.
Re: Week 15 Post-Game: Bucs-34 Packers-20
Posted: 17 Dec 2023 15:45
by MY_TAKE
I am starting to think that a healthy Christian Watson is the most important player on the packer offense. I think I was mostly wrong about him early in the year.
Re: Week 15 Post-Game: Bucs-34 Packers-20
Posted: 17 Dec 2023 15:46
by Pugger
Pckfn23 wrote: ↑17 Dec 2023 15:41
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Oh wow. Just looking at the score and what Red Zone showed I wouldn't have guessed that.
Re: Week 15 Post-Game: Bucs-34 Packers-20
Posted: 17 Dec 2023 15:47
by Pugger
MY_TAKE wrote: ↑17 Dec 2023 15:45
I am starting to think that a healthy Christian Watson is the most important player on the packer offense. I think I was mostly wrong about him early in the year.
Unfortunately he can't stay on the field.
Re: Week 15 Post-Game: Bucs-34 Packers-20
Posted: 17 Dec 2023 15:51
by YoHoChecko
The Bucs has 9 possessions today.
On one, they successfully ran out the clock to end the game. So that was a successful drive for them, but let’s just not count it since the goal want to score.
The other 8 drives were
- 1 punt
- 1 fumble lost
- 2 FG
- 4 TD
6 of 8 scoring drives. Pathetic.
The chiefs game was mostly the same with fewer possessions.
The giants have at least stopped them like half the time but they had 11 possessions and missed a FG
It’s just who this defense is. While Love and the offense certainly are still a work in progress, I can’t understand any other top line complain about this team. The opposition just scores points more often than they don’t. Significantly more often.
Re: Week 15 Post-Game: Bucs-34 Packers-20
Posted: 17 Dec 2023 16:02
by BF004
Media getting after it
Re: Week 15 Post-Game: Bucs-34 Packers-20
Posted: 17 Dec 2023 16:08
by RingoCStarrQB
BF004 wrote: ↑17 Dec 2023 16:02
Media getting after it
Delay tactic. Means he's still both clueless and inept.
Re: Week 15 Post-Game: Bucs-34 Packers-20
Posted: 17 Dec 2023 16:08
by go pak go
MY_TAKE wrote: ↑17 Dec 2023 15:29
Also as crappy as our defense played they gifted Love and the offense a touchdown with that turnover deep in their own territory. Without that how many points did Love and the offense put up? They FRICKEN have to be better. Sorry but there are Love apologists out there.
Yeah we were 2 out of 5 in the RZ. Need to be better to play winning ball.
Re: Week 15 Post-Game: Bucs-34 Packers-20
Posted: 17 Dec 2023 16:09
by MY_TAKE
MY_TAKE wrote: ↑17 Dec 2023 15:45
I am starting to think that a healthy Christian Watson is the most important player on the packer offense. I think I was mostly wrong about him early in the year.
Obviously I meant other than QB with is always the most important part of an offense.
Re: Week 15 Post-Game: Bucs-34 Packers-20
Posted: 17 Dec 2023 16:15
by go pak go
Drj820 wrote: ↑17 Dec 2023 15:25
I knew baker was gonna nickel and dime the heck out of our zone. The way to stop baker is to blitz the heck out of him. Rattle the little guy and he gets irratic.
Pretty much the opposite of out play style
I would take nickle and diming.
Today they were quartering and half dollaring.
Their yards per play was very high. The only time they got 5 yard plays was when it was 3rd and 3.
But if it's 2nd and 29? No problem...they will just get 25 freaking yards through our zone.
Re: Week 15 Post-Game: Bucs-34 Packers-20
Posted: 17 Dec 2023 16:15
by Pugger
RingoCStarrQB wrote: ↑17 Dec 2023 16:08
BF004 wrote: ↑17 Dec 2023 16:02
Media getting after it
Delay tactic. Means he's still both clueless and inept.
I don't have a problem with those answers. What good is throwing Barry under the bus to the media? Let's wait and see what Matt DOES and not what he says.